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Guys, I don't get it, for me it's D too. IF a m1=m2, the lines are parallel so NEVER INTERSECT, only overlap?? Or do I get the wording wrong??
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Technically intersect means share one or more points in common. So, if two lines overlap they do intersect. Thus from (1) if line P contains line segment QR then they intersect but if line P is parallel to line segment QR, then they do not intersect, which means that the first statement is not sufficient.


Bunuel , having what you mentioned above ,Can we say that line laying on x axis , intersects with x axis ??
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Technically intersect means share one or more points in common. So, if two lines overlap they do intersect. Thus from (1) if line P contains line segment QR then they intersect but if line P is parallel to line segment QR, then they do not intersect, which means that the first statement is not sufficient.


Bunuel , having what you mentioned above ,Can we say that line laying on x axis , intersects with x axis ??


Technically, yes.
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Hi All,

This is a great 'concept' question; if you recognize the concepts involved, then you don't actually have to do any math to get to the correct answer.

We're asked if a line P intersects with the line segment QR. This is a YES/NO question.

1) The slope of line P is -1.

This Fact tells us the slops of line P, but it doesn't tell us exactly where line P is located. Thus, it might intersect the line segment or not.
Fact 1 is INSUFFICIENT

(2) The equation of line P is y = -x + 4.

This Fact gives us the exact equation for line P, so we COULD graph it... and once we did, we'd know definitively whether line P intersected with the line segment or not (and there would be just one answer to the given question).
Fact 2 is SUFFICIENT

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Hi All,

This is a great 'concept' question; if you recognize the concepts involved, then you don't actually have to do any math to get to the correct answer.

We're asked if a line P intersects with the line segment QR. This is a YES/NO question.

1) The slope of line P is -1.

This Fact tells us the slops of line P, but it doesn't tell us exactly where line P is located. Thus, it might intersect the line segment or not.
Fact 1 is INSUFFICIENT

(2) The equation of line P is y = -x + 4.

This Fact gives us the exact equation for line P, so we COULD graph it... and once we did, we'd know definitively whether line P intersected with the line segment or not (and there would be just one answer to the given question).
Fact 2 is SUFFICIENT

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if PQ segment and the line have same slope, then they are parallel to each other.so how can they ever intersect?
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Hi JAIN09,

From your message, I assume that you're questioning the definition of "intersect." A typical example would be two lines that are perpendicular to each other; they WILL intersect at exactly ONE point. In this question though, with the line segment that's in the drawing - and the equation that we're given in Fact 2 - there are actually MULTIPLE points of intersection since the line falls exactly "on top" of the line segment. In that way, the two lines DO intersect (just not in the way that you're used to thinking about the concept). This is ultimately why Fact 2 is sufficient (the line and the line segment DO share several common intersect points).

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Does line P (not pictured) intersect line segment QR in the coordinate plane shown above?

(1) The slope of line P is –1.

(2) The equation of line P is y = –x + 4.

Me personally thinks the answer should be D, but OA differs, as usual. Can someone help please?


Hallo,

To me, the answer is D. But unfortunately I did not understand why the answer is B, though I have read the above explanations.
Would anyone draw graph to make clear understanding why A is not correct?
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Hi Rashed12,

I think that you can properly prove that Fact 1 is insufficient if you are comfortable drawing a couple working through a few steps:

1) Draw a graph and line segment QR (the pictured segment).
2) Draw ANY line with a slope of -1. You can put that line wherever you want. Does your line cross the given line segment? Most lines you could create would not (and it's likely that the first line you would draw would not intersect the segment).
3) Can you draw a different line (also with a slope of -1) that would intersect line segment QR? Where would you have to put it?

Thus, the line described in Fact 1 might intersect line segment QR, but it might not.
Fact 1 is INSUFFICIENT

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unceldolan wrote:
Guys, I don't get it, for me it's D too. IF a m1=m2, the lines are parallel so NEVER INTERSECT, only overlap?? Or do I get the wording wrong??


Technically intersect means share one or more points in common. So, if two lines overlap they do intersect. Thus from (1) if line P contains line segment QR then they intersect but if line P is parallel to line segment QR, then they do not intersect, which means that the first statement is not sufficient.

Having said that, I must add that GMAT would never test you on such technicalities, so the question is poor and one can ignore it and move on.

Hope it help.s


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Hi Bunuel please advise on my approach only case where two lines will not intersect is if they are parallel i.e when they have same slope slope of QR = 3-2/1-2= -1

Y= -x+4 here slope m=-1 hence they will not intersect

And statement b states that slope of s is -1 then who option d is not correct

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Bunuel wrote:
unceldolan wrote:
Guys, I don't get it, for me it's D too. IF a m1=m2, the lines are parallel so NEVER INTERSECT, only overlap?? Or do I get the wording wrong??


Technically intersect means share one or more points in common. So, if two lines overlap they do intersect. Thus from (1) if line P contains line segment QR then they intersect but if line P is parallel to line segment QR, then they do not intersect, which means that the first statement is not sufficient.

Having said that, I must add that GMAT would never test you on such technicalities, so the question is poor and one can ignore it and move on.

Hope it help.s


Posted from my mobile device[/size

Hi Bunuel please advise on my approach only case where two lines will not intersect is if they are parallel i.e when they have same slope slope of QR = 3-2/1-2= -1

Y= -x+4 here slope m=-1 hence they will not intersect

And statement b states that slope of s is -1 then who option d is not correct

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Hi puneetfitness,

We're asked if a line P intersects with the line segment QR (which appears at a specific point on the graph and has a slope of -1). This is a YES/NO question.

1) The slope of line P is -1.

This Fact tells us the slops of line P, but it doesn't tell us exactly where line P is located. Thus, it might intersect the line segment (by lying right "on top" of segment QR) or not.
Fact 1 is INSUFFICIENT

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