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Disclaimer: I am not a GMAT expert. This is my opinion on the passage.
I initially got questions 1 and 4-6 wrong and wanted to understand my mistakes, so I decided to write this for training purposes.

If you like my explanations give some kudus! ?


First, lets understand the passage:
P1: Jon Clark’s study gives solid contribution to a debate between technological determinism and social constructivism.
P2: Clark: tech have decisive influence on job skills and work organization. Moreover, tech can be a primary determinant of social and managerial organization. This possibility is obscured by sociologics, ex. Braverman’s analysis (tech inf. is subordinate to humans).
P3: why constructivism became mainstream - by misrepresenting technological determinism (the other view). They want deterministics to believe that tech directly influencing skills and work organization. [for me, this part was the hardest to understand. I believe the author tries to tell us that constructivisms want deterministic to believe the extreme]
P4: Clark refutes the extremes of constructivists [yes!]. tech = relationship between social and technical. Not only cold technical, but integrated. empirical – his ex. shows significant alters. Some changes att. to humans negotiations and some related to tech capabilities.
Purpose of passage: show how Clark’s study contributes to a debate between technological determinism and social constructivism, and to show Clark’s opinion.

Question 1: The primary purpose of the passage is to

(A) advocate a more positive attitude toward technological change irrelevant
(B) discuss the implications for employees of the modernization of a telephone exchange not really.
(C) consider a successful challenge to the constructivist view of technological change I don’t like this answer as it states that the "challenge is successful", but after understanding the passage we can say we don’t have a better option here.
(D) challenge the position of advocates of technological determinism not really.
(E) suggest that the social causes of technological change should be studied in real situations not really.

Question 2: Which of the following statements about the modernization of the telephone exchange is supported by information in the passage?
(A) The new technology reduced the role of managers in labor negotiations. not really.
(B) The modernization was implemented without the consent of the employees directly affected by it. not really.
(C) The modernization had an impact that went significantly beyond maintenance routines. the passage clearly states: “Clark shows how a change at the telephone exchange from maintenance-intensive electromechanical switches to semielectronic switching systems altered work tasks, skills, training opportunities, administration, and organization of workers”.
(D) Some of the maintenance workers felt victimized by the new technology. not really.
(E) The modernization gave credence to the view of advocates of social constructivism. not really. We don’t have a reference to this specific event and their opinions on it.

Question 3: Which of the following most accurately describes Clark’s opinion of Braverman’s position?
(A) He respects its wide-ranging popularity. not really.
(B) He disapproves of its misplaced emphasis on the influence of managers. yes! It’s the tech and the negotiations together.
(C) He admires the consideration it gives to the attitudes of the workers affected. not really.
(D) He is concerned about its potential to impede the implementation of new technologies. not really. He doesn’t like the extremes, but he doesn’t say these extreme influence the implementation of new technologies.
(E) He is sympathetic to its concern about the impact of modern technology on workers. not really.

Question 4: The information in the passage suggests that which of the following statements from hypothetical sociological studies of change in industry most clearly exemplifies the social constructivists’ version of technological determinism?
(A) It is the available technology that determines workers’ skills, rather than workers’ skills influencing the application of technology. definitely! It’s that extreme
(B) All progress in industrial technology grows out of a continuing negotiation between technological possibility and human need. not really. That’s the social constructivism view
(C) Some organizational change is caused by people; some is caused by computer chips. not really. That’s Clark’s view
(D) Most major technological advances in industry have been generated through research and development. irrelevant and not stated in the passage
(E) Some industrial technology eliminates jobs, but educated workers can create whole new skills areas by the adaptation of the technology. not stated in the passage

Question 5: The information in the passage suggests that Clark believes that which of the following would be true if social constructivism had not gained widespread acceptance?
(A) Businesses would be more likely to modernize without considering the social consequences of their actions. not really.
(B) There would be greater understanding of the role played by technology in producing social change. we can see that constructivism is only about the role played by humans in negotiating the influence of tech. if no constructivism, we might understand the influence of the tech itself/both factors
(C) Businesses would be less likely to understand the attitudes of employees affected by modernization. not stated in the passage
(D) Modernization would have occurred at a slower rate. not stated in the passage
(E) Technology would have played a greater part in determining the role of business in society. “greater part in determining” is too radical. It might as well happen now, but constructivism just don’t understand it.

Question 6: According to the passage, constructivists employed which of the following to promote their argument?
(A) Empirical studies of business situations involving technological change not stated in the passage
(B) Citation of managers supportive of their position. not stated in the passage
(C) Construction of hypothetical situations that support their view not stated in the passage
(D) Contrasts of their view with a misstatement of an opposing view this is clearly stated in the passage: “The constructivists gain acceptance by misrepresenting technological determinism”
(E) Descriptions of the breadth of impact of technological change not stated in the passage

Question 7: The author of the passage uses the expression “are supposed to” in line 27 primarily in order to
(A) suggest that a contention made by constructivists regarding determinists is inaccurate clearly reflects the passage. They supposed to believe in inaccurate extremes
(B) define the generally accepted position of determinists regarding the implementation of technology irrelevant. This is what determinists supposed to believe
(C) engage in speculation about the motivation of determinists not stated.
(D) lend support to a comment critical of the position of determinists not stated.
(E) contrast the historical position of determinists with their position regarding the exchange modernization not stated.

Question 8: Which of the following statements about Clark’s study of the telephone exchange can be inferred from information in the passage?
(A) Clark’s reason for undertaking the study was to undermine Braverman’s analysis of the function of technology. not stated.
(B) Clark’s study suggests that the implementation of technology should be discussed in the context of conflict between labor and management. not stated.
(C) Clark examined the impact of changes in the technology of switching at the exchange in terms of overall operations and organization. this is clearly stated in the passage
(D) Clark concluded that the implementation of new switching technology was equally beneficial to management and labor. not stated.
(E) Clark’s analysis of the change in switching systems applies only narrowly to the situation at the particular exchange that he studied. not stated.



Q8 where's the option C mentioned in the paragraph please guide me with the location. Please reply ASAP @omavsp

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for Q4 how is A correct. Refer to these lines The alternative to constructivism, in other words, is to view technology as existing outside society, capable of directly influencing skills and work organization. A is actually opposite to constructivists view
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The constructivists gain acceptance by misrepresenting technological determinism: technological determinists are supposed to believe, for example, that machinery imposes appropriate forms of order on society.

I didn't understand what the above lines are saying . Is it the actual view of technological determinists or is it misinterpreted view of technological determinists (view of the constructivists)
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Dear Experts,

Could you pls summarize the passage?
I just map question and info and got correct some questions. However, I don't understand the whole passage.

I got incorrect 3 questions
The primary purpose of the passage is to

A. advocate a more positive attitude toward technological change

B. discuss the implications for employees of the modernization of a telephone exchange

C. consider a successful challenge to the constructivist view of technological change

D. challenge the position of advocates of technological determinism

E. suggest that the social causes of technological change should be studied in real situations

According to the passage, constructivists employed which of the following to promote their argument?

A. Empirical studies of business situations involving technological change

B. Citation of managers supportive of their position

C. Construction of hypothetical situations that support their view

D. Contrasts of their view with a misstatement of an opposing view

E. Descriptions of the breadth of impact of technological change

Which of the following most accurately describes Clark???s opinion of Braverman???s position?

A. He respects its wide-ranging popularity.

B. He disapproves of its misplaced emphasis on the influence of managers.

C. He admires the consideration it gives to the attitudes of the workers affected.

D. He is concerned about its potential to impede the implementation of new technologies.

E. He is sympathetic to its concern about the impact of modern technology on workers.
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The constructivists gain acceptance by misrepresenting technological determinism: technological determinists are supposed to believe, for example, that machinery imposes appropriate forms of order on society.

I didn't understand what the above lines are saying . Is it the actual view of technological determinists or is it misinterpreted view of technological determinists (view of the constructivists)

Here, the author tells us that the constructivists misrepresent the views of technological determinists. So, this sentence doesn't give us the actual viewpoint of determinists -- it gives us the distorted way in which constructivists describe the views of their opponents.

Constructivists say that determinists hold the extreme belief that "machinery imposes appropriate forms of order on society." In the last paragraph, we see Clark's response to this claim -- he doesn't actually hold that view at all.

I hope that helps!
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Jon Clark’s study of the effect of the modernization of a telephone exchange on exchange maintenance work and workers is a solid contribution to a debate that encompasses two lively issues in the history and sociology of technology: technological determinism and social constructivism.
 
Clark makes the point that the characteristics of a technology have a decisive influence on job skills and work organization. Put more strongly, technology can be a primary determinant of social and managerial organization. Clark believes this possibility has been obscured by the recent sociological fashion, exemplified by Braverman’s analysis, that emphasizes the way machinery reflects social choices. For Braverman, the shape of a technological system is subordinate to the manager’s desire to wrest control of the labor process from the workers. Technological change is construed as the outcome of negotiations among interested parties who seek to incorporate their own interests into the design and configuration of the machinery. This position represents the new mainstream called social constructivism.
 
The constructivists gain acceptance by misrepresenting technological determinism: technological determinists are supposed to believe, for example, that machinery imposes appropriate forms of order on society. The alternative to constructivism, in other words, is to view technology as existing outside society, capable of directly influencing skills and work organization.
 
Clark refutes the extremes of the constructivists by both theoretical and empirical arguments. Theoretically he defines “technology” in terms of relationships between social and technical variables. Attempts to reduce the meaning of technology to cold, hard metal are bound to fail, for machinery is just scrap unless it is organized functionally and supported by appropriate systems of operation and maintenance. At the empirical level Clark shows how a change at the telephone exchange from maintenance-intensive electromechanical switches to semielectronic switching systems altered work tasks, skills, training opportunities, administration, and organization of workers. Some changes Clark attributes to the particular way management and labor unions negotiated the introduction of the technology, whereas others are seen as arising from the capabilities and nature of the technology itself. Thus Clark helps answer the question: “When is social choice decisive and when are the concrete characteristics of technology more important?”


First I start by taking notes of the most important parts of the reading then I identify the main idea or purpose.

[*] Technological determinism(TD) - tech exists outside society influencing skills and work organization
[*] Social constructivism(SC) - tech changes are from negotiations of labor into the design and configuration of the machinery
[*] Jon Clark(JC) is pro tech determinism
[*] Braverman is pro social constructivism
[*] Telephone switchboard example of why JC believes in TC, because of the shift of "tasks, skills, training opportunities, administration, and organization of workers"
[*] Main Idea: Discuss two philosophical views of tech, conclude with JC's study that promotes TD over SC.

Question 1 wants us to find the primary passage, which we've already done in our notes.

A is incorrect based on our notes about the purpose and tone.

B uses the right word for the tone, but the purpose is wrong. There was more focus on TD and SC.

D is wrong since the last paragraph challenges SC, not TD.

E isn't mentioned, and the tone is wrong.

C is correct since the tone wanted us to discuss/consider/inquire/etc, the tone was light, and not aggressive. The purpose of the reading matches with the option, the reading did challenge SC. Correct!

Question 2 wants us to peek into the last paragraph to identify what supported the modernization of the telephone exchange.

A, and D are not mentioned.

B is wrong because it's contradicted in the reading "Some changes Clark attributes to the particular way management and labor unions negotiated the introduction of the technology".

E is wrong because Jon is using the example as an example to support for TD, not SC.

C is correct, and in the last paragraph we see "Clark shows how a change at the telephone exchange from maintenance-intensive electromechanical switches to..."

Question 3 wants us to find an opinion that Clark would claim as Braverman's position.

A, C, and E are wrong. Clark is challenging Braverman's view and doesn't appreciate, or hate. Simply challenges.

D isn't mentioned in the reading at all.

B is correct, "For Braverman, the shape of a technological system is subordinate to the manager’s desire", Braverman states clearly that he believes the manager has influence.

Question 4 wants us to find the definition of technological determinism that social constructivists provide.

A is correct and I don't need the read the other options. The phrase "machinery imposes appropriate forms of order on society" is restated in this option. The tech determines the worker's skills, instead of the worker's skills determining how to use the tech.

Question 5 wants to find the statement that Clark agrees with if Social Constructivism did not become popular. We'll refer to the notes on SC and TD before looking at the options.

A and C are incorrect since the focus is on businesses and management, which Braverman emphasized not Clark

D is never mentioned as a possibility. Wrong.

E is wrong too and has a similar problem that A and C have.

B is correct and focuses on the role of technology impacting society.

Question 6 wants us to find the tactics that constructivists employed to promote themselves.

D is identified from a quick scan, and the third paragraph focuses on what constructivists did to misidentify TD. "The constructivists gain acceptance by misrepresenting technological determinism: technological determinists are supposed to believe"

Question 7 is very similar to Question 6, Question 7 wants us to find the reason the author used "are suppose to".

A is picked because it aligns with Question 6 because the constructivists used an inaccurate statement to define TD.

Question 8 wants us to infer about Clark's study of the telephone exchange.

A is incorrect because that wasn't the intention, nor is it mentioned.

B is the opposite of what Clark state, "particular way management and labor unions negotiated".

D would have to be an assumption, but it can't be inferred since we don't know if they benefited equally.

E is wrong since there is no mention of other studies, or examples. This example is stated as being the ONLY example.

C is correct since the "switching systems altered work tasks, skills, training opportunities, administration, and organization of workers". We can infer the telephone exchange impacted operations and origination.

Originally posted by brianmontanaweb on 18 May 2022, 15:11.
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Can anyone please explain me the answer of Question 5? I feel even E plays as a good contender as the right option. Please can anyone explain? Thank you.
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Can anyone please explain me the answer of Question 5? I feel even E plays as a good contender as the right option. Please can anyone explain? Thank you.


To understand why E is wrong we can look at the definition of technological determinism "to view technology as existing outside society, capable of directly influencing skills and work organization." E uses business as a proxy to influence society, the focus should be on technology's DIRECT influence.
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Jon Clark’s study of the effect of the modernization of a telephone exchange on exchange maintenance work and workers is a solid contribution to a debate that encompasses two lively issues in the history and sociology of technology: technological determinism and social constructivism.
 
Clark makes the point that the characteristics of a technology have a decisive influence on job skills and work organization. Put more strongly, technology can be a primary determinant of social and managerial organization. Clark believes this possibility has been obscured by the recent sociological fashion, exemplified by Braverman’s analysis, that emphasizes the way machinery reflects social choices. For Braverman, the shape of a technological system is subordinate to the manager’s desire to wrest control of the labor process from the workers. Technological change is construed as the outcome of negotiations among interested parties who seek to incorporate their own interests into the design and configuration of the machinery. This position represents the new mainstream called social constructivism.
 
The constructivists gain acceptance by misrepresenting technological determinism: technological determinists are supposed to believe, for example, that machinery imposes appropriate forms of order on society. The alternative to constructivism, in other words, is to view technology as existing outside society, capable of directly influencing skills and work organization.
 
Clark refutes the extremes of the constructivists by both theoretical and empirical arguments. Theoretically he defines “technology” in terms of relationships between social and technical variables. Attempts to reduce the meaning of technology to cold, hard metal are bound to fail, for machinery is just scrap unless it is organized functionally and supported by appropriate systems of operation and maintenance. At the empirical level Clark shows how a change at the telephone exchange from maintenance-intensive electromechanical switches to semielectronic switching systems altered work tasks, skills, training opportunities, administration, and organization of workers. Some changes Clark attributes to the particular way management and labor unions negotiated the introduction of the technology, whereas others are seen as arising from the capabilities and nature of the technology itself. Thus Clark helps answer the question: “When is social choice decisive and when are the concrete characteristics of technology more important?”


Hi experts avigutman GMATNinja IanStewart

The third paragraph gave me a hard time--I cannot fully grasp the meaning in that paragraph, which provides correct answers for three questions. Although I have checked all previous posts in this thread, I still have some specific doubts. Could you share some of your thoughts when you have time? :)

My biggest doubt is: does the 3rd paragraph contain the misinterpretation only?

The constructivists gain acceptance by misrepresenting technological determinism: technological determinists are supposed to believe, for example, that machinery imposes appropriate forms of order on society. The alternative to constructivism, in other words, is to view technology as existing outside society, capable of directly influencing skills and work organization.

My understanding of the use of colon is that the colon is usually followed by an explanation of some point made prior to the colon. Hence, the two statements after the colon should both explain how the constructivists misrepresent the technology determinism. But, I feel that the first statement, colored in blue, is not part of the misinterpretation for three reasons:

a. "appropriate" is a positive word.
->If the first statement is part of the misinterpretation, it reads "Constructivists think that the determinists believe that machinery imposes appropriate forms of orders on society." It is strange that constructivists use a word so approving in their description of their competitors' belief, especially given that the author says the constructivists gain acceptance by distorting their rivals' claims.

b. the use of "alternative"
->The use of "alternative" increases the difficulty. The word "alternative," used as a noun, primarily means "another choice," as in "an alternative to coffee," but here "the alternative to constructivism" does not mean "another theory different from constructivism," does it? It seems to me that the phrasing means "another way to interpret the technology determinism for the constructivists."

c. The first statement is against the second statement.
->We are sure that the second statement, colored in orange, is part of the constructivists' misinterpretation of the technology determinism, as shown by the correct answer to the 4th question. (The official explanation also clearly says that the second statement is part of the misinterpretation.)

Quote:
4. The information in the passage suggests that which of the following statements from hypothetical sociological studies of change in industry most clearly exemplifies the social constructivists’ version of technological determinism?

(A) It is the available technology that determines workers’ skills, rather than workers’ skills influencing the application of technology. -> correct


The constructivists gain acceptance by misrepresenting technological determinism: technological determinists are supposed to believe, for example, that machinery imposes appropriate forms of order on society. The alternative to constructivism, in other words, is to view technology as existing outside society, capable of directly influencing skills and work organization.

If the two statements, colored in blue and orange, are both the constructivists' wrong interpretation of technology determinism, is not it weird that they are against each other? These constructivists say on one hand that the determinists think that the machines does something appropriate on the society, but mention on the other hand that the determinists also think that the technology exist outside society?

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Hence, I suspect that the first statement might be the author's opinion of technology determinism. The author first tells us a view the determinists really hold, and show later that the constructivists have misinterpreted that the determinists hold another view (that the technology exists outside the society.)

But I am not fully certain about my understanding, since (1) no one in this thread reads the paragraph this way yet, (2) there will be no need to use a colon. If the author were to say what the determinists really believe first, in a bid to show that the constructivists do misrepresent the idea, the author can just use the period instead of the colon.

Two more questions are related to the third paragraph, and I answered them correctly. But I still hope to confirm the meaning of the third paragraph.

Quote:
6. According to the passage, constructivists employed which of the following to promote their argument?

(D) Contrasts of their view with a misstatement of an opposing view ->correct

In fact, I am not sure from the 3rd paragraph whether the constructivists contrasts two views, but other options are less realistic.

Quote:
7. The author of the passage uses the expression “are supposed to” in line 27 primarily in order to

(A) suggest that a contention made by constructivists regarding determinists is inaccurate ->correct

I think that the "contention" in option (A) could refer to the second statement (technology exist outside the society.)

Experts how do you think about the third paragraph?
If you do think that the third paragraph contains only the misinterpretation, could you elaborate why? And does the phrasing "are supposed to" and "alternative" play a role in the meaning?

Appreciate your time!
Thank you for helping me learn. :)
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My biggest doubt is: does the 3rd paragraph contain the misinterpretation only?

The constructivists gain acceptance by misrepresenting technological determinism: technological determinists are supposed to believe, for example, that machinery imposes appropriate forms of order on society. The alternative to constructivism, in other words, is to view technology as existing outside society, capable of directly influencing skills and work organization.

Hi GraceSCKao. Excellent question. Firstly, misinterpreting and misrepresenting are two very different things, and I wonder whether your difficulty with this passage stems, at least in part, from interpreting (pun intended) the word 'misrepresenting' as 'misinterpreting'.
When we say that someone misinterpreted something, the implication is that it was an honest mistake.
When we say that someone misrepresented something, the implication is that this person has violated our trust, and deliberately perpetrated a scam of some kind.
It's like the difference between involuntary manslaughter and first degree murder.

GraceSCKao wrote:
My understanding of the use of colon is that the colon is usually followed by an explanation of some point made prior to the colon. Hence, the two statements after the colon should both explain how the constructivists misrepresent the technology determinism.
Correct.

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But, I feel that the first statement, colored in blue, is not part of the misinterpretation for three reasons:

a. "appropriate" is a positive word.
->If the first statement is part of the misinterpretation, it reads "Constructivists think that the determinists believe that machinery imposes appropriate forms of order on society." It is strange that constructivists use a word so approving in their description of their competitors' belief, especially given that the author says the constructivists gain acceptance by distorting their rivals' claims.
Yes, it is strange. That said, the verb "imposes" is a negative word, so maybe that's the emphasis? I don't know enough about the subject matter to be sure, but the nice thing about RC is that I should nevertheless be able to answer all the questions as long as I get the general point. More importantly, note the words "in other words" in the sentence after the one with the colon. These words imply two important things: 1. The two sentences have the same role. 2. the first sentence requires further explanation (in the author's opinion).

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b. the use of "alternative"
->The use of "alternative" increases the difficulty. The word "alternative," used as a noun, primarily means "another choice," as in "an alternative to coffee," but here "the alternative to constructivism" does not mean "another theory different from constructivism," does it? It seems to me that the phrasing means "another way to interpret the technology determinism for the constructivists."
There's an important difference between "an alternative" and "the alternative". Using the article "the" in front of "alternative" implies a binary choice.

GraceSCKao wrote:
c. The first statement is against the second statement.
These constructivists say on one hand that the determinists think that the machines does something appropriate on the society, but mention on the other hand that the determinists also think that the technology exist outside society?

Actually, the idea here (I believe) is that in order to be able to impose forms of order on society, you have to exist outside of society. Perhaps an appropriate analogy here is that the zookeeper can impose forms of order on the animals in the zoo. He or she is able to do so because he or she exists outside of the zoo; an animal from within the zoo would not be able to impose forms of order on the animals in the zoo.

GraceSCKao wrote:
Two more questions are related to the third paragraph, and I answered them correctly. But I still hope to confirm the meaning of the third paragraph.
Given my responses above, do these last two questions still require my attention?
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6. According to the passage, constructivists employed which of the following to promote their argument?

(D) Contrasts of their view with a misstatement of an opposing view ->correct

In fact, I am not sure from the 3rd paragraph whether the constructivists contrasts two views, but other options are less realistic.

Quote:
7. The author of the passage uses the expression “are supposed to” in line 27 primarily in order to

(A) suggest that a contention made by constructivists regarding determinists is inaccurate ->correct

I think that the "contention" in option (A) could refer to the second statement (technology exist outside the society.)

Experts how do you think about the third paragraph?
If you do think that the third paragraph contains only the misinterpretation, could you elaborate why? And does the phrasing "are supposed to" and "alternative" play a role in the meaning?
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Firstly, misinterpreting and misrepresenting are two very different things, and I wonder whether your difficulty with this passage stems, at least in part, from interpreting (pun intended) the word 'misrepresenting' as 'misinterpreting'.
When we say that someone misinterpreted something, the implication is that it was an honest mistake.
When we say that someone misrepresented something, the implication is that this person has violated our trust, and deliberately perpetrated a scam of some kind.
It's like the difference between involuntary manslaughter and first degree murder.

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Yes, it is strange. That said, the verb "imposes" is a negative word, so maybe that's the emphasis? I don't know enough about the subject matter to be sure, but the nice thing about RC is that I should nevertheless be able to answer all the questions as long as I get the general point. More importantly, note the words "in other words" in the sentence after the one with the colon. These words imply two important things: 1. The two sentences have the same role. 2. the first sentence requires further explanation (in the author's opinion).

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There's an important difference between "an alternative" and "the alternative". Using the article "the" in front of "alternative" implies a binary choice.

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Actually, the idea here (I believe) is that in order to be able to impose forms of order on society, you have to exist outside of society. Perhaps an appropriate analogy here is that the zookeeper can impose forms of order on the animals in the zoo. He or she is able to do so because he or she exists outside of the zoo; an animal from within the zoo would not be able to impose forms of order on the animals in the zoo.


Thank you so much avigutman !!!
I always learn a lot with your explanations. :) For example, I did not know the difference between "misrepresent" and "misinterpret," or the difference between "an alternative" and "the alternative"--thank you for pointing these out.
Appreciate your enlightening explanations.

I could finally see the third paragraph.
The constructivists gain acceptance by misrepresenting technological determinism: technological determinists are supposed to believe, for example, that machinery imposes appropriate forms of order on society. The alternative to constructivism, in other words, is to view technology as existing outside society, capable of directly influencing skills and work organization.

Both the two statements are indeed the misrepresentation made by the constructivists. I previously thought that they are said by different parties (author vs constructivists) and send different messages, but in fact they are said by the same people (constructivists) and deliver one message--just in two different angles.

The first statement: The constructivists said that the technology determinists believe that machinery imposes some forms of order on society.
The second statement: The constructivists said that the determinism considers technology existing outside society and capable of influencing skills and work organization.

I personally think that two elements make the 3rd paragraph obscure:

(1) the use of colon
The subjects of the two statements are determinists/determinism, but the sentences cannot be understood alone without the context or the colon. Once I realize that it is the constructivists who say the two sentences, I could see that the meaning is completely different.

The difference is like that between these two sentences:
a. The FDA is to give a marketing approval for the new drug soon.
b. The pharmaceutical company said that the FDA is to give a marketing approval for the new drug soon.

We cannot know for sure from (b) whether the FDA is really to approve the new drug, because it is possible that the pharmaceutical company is lying or too optimistic.

The 3rd paragraph does the same thing, but in a different way. By using the colon, the test designers conveniently eliminate the part "The constructivists say that." And I have to use the colon and the context to figure out that the two statements are both misrepresentation.

(2) the use of "alternative"

Thanks to Avigutman's explanation, I now know that "the alternative" is different from "an alternative." "The alternative" means "another choice"--only one of the two choices would be chosen. An example would be "the government is facing the alternative of high taxes or poor highways." On the other hand, "an alternative" just means something that can be chosen instead. An example would be "I need an alternative to coffee."

Since this passage is centered around only two theories, we can clearly see that "the alternative to constructivism" refers to "technology determinism." The test designers just chose not to nicely and directly write down "technology determinism" as the clear subject. Why? Maybe their purpose is to increase the difficulty, or to reiterate the idea "the alternative to constructivism is determinism," implying that the views held by the constructivists are different.

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I recently feel that reading RC passages requires a different ability from that used in reading SC sentences. Though parsing a single one sentence is still essential, sometimes the challenges rest on reading several sentences as a whole.

Thank you experts for helping me learn. :)
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akt715 wrote:
The constructivists gain acceptance by misrepresenting technological determinism: technological determinists are supposed to believe, for example, that machinery imposes appropriate forms of order on society.

I didn't understand what the above lines are saying . Is it the actual view of technological determinists or is it misinterpreted view of technological determinists (view of the constructivists)

Here, the author tells us that the constructivists misrepresent the views of technological determinists. So, this sentence doesn't give us the actual viewpoint of determinists -- it gives us the distorted way in which constructivists describe the views of their opponents.

Constructivists say that determinists hold the extreme belief that "machinery imposes appropriate forms of order on society." In the last paragraph, we see Clark's response to this claim -- he doesn't actually hold that view at all.

I hope that helps!


GMATNinja,
I am still a bit confused on the meaning behind paragraph 3. Does the "in other words" part simply rephrase "machinery imposes appropriate forms on order of society"?

My second question pertains to question 587 ("The information in the passage suggests that Clark believes that which of the following would be true if social constructivism had not gained widespread acceptance?"). I am confused as to how we can draw "social change" from lines 9-11. From my understanding, these lines just say tech can determine social and managerial organization. Drawing "social change" from that seems like a far stretch?

Thank you so much in advance!

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Does the "in other words" part simply rephrase "machinery imposes appropriate forms on order of society"?

Not exactly. I would say that the role of "in other words" here is to elevate the level of analysis to a bigger picture perspective, so it's more of an inference than a rephrase. Analogy:
James gets custody of the children by misrepresenting his wife's financial situation: she is supposed to be, for example, losing her home. The alternative to giving James custody, in other words, is to let the children live on the street.
Letting the children live on the street isn't exactly a rephrase of the mother losing her home.
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My second question pertains to question 587 ("The information in the passage suggests that Clark believes that which of the following would be true if social constructivism had not gained widespread acceptance?"). I am confused as to how we can draw "social change" from lines 9-11. From my understanding, these lines just say tech can determine social and managerial organization. Drawing "social change" from that seems like a far stretch?

It seems to me, woohoo921, that the relevant text for this question is the following:
Quote:
Clark makes the point that the characteristics of a technology have a decisive influence on job skills and work organization. Put more strongly, technology can be a primary determinant of social and managerial organization. Clark believes this possibility has been obscured by the recent sociological fashion

I boldfaced the word "obscured" because that seems to be the crux of what Clark believes is the impact of social constructivism gaining widespread acceptance. So, Clark believes "this possibility" has been obscured. What possibility, exactly?
the characteristics of a technology have a decisive influence on job skills and work organization. Put more strongly, technology can be a primary determinant of social and managerial organization
So, we're looking for an answer choice that shows what might have happened had this possibility not been obscured.
Now, woohoo921, you're asking how we can go from tech can determine social and managerial organization to technology producing social change?
Well, yes, if something can determine social organization... then it can produce social change. If you can determine how something is organized, then you can change the way that it is organized.
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woohoo921 wrote:
Does the "in other words" part simply rephrase "machinery imposes appropriate forms on order of society"?

Not exactly. I would say that the role of "in other words" here is to elevate the level of analysis to a bigger picture perspective, so it's more of an inference than a rephrase. Analogy:
James gets custody of the children by misrepresenting his wife's financial situation: she is supposed to be, for example, losing her home. The alternative to giving James custody, in other words, is to let the children live on the street.
Letting the children live on the street isn't exactly a rephrase of the mother losing her home.
woohoo921 wrote:
My second question pertains to question 587 ("The information in the passage suggests that Clark believes that which of the following would be true if social constructivism had not gained widespread acceptance?"). I am confused as to how we can draw "social change" from lines 9-11. From my understanding, these lines just say tech can determine social and managerial organization. Drawing "social change" from that seems like a far stretch?

It seems to me, woohoo921, that the relevant text for this question is the following:
Quote:
Clark makes the point that the characteristics of a technology have a decisive influence on job skills and work organization. Put more strongly, technology can be a primary determinant of social and managerial organization. Clark believes this possibility has been obscured by the recent sociological fashion

I boldfaced the word "obscured" because that seems to be the crux of what Clark believes is the impact of social constructivism gaining widespread acceptance. So, Clark believes "this possibility" has been obscured. What possibility, exactly?
the characteristics of a technology have a decisive influence on job skills and work organization. Put more strongly, technology can be a primary determinant of social and managerial organization
So, we're looking for an answer choice that shows what might have happened had this possibility not been obscured.
Now, woohoo921, you're asking how we can go from tech can determine social and managerial organization to technology producing social change?
Well, yes, if something can determine social organization... then it can produce social change. If you can determine how something is organized, then you can change the way that it is organized.


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Thank you so much! You are the best!

I have one more follow-up question, why does the author put "technological determinists are supposed to believe" after the colon? I realize that this is discussed above, but is this the constructivists saying, "technological determinists are supposed to believe"?

Thank you again.
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I have one more follow-up question, why does the author put "technological determinists are supposed to believe" after the colon? I realize that this is discussed above, but is this the constructivists saying, "technological determinists are supposed to believe”

It’s an example of how the constructivists misrepresent technological determinism, woohoo921.
So, the constructivists are saying “technological determinists believe.”
The author is saying “are supposed to” in order to show us that the technological determinists DON’T truly believe - the constructivists are using trickery to make us think that the determinists believe.

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Found this passage really dense and very difficult to comprehend.
Got 3/8.. Can you all please give some tips on how to tackle with such long and "difficult to understand" passages?
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Can you all please give some tips on how to tackle with such long and "difficult to understand" passages?


The essential underlying principles of RC don't significantly vary with differences in the content, so, mostly this will come down to developing a more solid understanding of how GMAT RC problems (and their answer choices) work in general.

One insight that you may find helpful here, though, is that you can usually ascertain main ideas from statements that are made in more general terms, WITHOUT highly technical language. You'll almost certainly find these statements far easier to comprehend than technical-jargon-filled statements of more specific facts.



In this passage, for instance, the following statements (broken down paragraph by paragraph) are definitely good enough to determine the main idea:

Jon Clark’s study ... is a solid contribution to a debate that encompasses ... technological determinism and social constructivism.
—> These are the two sides of the debate here

Clark believes ... has been obscured by ... [the idea] exemplified by Braverman’s analysis. ...
This position represents ... social constructivism.
—> So Clark is OPPOSED to "social constructivism"

The constructivists gain acceptance by misrepresenting technological determinism...
—> "Social constructivism" is basically lies, then

Clark refutes the extremes of the constructivists. ...
—> Clark says NO to social constructivism (and therefore YES to technological determinism)




Note just how little understanding of the technical details is necessary to determine the main idea. That's not an isolated feature of this passage—you should find that the same is true across the GMAT RC section, ESPECIALLY for passages with unusual amounts of highly technical detail. The more technical and complicated the details are, the LESS important it will be for you to fully 'get' them!
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