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Asset allocators create portfolios, often in the form of mutual funds,

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Re: Asset allocators create portfolios, often in the form of mutual funds, [#permalink] New post   27 Jun 2022, 04:30
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Hello Expert :)

I have following doubts:

1. '' , often ...'' is a comma+ ed verbal. As per e-gmat it is same as , +ing verbal and thus should modify the verb which is not the case here. can , ed verbal modifies verb or it is always noun ?


2. does 'ing' or ed verbal indicates the tense? the present and past tone of the sentence can be deduced from these verbals ?

3. can a modifier modify different nouns e.g
'' More than ever before, policies, curricula, and salaries no longer following... ''

'following modifying the preceding 'salaries' or all of it before. Do we call it ambiguous or logical ?


4. Modifier 1, modifier 2, modified noun.

do we need a connector b/w mod 1 and mod 2. I guess when modifier 1 is an appositive phrase/ absolute phrase then we don't need a connector. Please confirm



Thanking you in anticipation :)


Hello himanshu0123,

We hope this finds you well.

To answer your queries,

1. "often in the form of mutual funds" is not a past participle ("verb+ed") modifier; "often in the form of mutual funds" is one modifying phrase that acts on the verb phrase "create portfolios", and "intended to turn in good results..." is a separate modifier that acts upon "mutual funds".

2. Present participles ("verb+ing") do not indicate tense; the use of a present participle to modify a noun conveys that the noun took an action that is continuous in nature, but this action can be in the past, present, or future depending on the context. The past participle, which often but not always takes the form "verb+ed", does convey that the action it refers to concluded in the past.

3. Yes; one modifier can act upon all elements in a list, so long as the meaning conveyed is logical.

4. No; two noun modifiers - or adjectives - can be joined with just a comma. For example, "I live in the big, red house."

We hope this helps.
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Re: Asset allocators create portfolios, often in the form of mutual funds, [#permalink] New post   01 Jul 2022, 04:08
Thankyou @Expertglobal for your time

w.r.t your statement:

''The past participle, which often but not always takes the form "verb+ed", does convey that the action it refers to concluded in the past. ''

--should not the aiding verb 'is/was/ will be '' dictates the time of the sentence and not the ed verbal. Please help me clarify from an OG qsn
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Re: Asset allocators create portfolios, often in the form of mutual funds, [#permalink] New post   01 Jul 2022, 04:35
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Thankyou @Expertglobal for your time

w.r.t your statement:

''The past participle, which often but not always takes the form "verb+ed", does convey that the action it refers to concluded in the past. ''

--should not the aiding verb 'is/was/ will be '' dictates the time of the sentence and not the ed verbal. Please help me clarify from an OG qsn


Hello himanshu0123,

We hope this finds you well.

To answer your query, when the past participle is part of an active verb phrase the aiding verb dictates the tense, but when the past participle acts upon a noun alone, as a modifier, it refers to an action that concluded in the past.

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Re: Asset allocators create portfolios, often in the form of mutual funds, [#permalink] New post   02 Jul 2022, 05:37
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could you please help me with some OG examples to show in what cases ED VERBAL DICTATES TENSE and when not.
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Re: Asset allocators create portfolios, often in the form of mutual funds, [#permalink] New post   02 Jul 2022, 10:58
Hi I have a couple of questions regarding this problem.
1. what is the "which" in option B actually referring to? mutual funds/ portfolios?
2. In option A isnt the "with the intention......" telling us more about why asset allocators create portfolios? So why is a wrong choice if we look at it through the meaning lens?
3. In E if the "intended" was omitted from "So intended as", would doing so make this option correct?
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Re: Asset allocators create portfolios, often in the form of mutual funds, [#permalink] New post   03 Jul 2022, 05:39
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could you please help me with some OG examples to show in what cases ED VERBAL DICTATES TENSE and when not.


Hello himanshu0123,

We hope this finds you well.

Put simply, whenever the past participle is used alone, whether as a verb or a modifier, it refers to an action that concluded in the past; whenever the past participle is used alongside a helping verb, such as "is", "will be", etc., it is the helping verb that determines the tense.

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Re: Asset allocators create portfolios, often in the form of mutual funds, [#permalink] New post   03 Jul 2022, 05:55
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Hi I have a couple of questions regarding this problem.
1. what is the "which" in option B actually referring to? mutual funds/ portfolios?
2. In option A isnt the "with the intention......" telling us more about why asset allocators create portfolios? So why is a wrong choice if we look at it through the meaning lens?
3. In E if the "intended" was omitted from "So intended as", would doing so make this option correct?


Hello sv2023,

We hope this finds you well.

To answer your queries,

1. In Option B, "the intention of which is..." is a modifying phrase that refers to "portfolios".

2. "with the intention" is an adverbial phrase, so it modifies the verb "create", incorrectly implying that the intention behind creating the portfolios is to turn in good results in both “bull” and “bear” markets; the intended meaning is that the portfolios that are created are intended to turn in good results in both “bull” and “bear” markets.

3. "so as to" is generally an incorrect usage on GMAT; "so + cause + as to + effect" is the correct, idiomatic usage.

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Re: Asset allocators create portfolios, often in the form of mutual funds, [#permalink] New post   06 May 2023, 01:08
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Asset allocators create portfolios, often in the form of mutual funds,with the intention to turn in good results in both “bull” and “bear” markets.

To make things clear, let us score out the parenthetical appositive - often in the form of mutual funds – and it will then be clear whether - the intention - modifies portfolios or the allocators. It is indeed modifying the portfolios.

(A) With the intention - with the intention to - is wrong idiom. - Intention of - is the right idiom.
(B) The intention of which is - the intention of which is modifying rightly the portfolios (otherwise why will it say - of which) but the expression is wordy
(C) intended to - perfectly and crisply uses the participle intended to modify the portfolios.
(D) And intending - and intending is a fragment
(E) So intended as - so intended as to – ugly and unidiomatic
C - The clear and crisp choice


Shouldnt option C modify the verb and not the noun as it is an adverbial modifier. It is ,-ed ?
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Asset allocators create portfolios, often in the form of mutual funds, [#permalink] New post   06 May 2023, 22:18
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Shouldnt option C modify the verb and not the noun as it is an adverbial modifier. It is ,-ed ?

Hi Rishi108,

Firstly, a participle preceded by a comma may or may not be acting as an adverb. Secondly, in option C, the comma we see before intended is actually for the modifier just before the participle.

1. Asset allocators create portfolios, often in the form of mutual funds, intended...

There's no simple rule that we can apply here, but in this particular case, both the commas should be seen as a pair of commas for the phrase often in the form of mutual funds.

2. Asset allocators create portfolios, often in the form of mutual funds, intended...

When we take often in the form of mutual funds out, we must take both the commas out as well.
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Re: Asset allocators create portfolios, often in the form of mutual funds, [#permalink] New post   15 May 2023, 20:50
From what I've read on https://e-gmat.com/blogs/verb-ed-modifi ... modifiers/, if a formation of sentence is:

Clause + Comma + Participle, it will modify the subject, it means if we follow this rule, the option C will modify "asset allocators"

Can anybody explain this exception?
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Re: Asset allocators create portfolios, often in the form of mutual funds, [#permalink] New post   15 May 2023, 22:21
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blablabla1997 wrote:
From what I've read on https://e-gmat.com/blogs/verb-ed-modifi ... modifiers/, if a formation of sentence is:

Clause + Comma + Participle, it will modify the subject, it means if we follow this rule, the option C will modify "asset allocators"

Can anybody explain this exception?

Hi blablabla1997,

That rule isn't an absolute, but more importantly, it doesn't apply to option C. In the sentence that option C leads to, both the commas should be seen as a pair of commas for the phrase often in the form of mutual funds.

1. Asset allocators create portfolios, often in the form of mutual funds, intended...

When we take often in the form of mutual funds out, we must take both the commas out as well.
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