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Asset allocators, whether individuals or professional services, in effect create an all-weather portfolio, often in the form of mutual funds, intended to turn in good results in both bull and bear markets. The purpose is to offset declines in the value of one segment with advances in another.
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Asset allocators create portfolios, o[strike]ften in the form of mutual funds,[/strike]with the intention to turn in good results in both “bull” and “bear” markets.
To make things clear, let us score out the parenthetical appositive - often in the form of mutual funds – and it will then be clear whether - the intention - modifies portfolios or the allocators. It is indeed modifying the portfolios.
(A) With the intention - with the intention to - is wrong idiom. - Intention of - is the right idiom. (B) The intention of which is - the intention of which is modifying rightly the portfolios (otherwise why will it say - of which) but the expression is wordy (C) intended to - perfectly and crisply uses the participle intended to modify the portfolios. (D) And intending - and intending is a fragment (E) So intended as - so intended as to – ugly and unidiomatic C - The clear and crisp choice
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18 May 2009, 05:31
IMO B
Asset allocators create portfolios, often in the form of mutual funds, with the intention to turn in good results in both “bull” and “bear” markets. (A) with the intention --> with + Noun + to ... is unidiomatic. with + noun phrase or with + noun + that clause are better (B) the intention of which is -->the best: which correctly modifies for mutual funds, the intention of which is grammatically correct (C) intended --> intended is wrongly implied in passive for asset allocators (D) and intending --> ungrammatical parallelism (E) so intended as -->unidiomatic
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18 May 2009, 05:53
Asset allocators create portfolios, often in the form of mutual funds, with the intention to turn in good results in both “bull” and “bear” markets. (A) with the intention. - must be 'with the intention of' (B) the intention of which is - correct (C) intended (D) and intending (E) so intended as
C, D, E are wrong at the very first glance. IMHO, (B)
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18 May 2009, 06:03
tenaman10 wrote:
• Asset allocators create portfolios, often in the form of mutual funds, with the intention to turn in good results in both “bull” and “bear” markets. (A) with the intention. (B) the intention of which is (C) intended (D) and intending (E) so intended as
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18 May 2009, 06:43
tenaman10 wrote:
• Asset allocators create portfolios, often in the form of mutual funds, with the intention to turn in good results in both “bull” and “bear” markets. (A) with the intention. (B) the intention of which is (C) intended (D) and intending (E) so intended as
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18 May 2009, 07:21
Minheequang wrote:
IMO B
Asset allocators create portfolios, often in the form of mutual funds, with the intention to turn in good results in both “bull” and “bear” markets. (A) with the intention --> with + Noun + to ... is unidiomatic. with + noun phrase or with + noun + that clause are better (B) the intention of which is -->the best: which correctly modifies for mutual funds, the intention of which is grammatically correct (C) intended --> intended is wrongly implied in passive for asset allocators (D) and intending --> ungrammatical parallelism (E) so intended as -->unidiomatic
I think the underlined section should modify "portfolios" - the author would use other ways if he wished to modify "mutual funds". Now, "intended" in C, a past participle, nicely modifies "portfolios".
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18 May 2009, 07:38
seofah wrote:
Minheequang wrote:
IMO B
Asset allocators create portfolios, often in the form of mutual funds, with the intention to turn in good results in both “bull” and “bear” markets. (A) with the intention --> with + Noun + to ... is unidiomatic. with + noun phrase or with + noun + that clause are better (B) the intention of which is -->the best: which correctly modifies for mutual funds, the intention of which is grammatically correct (C) intended --> intended is wrongly implied in passive for asset allocators (D) and intending --> ungrammatical parallelism (E) so intended as -->unidiomatic
I think the underlined section should modify "portfolios" - the author would use other ways if he wished to modify "mutual funds". Now, "intended" in C, a past participle, nicely modifies "portfolios".
Oh, I forgot that intended here can be an adjective. Initially, I thought intend is only a verb and it is wrongly implied here as passive
It's dangerous, there are many verbs which also have their adjective form. I can't remember all of them
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18 Nov 2010, 07:56
I'd say A is correct because B implies mutual funds have intentions.
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18 Nov 2010, 20:17
[quote="mailnavin1"]Asset allocators create portfolios, often in the form of mutual funds, with the intention to turn in good results in both “bull” and “bear” markets.
(A) with the intention (B) the intention of which is (C) intended (D) and intending (E) so intended as
I chose A initially. I thought that the 'intention' was of the asset allocators. Finally chose C because it is the mutual funds that are 'intended to turn in good results...'.
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Hi daagh, thanks for explanations.
I would like to point out few examples of correct usage of the idiom "intention". The source is Oxford Dictionary:
intention / noun [C,U] ~ (of doing sth) | ~ (to do sth) | ~ (that...) what you intend or plan to do; your aim: I have no intention of going to the wedding. * He has announced his intention to retire. * It was not my intention that she should suffer. * He left England with the intention of travelling in Africa. * I have every intention of paying her back what I owe her. * The original intention was to devote three months to the project. * She's full of good intentions but they rarely work out. * I did it with the best (of) intentions (= meaning to help), but I only succeeded in annoying them.
So I would disagree that the idiom "intention to" is wrong. I think you wanted to say that the way it is used in A is wrong. For example if it were "Asset allocators create portfolios, often in the form of mutual funds, with the intention of turning in good results in both “bull” and “bear” markets." it would be perfectly fine as for me.
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18 Nov 2010, 21:55
Pkit You are perfectly right. In the given context - intention to turn in -does not fit in> Pairwise it may be acceptable as you have clearly made out
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20 Apr 2011, 01:37
C is better than A because
"Intended" ... verb form... correctly modifies the verb "create".... whereas "with the intension" is wordy, and "intension" in the noun form. According to Manhattan advance sentence correction section convert nouns to verbs to make sentence precise and short
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According to me, there are two problems with A. The major one is that A is changing the implied meaning of the sentence. What is intended to give good results? Portfolios, or asset allocators? Answer is portfolios. A implies that the allocators themselves, not the portfolios, will turn in good results. That doesn't make sense. Another problem is the idiom- intention of turning in is better than intention to turn in, idiom-wise.
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20 May 2011, 22:30
The issue in A is wrong idiomatic expression.--with the X of is correct expression not with the X to. B-is wordy and awkward. C-is concise and clear form to denote the intention of allocates. D-create and intending to separate action performed by the allocates-incorrect E--awkward and grammatically incorrect
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21 May 2011, 02:51
rojans wrote:
The issue in A is wrong idiomatic expression.--with the X of is correct expression not with the X to. B-is wordy and awkward. C-is concise and clear form to denote the intention of allocates. D-create and intending to separate action performed by the allocates-incorrect E--awkward and grammatically incorrect
C- is winner here
Can anyone confirm that there's a problem with the idiom? 'with the intention of [gerund]' and 'with the intention to [infinitive]' are both correct in my book.
I think the only mistake here is around modifyers.
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seofah wrote:
Minheequang wrote:
IMO B Asset allocators create portfolios, often in the form of mutual funds, with the intention to turn in good results in both “bull” and “bear” markets. (A) with the intention --> with + Noun + to ... is unidiomatic. with + noun phrase or with + noun + that clause are better (B) the intention of which is -->the best: which correctly modifies for mutual funds, the intention of which is grammatically correct (C) intended --> intended is wrongly implied in passive for asset allocators (D) and intending --> ungrammatical parallelism (E) so intended as -->unidiomatic
I think the underlined section should modify "portfolios" - the author would use other ways if he wished to modify "mutual funds". Now, "intended" in C, a past participle, nicely modifies "portfolios".
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