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A) that existed at the same time as the Australopithecines Correct

=>Comparison: Paranthropus vs Australopithecines vs some other species of homo genus
=> It's a one time event in past. The sentence correctly use simple past

B) that had existed at the same time as had the Australopithecines Incorrect

=> Past perfect is used to denote sequence of related events in past. In this sentence, only one event in past exist. So, no need to use past perfect

C) that existed at the same time as had the Australopithecines Incorrect

=> Both species existed at the same time in past. There is no sequence of event in past. Both parts should be in simple past form.

D) existing at the same time as the Australopithecines Incorrect

=> Meaning error: If we use verb-ing modifier in this case, the meaning will be changed. There will be no trace that species existed in the past.

E) existing at the same time as were the Australopithecines Incorrect

=> Same error exists as in D
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Paranthropus are a group of hominids that existed at the same time as the Australopithecines and some other species of the Homo genus.

A) that existed at the same time as the Australopithecines

B) that had existed at the same time as had the Australopithecines

C) that existed at the same time as had the Australopithecines

D) existing at the same time as the Australopithecines

E) existing at the same time as were the Australopithecines


A) that existed at the same time as the Australopithecines- Correct.

B) that had existed at the same time as had the Australopithecines- "existed " indicates past,in "had existed"... had is unecessary.

C) that existed at the same time as had the Australopithecines- gramatically wrong, the word "had" is wrong.

D) existing at the same time as the Australopithecines.- Usage of" existing " continuous tense is wrong.

E) existing at the same time as were the Australopithecines.- "existing " and "were".. wrong.

IMO A.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
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We are talking about the past here, using ing participle is wrong, we can directly eliminate D and E option.

Had existed is the past perfect tense interpreting the past before simple past, the author is intended to show the similar time when the mentioned species used to exist.
If we talk about the past perfect we need simple past to show the consecutive past series which is not available,
C use simple past first than past perfect when it has to be opposite,
B used past perfect both time breaking the consecutive past sequence.
Hence A is best Option.

Answer is A

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Paranthropus are a group of hominids that existed at the same time as the Australopithecines and some other species of the Homo genus.

A) that existed at the same time as the Australopithecines

B) that had existed at the same time as had the Australopithecines

C) that existed at the same time as had the Australopithecines

D) existing at the same time as the Australopithecines

E) existing at the same time as were the Australopithecines



C) that existed at the same time as had (existed) the Australopithecines-- correct

IMO C.

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Paranthropus are a group of hominids that existed at the same time as the Australopithecines and some other species of the Homo genus.

A) that existed at the same time as the Australopithecines - Seems right. ( ✔ )

B) that had existed at the same time as had the Australopithecines - One ' had ' makes it clear we are talking about the past. Doesn't really seem to use it 2 times. But still a option we can consider.

C) that existed at the same time as had the Australopithecines - Had is not rightly used here. ( X )

D) existing at the same time as the Australopithecines - Exisiting used is wrong. ( X )

E) existing at the same time as were the Australopithecines - ' as were ' ( X )

confused between A & B . Will Go with A.
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Paranthropus are a group of hominids that existed at the same time as the Australopithecines and some other species of the Homo genus.

A) that existed at the same time as the Australopithecines
Correct Choice

B) that had existed at the same time as had the Australopithecines
Use of Had - we need to check the second action
1st action- existed
but there is no second action
so eliminate this choice



C) that existed at the same time as had the Australopithecines
Again same error,

Use of Had - we need to check the second action
1st action- Austra..... existed
but there is no second action
so eliminate this choice


D) existing at the same time as the Australopithecines
Eliminate
It means it is still existing which is i think not the case


E) existing at the same time as were the Australopithecines

Eliminate
It means it is still existing which is i think not the case
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This is really simple but confusing question .. Not sure whether I got it right . but similar to ... I existed at the same time as you (existed) .



Paranthropus are a group of hominids that existed at the same time as the Australopithecines and some other species of the Homo genus.




A) that existed at the same time as the Australopithecines
-- correct comparison .. (existed is used in ellipses )

B) that had existed at the same time as had the Australopithecines
-- had existed is not necessary

C) that existed at the same time as had the Australopithecines
-- Wrong.. usage of had. Wrong parallelism .. .

D) existing at the same time as the Australopithecines
-- Existing is wrong
E) existing at the same time as were the Australopithecines
-- Existing is wrong

Originally posted by HoneyLemon on 07 Aug 2020, 02:17.
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Paranthropus are a group of hominids that existed at the same time as the Australopithecines and some other species of the Homo genus.

A) that existed at the same time as the Australopithecines ----> Correct. Paranthropus existed at the same time as the Australopithecines[existed].

B) that had existed at the same time as had the Australopithecines ---> Use of the past perfect tense is wrong.

C) that existed at the same time as had the Australopithecines -----> Changed the meaning, as Australopithecines didn't exist before Paranthropus

D) existing at the same time as the Australopithecines ---> Use of existing is wrong

E) existing at the same time as were the Australopithecines ----> existing(adjective) is not parallel to verb were.
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Paranthropus are a group of hominids that existed at the same time as the Australopithecines and some other species of the Homo genus.

A) that existed at the same time as the Australopithecines

Incorrect - comparison between existed and the Australopithecines

B) that had existed at the same time as had the Australopithecines

Incorrect - "had existed at the same time" not logical

had existed or existed at the same time

C) that existed at the same time as had the Australopithecines

correct -

D) existing at the same time as the Australopithecines

Incorrect - tense problem

E) existing at the same time as were the Australopithecines

Incorrect - same as D

Originally posted by winterschool on 07 Aug 2020, 23:10.
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Paranthropus are a group of hominids that existed at the same time as the Australopithecines and some other species of the Homo genus.

Question is basically stating that Paranthropus and Australopithecines existed at the same time in the past. So simple past can define the relationship as there is no sequence of events

A) that existed at the same time as the Australopithecines - Simple Past used no problem with the answer choice

B) that had existed at the same time as had the Australopithecines - Incorrect due to past perfect

C) that existed at the same time as had the Australopithecines - Incorrect due to past perfect

D) existing at the same time as the Australopithecines - incorrect

E) existing at the same time as were the Australopithecines - Incorrect
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Paranthropus are a group of hominids that existed at the same time as the Australopithecines and some other species of the Homo genus.

A) that existed at the same time as the Australopithecines
Correct: X existed at the same time Y (did). This is fine as these two entities took place in the past(moreover, simple past). This should have been fine even if X and Y were both depicted in the present.

cathygeorge123 , first, welcome to SC Butler. :)

Second, you want to be careful about the assertion I highlighted. I may not understand what you mean.

I think you believe that this sentence would be acceptable:

Paranthropus are a group of hominids that exist at the same time as the Australopithecines and some other species of the Homo genus.
That sentence is not grammatical.

GMAC follows the convention of using present tense to describe scientific facts.

But sometimes complex sentences require us to mix tenses.

The most famous example of this tense mixture is the sentence,
"In 1905, Albert Einstein postulated that the speed of light is constant. . . "

Postulated refers to an event that occurred in 1905 and is therefore written in past tense, whereas is conveys a general truth and is written in the present tense.

This tense mixing is similarly required in option A.

In (A), we cannot depict Paranthropus, Australopithecines and some other species of the Homo genus in the present, and doing so would not be fine.

The three hominid groups are extinct.
They do not exist in the present. We cannot say that they exist.

The scientific facts about them do exist in the present.

So we mix the tenses. Your comment spurred me to address an important issue. Mixed verb tenses are kinda weird.

The rest of your answers are just fine. Nicely done.
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Paranthropus are a group of hominids that existed at the same time as the Australopithecines and some other species of the Homo genus.

A) that existed at the same time as the Australopithecines

B) that had existed at the same time as had the Australopithecines

C) that existed at the same time as had the Australopithecines

D) existing at the same time as the Australopithecines

E) existing at the same time as were the Australopithecines


Answer is A.
B and C have tense issues , while D and E did use participle, which is not appropriate here.

Originally posted by elavendan1 on 07 Aug 2020, 04:22.
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Paranthropus are a group of hominids that existed at the same time as the Australopithecines and some other species of the Homo genus.

POE:
Stop sign- 'as', comparison question. We need to compare time with time.
Eliminate (A) - comparison issue.
Eliminate (B), (D) & ( E) - tense error.

A) that existed at the same time as the Australopithecines

B) that had existed at the same time as had the Australopithecines

C) that existed at the same time as had the Australopithecines -CORRECT

D) existing at the same time as the Australopithecines

E) existing at the same time as were the Australopithecines
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Re: Paranthropus are a group of hominids that existed at the same time [#permalink]
As can be used to comprare clauses and each element of the comparison needs its own verb:

C) that existed at the same time as had the Australopithecines - IMHO -> C
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B & C past perfect is not needed
D&E existing is incorrect.

IMO A - looks best of the lot. I must say I was questioning the compaison and looking for parallelism in the second half of the sentence.
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Could you please post the OA?

I have a doubt in A. How is 'as' not followed by a clause? Shouldn't that be incorrect?

If anyone cam help.

Thanks.
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