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I eliminated A,B and C based on the absence of "that while D on the presence of "there" (at the end). Can anybody tell me if my approach was correct or not?


Are A, B and C incorrect only because of missing "that".
Can some expert help me to understand the structure of A, B and C
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IndianExpress wrote:
I eliminated A,B and C based on the absence of "that while D on the presence of "there" (at the end). Can anybody tell me if my approach was correct or not?


Are A, B and C incorrect only because of missing "that".
Can some expert help me to understand the structure of A, B and C


A, B and C are wrong. As far as I know, you want to know what's wrong with them, correct?

Although unhappy with the high rent her company was paying for its suburban office building, the chief executive recognized rental rates for buildings in the suburbs as far lower than it typically is for property that is located within the city limits.

(A) rental rates for buildings in the suburbs as far lower than it typically is for property that is located within the city limits

>>> Wrong. comparison "as...as", not "as .... than". "it" is incorrect, should be "rates" (plural) or "those for"


(B) rental rates for buildings in the suburbs as being far lower than what the rates typically charged within the city limits had been for property located there

>>> Wrong. comparison "as...as", not "as .... than". Also "there" changes the meaning of the sentence. The use of "what" is redundant.


(C) rental rates typically being charged for property located within the city limits to be far lower as they typically were within the city limits for the property there.

>>> Wrong. "being charged" is wrong grammar. Wrong comparison "to be far lower as", doesn't make any sense. The structure should be "as...as" or "lower.... than", not "lower as"


Hope it helps a little bit.
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Here we are..........this is the exact question above. Is a clear example of the words' usage "although" and "that"

Quote:
Although energy prices have tripled in the United States over the last two years, research indicates few people to
have significantly reduced the amount of driving they do, nor are they making
fuel efficiency a priority when
shopping for cars.

A. few people to have significantly reduced the amount of driving they do, nor are they making
B. few people having significantly reduced the amount of driving they do or made
C. that there are few people who have significantly reduced the amount of driving they do, nor having made
D. that few people have significantly reduced the amount of driving they do and are not making
E. that few people have significantly reduced the amount of driving they do or made


Infact based on the meaning the OA is E....notice the structure

here the OE

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Indicates that… A, B out
C: not having made is not parallel to anything else.
Between D and E:
There's a problem of meaning here. Let me illustrate with an analogy.
Few of these animals eat or drink during the harsh daylight hours
--> this sentence would mean that the animals
do neither of these activities, in the main, during daylight hours.
few of these animals eat and avoid drinking during the harsh daylight hours
--> the sentence would mean that
there are few animals that do both of these things, but leaves open the possibility that many, or perhaps even a
majority, do one or the other. Also, this wording is hopelessly awkward, but it probably takes a native speaker's
ear to discern that fact.
the last two choices of the problem exhibit the same sort of issue. The intended meaning is that people are doing
either of these activities, so (e) is the only one of these two choices to correctly represent this meaning
E says: that few people have significantly reduced the amount of driving they do or made
Here…
“have significantly reduced” OR “(have significantly) MADE”… May not look parallel but are absolutely parallel.
“The amount of driving they do” is just a NOUN… so don’t try to make DO parallel to anything.
they're using it idiomatically here. you can "do a lot of driving", in the same way you can "do a lot of homework".
do notice that the identical construction appears in all five choices, so that it's actually irrelevant to the solution of
the problem.
yes, "do that amount of driving" is the idea here.


For reference see the following link

https://gmat-grammar.blogspot.it/2006/06 ... hough.html

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Although unhappy with the high rent her company was paying for its suburban office building, the chief executive recognized rental rates for buildings in the suburbs as far lower than it typically is for property that is located within the city limits.

(A) rental rates for buildings in the suburbs as far lower than it typically is for property that is located within the city limits - that is needed; as far lower than is incorrect
(B) rental rates for buildings in the suburbs as being far lower than what the rates typically charged within the city limits had been for property located there - same as A ; as being far lower than is incorrect
(C) rental rates typically being charged for property located within the city limits to be far lower as they typically were within the city limits for the property there - same as A
(D) that rental rates for buildings in the suburbs were far lower than rental rates typically being charged within the city limits for property located there -being and redundant
(E) that rental rates for buildings in the suburbs were far lower than those typically charged for property located within the city limits - Correct

Answer E
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Although unhappy with the high rent her company was paying for its suburban office building, the chief executive recognized rental rates for buildings in the suburbs as far lower than it typically is for property that is located within the city limits.

(A) rental rates for buildings in the suburbs as far lower than it typically is for property that is located within the city limits - that is needed; as far lower than is incorrect
(B) rental rates for buildings in the suburbs as being far lower than what the rates typically charged within the city limits had been for property located there - same as A ; as being far lower than is incorrect
(C) rental rates typically being charged for property located within the city limits to be far lower as they typically were within the city limits for the property there - same as A
(D) that rental rates for buildings in the suburbs were far lower than rental rates typically being charged within the city limits for property located there -being and redundant
(E) that rental rates for buildings in the suburbs were far lower than those typically charged for property located within the city limits - Correct

Answer E



Hello Skywalker18,


You have presented a really good analysis of all the answer choices. Keep up the good work. :thumbup:


I just want to say that there is no redundancy error in Choice D. This choice is incorrect for using being as a modifier for rental rates. GMAT SC does not accept the use of being as a modifier.


Hope this helps. :-)
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(D) that rental rates for buildings in the suburbs were far lower than rental rates typically being charged within the city limits for property located there

1. Being only correct in GMAT if it meants "in process of". Usage here, therefore, is incorrect
2. for clarify, the two portions marked in red need to be as close as possible to each other.

On another note, in my view, usage of "as" in some other options is incorrect because "as" is used to introduce a new clause and in this usage it means: because.
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On another note, in my view, usage of "as" in some other options is incorrect because "as" is used to introduce a new clause and in this usage it means: because.





Hello sevenplusplus,

You do raise an interesting point.


A closer look at all the answer choices suggests that only Choices A, B, and C use the word as.



In the first two choices, as has been used as part of the expression recognized as. The two choices basically say that the chief executive recognized X as Y.


In Choice C, as has been used to mean because and is correctly followed by the clause they typically were within the city limits....


Hence, IMHO, there is no issue with the usage of the word as in any of the answer choices.



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(D) that rental rates for buildings in the suburbs were far lower than rental rates typically being charged within the city limits for property located there
(E) that rental rates for buildings in the suburbs were far lower than those typically charged for property located within the city limits.

Please explain the meaning difference:
within the city limits for property located there
and
property located within the city limits.
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(D) that rental rates for buildings in the suburbs were far lower than rental rates typically being charged within the city limits for property located there
(E) that rental rates for buildings in the suburbs were far lower than those typically charged for property located within the city limits.

Please explain the meaning difference:
within the city limits for property located there
and
property located within the city limits.


Hello SolankiDas,

We hope this finds you well.

To answer your query, "being charged within the city limits for property located there" seems to imply that the action of charging rental rates was being done within the city limits; this construction also suffers from pronoun ambiguity, as it is unclear whether "there" refers to "suburbs" or "within city limits", meaning this construction does not clearly communicate that the properties referred to here are located within the city limits.

"charged for property located within the city limits" directly modifies "properties" with "located within city limits", clearly and correctly conveying that the properties, rather than the action of charging rental rates for the properties, are located within the city limits.

We hope this helps.
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(D) that rental rates for buildings in the suburbs were far lower than rental rates typically being charged within the city limits for property located there
(E) that rental rates for buildings in the suburbs were far lower than those typically charged for property located within the city limits.

Please explain the meaning difference:
within the city limits for property located there
and
property located within the city limits.



I don't see a lot of relevant difference in meaning here because we do understand what they are trying to say from both options and it is the same in both the cases but (D) is inferior. It uses 'being' which is usually acceptable in case of 'temporary' actions.

The data being collected will be used extensively ...
The action of data collection is going on right now but will happen for a period of time only.
Being a soldier, he .. (We do speak this way but this is inferior in GMAT. He is not 'being a soldier.' He is a soldier.)

We would like to say routinely charged, not 'being charged' for a specific period of time.

Since we have option (E) which is clear, we could say that (D) could mean that the charging is happening within the city limits for the property in the city. But in reality, one could charge from anywhere in the world and could pay from anywhere in the world for property located in the city (even though that meaning isn't exactly wrong either - normally people living in the city will be charged within the city).
Option (E) does not imply that the action of charging is taking place within the city. It only talks about 'property within the city'.
But I am being too literal here and in the exam it will not be my reason for elimination. It will just be an extra point in favour of (E).
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(D) that rental rates for buildings in the suburbs were far lower than rental rates typically being charged within the city limits for property located there
(E) that rental rates for buildings in the suburbs were far lower than those typically charged for property located within the city limits.

Please explain the meaning difference:
within the city limits for property located there
and
property located within the city limits.

Looks like this one's been addressed by other experts, but here's one additional thought:

The "there" in (D) is a bit ambiguous. Does this refer to "in the suburbs" or "within the city limits"? The latter makes more sense, but it's up to the reader to figure it out.

By using "for property located within the city limits" instead, (E) avoids that ambiguity altogether.
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