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New post 24 Apr 2015, 22:36
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Hi aimtoteach,

I must confess I've never heard the advice to avoid saying "the same." That seems kind of strange as a blanket recommendation. In fact, the most common way to use the word "same" is with "the" in front of it. Can you give me an example of the kind of usage you were trained to avoid?



Hello Dmitry,

In business writing, I have been told to avoid 'the same' usage in the following manner:

1) The internet service will not be available from 9 am IST; the same will be reinstated from 10 am IST today.
2) The expense claim form has been updated for all future submissions, the same is enclosed for your reference.

I believe there is a lot of unlearning I have to do :(


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Ah, I see. I suppose it's a matter of style, but the expression works here. I can't say I've seen it in any official GMAT problems, but I suppose it could crop up.
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If you start with a comparison such as "Unlike X," you need to make sure that the item you're comparing comes along next (not counting any modifiers in the middle). Take out the modifier and look at what is getting compared here:

"Unlike German shepherds and Doberman pinschers, such belief . . . " We don't want to compare dogs to belief!
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The issue isn't what word goes with "same." It's what ideas you're comparing:

My parents paid for my brother's education, and I want them to do the same for me.

I think highly of my business partners, and I want them to think the same of me.


In the case of the original question, the idiom is "believe X of Y":

I can accept that the other kids lied, but I can't believe this of my daughter.

Does that make sense?
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Hi,

The options clearly boil down to between B and D. But I selected D over B and here are my two cents:

In option B: The reference is made to people who are willing to believe that German shepherds and Doberman pinchers might be fully domesticated.

Now as per the real sentence the people is refered to generally and not specifically the lot "who are willing to believe". IMO option B changes the meaning.

In option D:
I can see that "they" is ambiguous however it does not make sense to say "the bulls" are willing to believe... How does anyone think that "the bulls" will believe?? :shock:

Hence I went with B. :oops: Please correct me if I am wrong.

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in B i remove the dependent clause, but then its not clear what "same" means. I asked myself "same what?", can someone explain why the vague "same" is acceptable?

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