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Re: Among the objects found in the excavated temple were small terra-cotta [#permalink]
this question is purely idiomatical. I agree choice A is best.

but I have a question
in choice A, "healing " refers to the subject "who" or to " aid" ?
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this question is purely idiomatical. I agree choice A is best.

but I have a question
in choice A, "healing " refers to the subject "who" or to " aid" ?
Neither, as we have an aid in X here. Read it along with the in (in doing something).

... in healing...
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I still can't wrap my head around this one.

Among the objects found in the excavated temple were small terra-cotta effigies left by supplicants who were either asking the goddess Bona Dea's aid in healing physical and mental ills or thanking her for such help.


From what I understand aid could have 2 meanings here:

1) help
In which case it would have been better to write:

either asking 'for' the goddess Bona Dea's aid in healing physical and mental ills or thanking her for such help.

Also from the later part of the sentence (for such help) it seems clear to me that aid should mean 'help' here.

In which case,
- you ask for someone's help/aid
- you don't ask someone's aid (here aid would mean a person or an entity who would help)

2) If aid means a person or a thing then

I believe it should be:

either asking the goddess Bona Dea's aid to heal physical and mental ills or thanking her for such help.

Because

You ask someone (who happens to be aid here) to do something

You ask someone in something (this seems wrong to me)


I would appreciate if someone could shed some light over this.

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iamdivs wrote:
- you ask for someone's help/aid
- you don't ask someone's aid (here aid would mean a person or an entity who would help)

Hi iamdivs,

I'm not sure whether this is a complete answer, but we can absolutely "ask {something}" (ask ~ "request" or "seek").

Quick example: both "ask her opinion" and "ask for her opinion" are possible.
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AjiteshArun wrote:
iamdivs wrote:
- you ask for someone's help/aid
- you don't ask someone's aid (here aid would mean a person or an entity who would help)

Hi iamdivs,

I'm not sure whether this is a complete answer, but we can absolutely "ask {something}" (ask ~ "request" or "seek").

Quick example: both "ask her opinion" and "ask for her opinion" are possible.


Sure sorry if I didn't make myself clear what I wanted to say is you don't ask someone 'in something'

You sure can ask someone to do something but not in something or you can ask for someone's help in something but then 'for' would be required. I will appreciate if you could help me understand this question's correct answer. It seems here 'help' is not a person but rather the actual help needed ( as clear from the second part of the sentence)

Thank you!

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Sure sorry if I didn't make myself clear what I wanted to say is you don't ask someone 'in something'

You sure can ask someone to do something but not in something or you can ask for someone's help in something but then 'for' would be required. I will appreciate if you could help me understand this question's correct answer. It seems here 'help' is not a person but rather the actual help needed ( as clear from the second part of the sentence)

Thank you!

I understand your question now. That's not exactly what this sentence is saying.

... were asking the goddess Bona Dea's aid in healing physical and mental ills...
is the same as
... were asking (the goddess Bona Dea's aid in healing physical and mental ills)...
or
... were asking someone's something...
not
... were asking someone in something...

Let's take another look at "ask her opinion". (a) Ask is a verb, (b) her is a possessive pronoun, and (c) opinion is a noun.

In "were asking the goddess Bona Dea's aid in healing physical and mental ills", (a) were asking is a verb, (b) the goddess Bona Dea's is a possessive noun, and (c) aid in healing physical and mental ills is a noun (because of aid). The in that we see there is for aid, not ask.
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Re: Among the objects found in the excavated temple were small terra-cotta [#permalink]
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But in relatively rare cases, there’s nothing else you can do: you just have to fight with the idiom. In this case, it turns out that the GMAT prefers the phrase “aid in healing” over “aid to heal.” The same is true if we replace “aid” with “help”: “help in healing” would apparently be correct on the GMAT, but “help to heal” would not. So (A) is correct, and (E) is wrong.




GMATNinja I think you are wrong on this one... "Help TO" is correct Idiom, "Not Help IN".
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Re: Among the objects found in the excavated temple were small terra-cotta [#permalink]
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What exactly is the 'her' referring to? I believe pronouns cannot refer back to possessive nouns - in which case, here the 'her' must refer back to 'aid', which doesn't make sense.
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Re: Among the objects found in the excavated temple were small terra-cotta [#permalink]
I have a doubt.

In correlative conjunction like not only x but also y, the x part cannot be carried over to the y part.
ex : Not only Jim is crazy but also Jim is fun. // This is correct

Jim not only is crazy but also fun // this is wrong

In above sentence, the deity part is in X part of conjunction, how can you the "her" after 'or' refer back to the deity?

^ Might be a very basic thing that I am missing here, would be great if someone could explain what that is
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Correct Option : A
Original Sentence
Among the objects found in the excavated temple were small terra-cotta effigies left by supplicants who were either asking the goddess Bona Dea's aid in healing physical and mental ills or thanking her for such help.

Correct Idioms :
- either X or Y
- to ask for aid in doing X
Correct Parallelism :
Asking || Thanking
Aid || help

Elimination Process:
(A) in healing physical and mental ills or thanking her for such help - Correct Idiom Correct Parallelism
(B) in healing physical and mental ills and to thank her for helping - Idiom error Parallelism Error
(C) in healing physical and mental ills, and thanking her for helping - Idiom error Parallelism Error
(D) to heal physical and mental ills or to thank her for such help - Idiom error Parallelism Error
(E) to heal physical and mental ills or thanking her for such help - Parallelism Error

Originally posted by 100mitra on 19 Sep 2021, 08:13.
Last edited by 100mitra on 20 Sep 2021, 21:43, edited 1 time in total.
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Correct option A

Most important is to know, what makes idiom correct !
Small small word, which we call Preposition, which some ignore and end up in worng answer selection
with proper knowledge, this hard question can be solved in just 30 sec

Rule 1 : Preposition follow only Noun, Pronoun and Gerund
Rule 2: Understand the usage of some helpful preposition like "to", "for", "of", "in" which are used almost max time in GMAT
Rule 3: Verb-ing and Gerund are different

Preposition "to" when indicating that there is movement from one place to another.
Preposition "for" to talk about a purpose or a reason for something
Preposition "of" when we want to show that people or things relate to other things or peopler
Preposition "In" is defined as inside an area, moving from a point outside to a point inside

Eliminate D, and E
- wrong usage of Preposition "to" with verb "heal"
- Idiom Error Either X or Y
- Parallelism Error - asking not parallel to thank
(D) to heal physical and mental ills or to thank her for such help
(E) to heal physical and mental ills or thanking her for such help

Eliminate B, and C
Parallelsim error - asking || thanking,
Preposition Error - For used for verb "helping"
Idiom Error - Either X or Y
(B) in healing physical and mental ills and to thank her for helping
(C) in healing physical and mental ills, and thanking her for helping

Correct Option
A) in healing physical and mental ills or thanking her for such help
- Healing is a Noun, correct usage of preposition "IN"
- Either X or Y - correct
- Parallelism asking || thanking
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Re: Among the objects found in the excavated temple were small terra-cotta [#permalink]
Aid in is correct idiom so option a
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Among the objects found in the excavated temple were small terra-cotta effigies left by supplicants who were either asking the goddess Bona Dea's aid in healing physical and mental ills or thanking her for such help.



(A) in healing physical and mental ills or thanking her for such help
The meaning and parallelism is perfect therefore let us hang on to it

(B) in healing physical and mental ills and to thank her for helping
healing and thank not parallel , along with the usage of and is distorting the meaning therefore out

(C) in healing physical and mental ills, and thanking her for helping
Similar reasoning as B

(D) to heal physical and mental ills or to thank her for such help
thank isn't the right usage therefore out

(E) to heal physical and mental ills or thanking her for such help
healing should be the right usage therefore out

THerefore IMO A
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Among the objects found in the excavated temple were small terra-cotta effigies left by supplicants who were either asking the goddess Bona Dea's aid in healing physical and mental ills or thanking her for such help.


(A) in healing physical and mental ills or thanking her for such help

(B) in healing physical and mental ills and to thank her for helping

(C) in healing physical and mental ills, and thanking her for helping

(D) to heal physical and mental ills or to thank her for such help

(E) to heal physical and mental ills or thanking her for such help


B, and E break parallelism established in A

C incorrectly uses a second "and", we should see "or" used instead

D is using the incorrect action type "to heal" is a future action, when they want aid currently

A doesn't introduce new errors, correct!
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Among the objects found in the excavated temple were small terra-cotta effigies left by supplicants who were either asking the goddess Bona Dea's aid in healing physical and mental ills or thanking her for such help.


(A) in healing physical and mental ills or thanking her for such help

(B) in healing physical and mental ills and to thank her for helping

(C) in healing physical and mental ills, and thanking her for helping

(D) to heal physical and mental ills or to thank her for such help

(E) to heal physical and mental ills or thanking her for such help


https://www.nytimes.com/1985/04/30/science/women-s-cults-of-antiquity-the-veil-rises.html

Among the objects are small terracotta models of arms as well as wombs and eyes - left by women who were either asking the goddess's aid in healing physical and mental ills or thanking her for such help.


Hello experts,

Between A and E,
Is there any change in meaning when we say-
aid in healing vs
aid to heal??

Seems like there is, but i am not sure how?
Or its just a strict idiom elimination?

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pusht wrote:
Among the objects found in the excavated temple were small terra-cotta effigies left by supplicants who were either asking the goddess Bona Dea's aid in healing physical and mental ills or thanking her for such help.


(A) in healing physical and mental ills or thanking her for such help

(B) in healing physical and mental ills and to thank her for helping

(C) in healing physical and mental ills, and thanking her for helping

(D) to heal physical and mental ills or to thank her for such help

(E) to heal physical and mental ills or thanking her for such help


https://www.nytimes.com/1985/04/30/science/women-s-cults-of-antiquity-the-veil-rises.html

Among the objects are small terracotta models of arms as well as wombs and eyes - left by women who were either asking the goddess's aid in healing physical and mental ills or thanking her for such help.


Hello experts,

Between A and E,
Is there any change in meaning when we say-
aid in healing vs
aid to heal??

Seems like there is, but i am not sure how?
Or its just a strict idiom elimination?

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Hello dcoolguy,

We hope this finds you well.

To answer your query, there is no difference in meaning between Options A and E; "aid + in" is merely the preferred construction.

We hope this helps.
All the best!
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AjiteshArun GMATNinja RonPurewal - i thought "aid to" was correct.

Reason - dont we say :

Quote:
(i) USA is providing aid to Ukraine.
(ii) USA is providing aid to assist Ukraine.


How are you so sure that the above structures [Aid to Ukraine] was not what the author intended to reflect when the author wrote this SC question ?

Is it because == alll 5 answer choices have [Aid to VERB'ING], hence the above structure [(i) and (ii)] -- is not the intended meaning of the author's ?

If so, then dont we say the following --
Also,
Quote:
(iii) Do you need help in finishing your homework ?
vs
(iv) Do you need help to finish your homework ?


I dont know what this difference in meaning is -- both structure [help in finishing vs help to finish], both seem fine to me. I dont know what the difference is
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