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Is $$\frac{x + 1}{y + 1} > \frac{x}{y}$$?

(1) $$0 < x < y$$

(2) $$xy > 0$$

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Bunuel wrote:
Is $$\frac{x + 1}{y + 1} > \frac{x}{y}$$?

(1) $$0 < x < y$$

(2) $$xy > 0$$

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We'll simplify the inequalities so we understand what we need to do.
This is a Precise approach.

(1) Multiplying both sides by y(y+1) (note that both are positive), gives yx+y > yx+x and cancelling out yx gives y > x.
This is exactly what we're told in our statement!
Sufficient.

(2) If y(y+1) is positive we can repeat the same process as above to get y > x, but since all we know is that both x,y are positive or both are negative but do not know which is larger we cannot answer.
If y(y+1) is negative we'll get the expression y < x, but, for the same reason as above, we still cannot answer.
Insufficient

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Bunuel wrote:
Is $$\frac{x + 1}{y + 1} > \frac{x}{y}$$?

This can be re-written as $$\frac{x + 1}{y + 1} - \frac{x}{y}$$ > 0

Simplifying this further, we get

$$\frac{(x + 1)y - x(y - 1)}{y(y + 1)} > 0$$ -> $$\frac{xy + y - xy + x}{y(y+1)} > 0$$ -> $$\frac{x+y}{y(y+1)} > 0$$

The rephrased question now reads $$\frac{x+y}{y(y+1)} > 0$$

(1) $$0 < x < y$$
Since x and y are both positive, the expression will always be positive. (Sufficient)

(2) $$xy > 0$$
Here, both x and y can be positive or negative. If x and y are negative,
the expression is NOT positive. We don't get a unique answer. (Insufficient) (Option A)
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Bunuel wrote:
Is $$\frac{x + 1}{y + 1} > \frac{x}{y}$$?

(1) $$0 < x < y$$

(2) $$xy > 0$$

Target question: Is (x+1)/(y+1) > x/y ?

Statement 1: 0 < x < y
This tells us that y is POSITIVE, which means y+1 is also POSITIVE.
This means we can safely take the inequality (x+1)/(y+1) > x/y and safely multiply both sides by y
When we do so, we get: (y)(x+1)/(y+1) > x
We can also multiply both sides by y+1 to get: (y)(x+1) > (x)(y+1)
Expand to get: xy + y > xy + x
Subtract xy from both sides to get: y > x
So, with the help of statement 1, our original target question Is (x+1)/(y+1) > x/y ? becomes Is y > x ?
Since statement 1 tells us that y > x, the answer to the target question is a definitive YES
Since we can answer the target question with certainty, statement 1 is SUFFICIENT

Statement 2: xy > 0
Let's TEST some values
There are several values of x and y that satisfy statement 2 (xy > 0). Here are two:
Case a: x = 1 and y = 1. In this case, (x+1)/(y+1) = (1+1)/(1+1) = 2/2 = 1, and x/y = 1/1 = 1. So, the answer to the target question is NO, (x+1)/(y+1) is NOT greater than x/y ?
Case b: x = -3 and y = -2. In this case, (x+1)/(y+1) = (-3 +1)/(-2 +1) = -2/-1 = 2, and x/y = -3/-2 = 3/2. So, the answer to the target question is YES, (x+1)/(y+1) IS greater than x/y ?
Since we cannot answer the target question with certainty, statement 2 is NOT SUFFICIENT

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Dear Bunuel DavidTutorexamPAL GMATPrepNow pushpitkc

How can we cross multiply in this question, when we are not aware of the signs of x and y?

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Dear Bunuel DavidTutorexamPAL GMATPrepNow pushpitkc

How can we cross multiply in this question, when we are not aware of the signs of x and y?

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Hey FANewJersey, good question! In 1) we do know the sign: we are told that 0 < x < y - this means they are both bigger than 0 - they are positive!
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Hi DavidTutorexamPAL,
So basically you are reading ahead to get an idea and then applying something from the statements to firm up your stem question (is x less than y). Correct?
Warmly,
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Dear Bunuel DavidTutorexamPAL GMATPrepNow pushpitkc

How can we cross multiply in this question, when we are not aware of the signs of x and y?

Warm Regards,
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Hey FANewJersey, good question! In 1) we do know the sign: we are told that 0 < x < y - this means they are both bigger than 0 - they are positive!
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Hi DavidTutorexamPAL,
So basically you are reading ahead to get an idea and then applying something from the statements to firm up your stem question (is x less than y). Correct?
Warmly,
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FANewJersey wrote:
Dear Bunuel DavidTutorexamPAL GMATPrepNow pushpitkc

How can we cross multiply in this question, when we are not aware of the signs of x and y?

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Hey FANewJersey, good question! In 1) we do know the sign: we are told that 0 < x < y - this means they are both bigger than 0 - they are positive!

You could say that, I suppose... I don't think of it as "reading ahead" since solving with statement (1) is the first thing we are supposed to try and do anyway. The question stem on its own isn't going to give us the answer....
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Thanks DavidTutorexamPAL, But we will have to nail down a goal, which we drive from the stem question (value vs. Yes/No, what is being asked etc. etc.). But I believe I got the idea here. Thanks
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Bunuel wrote:
Is $$\frac{x + 1}{y + 1} > \frac{x}{y}$$?

(1) $$0 < x < y$$

(2) $$xy > 0$$

NEW question from GMAT® Official Guide 2019

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SIMPLIFY THE EQUATION QUESTION:
(X+1)/(Y+1) > X/Y
Y(X+1) > X(Y+1)
XY+Y>XY+X (cancel out "XY" from both sides of the inequality)
Y>X

RESTATING THE QUESTION: IS Y>X?
STATEMENT 1: $$0 < x < y$$
YES. SUFFICIENT

STATEMENT 2 : $$xy > 0$$
This statement leaves 2 variables unknown.
Therefore, it could be a YES or a NO case. IN-SUFFICIENT
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