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E. an equal number as were offered last year,
Why is E is wrong?
Becos, ‘an equal number’ is singular and ‘were offered’ is plural.



Is E not also wrong because the modifier after the comma ",using...." modifies incorrectly the clause that comes before it ?
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E. an equal number as were offered last year,
Why is E is wrong?
Becos, ‘an equal number’ is singular and ‘were offered’ is plural.



Is E not also wrong because the modifier after the comma ",using...." modifies incorrectly the clause that comes before it ?


Yes, you are right. Here "using" is wrongly used as a present participle modifier. Option D is the OA. Here "using" is not a present participle modifier, but a gerund parallel to "offering". These two gerunds are joined by the conjunction "but". The structure in D is as follows:

.. by offering but using..
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E as expanded

Many airline carriers are attempting to increase profitability while keeping overhead low by offering, in terms of flights, an equal number as were offered last year, using larger planes that fly more efficiently.

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Is E not also wrong because the modifier after the comma ",using...." modifies incorrectly the clause that comes before it ?



To delve into this further, can you kindly clarify what exactly is the previous clause you are referring to and what the subject and verb of that clause are.

As far as I see, there is only one clause in the topic namely, " Many airline carriers are attempting to increase profitability" and the rest are all a bundle of nested modifiers that modify the airline carriers and their efforts to increase profitability in the end.
So, what is the hitch in the modification, please?
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E as expanded

Many airline carriers are attempting to increase profitability while keeping overhead low by offering, in terms of flights, an equal number as were offered last year, using larger planes that fly more efficiently.

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Is E not also wrong because the modifier after the comma ",using...." modifies incorrectly the clause that comes before it ?



To delve into this further, can you kindly clarify what exactly is the previous clause you are referring to and what the subject and verb of that clause are.

As far as I see, there is only one clause in the topic namely, " Many airline carriers are attempting to increase profitability" and the rest are all a bundle of nested modifiers that modify the airline carriers and their efforts to increase profitability in the end.
So, what is the hitch in the modification, please?



I see what you mean.. What you're saying makes total sense. I can see that using as a VERB-ING modifier for "Many airline carriers are attempting to increase profitability" makes sense.
So we reject E because of the faults:

1. an equal number and "were" (plural) do not go along together
2. We are using "were" in the answer choice, but we do not have a form of "be" in the part before

Is that correct ? Thanks for the insights, I appreciate them
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I see what you mean. What you're saying makes total sense. I can see that using as a VERB-ING modifier for "Many airline carriers are attempting to increase profitability" makes sense.
So we reject E because of the faults:

1. an equal number and "were" (plural) do not go along together
2. We are using "were" in the answer choice, but we do not have a form of "be" in the part before

Is that correct? Thanks for the insights, I appreciate them


Yes. You are right..Since the first part is in active voice and the second part in passive voice, this is going against //ism. For this reason, even 'was offered ' might be wrong, strictly speaking. Perhaps one might say,
"Many airline carriers are attempting to increase profitability while keeping overhead low by offering, in terms of flights, an equal number (as) they offered last year, using larger planes that fly more efficiently"
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Perhaps one might say,
"Many airline carriers are attempting to increase profitability while keeping overhead low by offering, in terms of flights, an equal number (as) they offered last year, using larger planes that fly more efficiently"

I feel this is saying that

they offered last year, using larger planes that fly more efficiently

This is suggesting that last year, they used larger planes. The sentence wants to say that this year, they used larger planes.

Is my understanding correct?
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I am afraid not. If the larger planes were used last year, then the profitability would have been higher last year. How will they use smaller planes this year and still lift the profitability? It might help to remember that last year essentially modifies the number of flights. That is the difference between setting off with the comma and not setting off, the essence of adverbial modification.
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Many airline carriers are attempting to increase profitability while keeping overhead low by offering, in terms of flights,an equal amount as last year, doing so by using larger planes that fly more efficiently.

A. an equal amount as last year,doing so by
B. the same number offered last year
C. an equal amount offered last year and
D. the same number as last year but
E. an equal number as were offered last year,

Amount:when the entity is not countable or abstract noun.
Number:when the entity is countable
(eg money not countable:amount,Dollars is countable:number)
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Sir,please explain why b is wrong here


The meaning is changed - option B implies that larger planes were used last year, but the intended meaning is that larger planes are used this year.
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Many airline carriers are attempting to increase profitability while keeping overhead low by offering, in terms of flights,an equal amount as last year, doing so by using larger planes that fly more efficiently.

A. an equal amount as last year,doing so by
B. the same number offered last year
C. an equal amount offered last year and
D. the same number as last year but
E. an equal number as were offered last year,

I am confused where to use amount and when to use number?


this question test the use of "the same ... as".

"the same ... as" is different from other comparisons. the pattern with " the same ...as" alway give us the feeling that the sentence is wrong.
we do not say,
I have the same pen as your pen.
but we say
I have the same pen as you. (this dose not mean "pen" is compared with "you". in this correct pattern, there is no preposition after "as" and we get the feel that the sentence is wrong. this point is the reason for which I say this pattern is different from other comparisons.

I am stronger in summer than in winter. I am better at gmat than he is
Here, we have "in" before "winter" and "is" in second clause and so, we realize quickly that the sentence is correct because comparison elements have prepositions or helping verbs which make those elements clear.

so, definitely "the same as last year", " the same as you" are all correct. and remember, in "the same ...as" pattern, we normally do not have preposition and helping verb, and, so, the absence is the reason for which you feel the sentence is wrong.

in short, the absence of preposition or helping verb is specialty of the pattern "the same ...as".

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Could someone please provide details on the use of "as" in D?

Please correct me if I'm wrong. I understand this comparison as an application of ellipsis method:

...while keeping overhead low by offering, in terms of flights, an equal amount as [keeping overhead low by offering] last year, but using larger planes that fly more efficiently
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I find a slight confusion in your query. Your query is about choice D and there is nothing as an equal amount as last year in D. It only says the same number as last year. Are you referring to C? If you say that choice D stands on ellipsis, can you please state what are the appropriate words that are elided. This may help us to understand your query more clearly.
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Thank you for reply

I mean the use of "as"in D answer choice:
Is there any idiom of same as
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is "as" used for comparison?

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Could someone please provide details on the use of "as" in D?

Please correct me if I'm wrong. I understand this comparison as an application of ellipsis method:

...while keeping overhead low by offering, in terms of flights, an equal amount as [keeping overhead low by offering] last year, but using larger planes that fly more efficiently

I'm not 100% sure that I'm interpreting your question correctly, but here is the sentence using choice (D):

"Many airline carriers are attempting to increase profitability while keeping overhead low by offering, in terms of flights, the same number as last year but using larger planes that fly more efficiently."

The "as" construction compares the number of flights, not the amount of keeping overhead low (i.e. "... keeping overhead low by offering the same number [of flights] as last year). In other words, the number of flights offered in the present year is equal to the number of flights offered last year.

I hope this helps!
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I'm not 100% sure that I'm interpreting your question correctly, but here is the sentence using choice (D):

"Many airline carriers are attempting to increase profitability while keeping overhead low by offering, in terms of flights, the same number as last year but using larger planes that fly more efficiently."

The "as" construction compares the number of flights, not the amount of keeping overhead low (i.e. "... keeping overhead low by offering the same number [of flights] as last year). In other words, the number of flights offered in the present year is equal to the number of flights offered last year.

I hope this helps!


Hello GMATNinja!

In option D aren't we comparing the same number with last year ??
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Here is my analysis,
Firstly, we are talking about the number of flights, which is countable and hence options A and C are out. (Both of them use "amount")
Option B: the same number offered last year using larger planes that can..... There is a clear shift in meaning here. "Using larger planes..." now modifies "Last year". However, the original sentence wants to communicate that it is the current year when the airlines are using larger planes.
Option E: an equal number as were offered last year : This choice has a clear pronoun number disagreement. It uses "were" to compare itself with a singular noun "an equal number". Eliminate option E
Option D: Remember at this point, we have eliminated all the remaining choices successfully. In real GMAT, at this point it's better to select it and move on than to ponder about why should it be a correct answer. Assuming that now you are doing a thorough review of your mock, you need to know precisely why is this the correct option!

My opinion: At first glance, the choice might seem to have a comparison error. However, when I re-read the complete answer, I could justify the choice as correct. The sentence uses "by offering, in terms of flights," to make it clear that we are comparing the number of flight and nothing else. Hence, in strictly meaning perspective, this choice is sufficiently clear.
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Many airline carriers are attempting to increase profitability while keeping overhead low by offering, in terms of flights, an equal amount as last year, doing so by using larger planes that fly more efficiently.

A. an equal amount as last year,doing so by -- usage of amount is incorrect
B. the same number offered last year -- changes meaning -- the same number offered last year using larger planes changes the meaning
C. an equal amount offered last year and -- usage of amount is incorrect
D. the same number as last year but
E. an equal number as were offered last year, - number is singular and were is plural

In OA - D , aren't we comparing the same number as last year ?
Also, for ellipsis , isn't it necessary that the elided part is present in verbatim form earlier in the sentence ?

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Many airline carriers are attempting to increase profitability while keeping overhead low by offering, in terms of flights, an equal amount as last year, doing so by using larger planes that fly more efficiently.

A. an equal amount as last year,doing so by -- usage of amount is incorrect
B. the same number offered last year -- changes meaning -- the same number offered last year using larger planes changes the meaning
C. an equal amount offered last year and -- usage of amount is incorrect
D. the same number as last year but
E. an equal number as were offered last year, - number is singular and were is plural

In OA - D , aren't we comparing the same number as last year ?
Also, for ellipsis , isn't it necessary that the elided part is present in verbatim form earlier in the sentence ?

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Hi Skywalker18!

Here, the comparison is between the number of flights this year and the number of flights last year. Some of those words are omitted for clarity, but there is no problem with the construction :-) See victory47's post earlier for an explanation of the comparison here!

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Hello Skywalker18,

Thank you for the PM on this one. :-)


Let's take a look at the sentence with the correct answer choice: Many airline carriers are attempting to increase profitability while keeping overhead low by offering, in terms of flights, the same number as last year but using larger planes that fly more efficiently.

Pay attention to the phrase in terms of flights in the non-underlined portion of the sentence. This phrase already implies that the same number pertains to the same number of flights. The phrase of flights is already present in the sentence.

The same usage is applicable to the phrase last year that actually implies the number of flights lat year.

So you see all the words elided in Choice D is already present in the sentence.


Hope this helps. :-)
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