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Thank you so much for your suggestions. I’m still super worried but really appreciate all your help.

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More than just study all the subjects, I focused on two main problems:
1) How am I managing my time? Do I spend a lot of time on a hard question? Do I know how to choose numbers? Or how to choose which answer option I should pick to test my answer?

2) Which subjects I have more difficulty with? For me, it was Geometry in Quanti and, because English is not my mother language, Verbal was hard at all.
(After I understand how Critical Reasoning works, it became super easy to do CR questions. My first GMAT I took 33 at Verbal. The second GMAT I took 40 at Verbal, mostly because of CR questions).

So, more than choose the best platform to study, you need to understand what are your weak points.
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Hi Sammyatlantis,

To start, many MBA Programs expect Applicants to have at least 2-3 years (and sometimes more) of quality Work Experience (with Leadership roles, etc.). There are plenty of exceptions, of course, but if this School is your first-choice Program, then we have to keep focused on the goal of getting you in (and not 'rushing in' an application if there are any aspects to your profile that might hinder your chances). As such, you would likely find it beneficial to speak with an Admissions Expert about your overall profile and plans. Those Experts should be able to answer your Admissions questions and help define the specific areas of your profile that could use some improvement.

There's a Forum full of those Experts here:

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Your initial 570 CAT Score was a solid initial performance (the average score on the Official GMAT hovers around 550 most years) and your 2nd Score is a reasonable improvement. From what you've described, your overall study plan is "book heavy." Unfortunately, many GMATers who study in that way end up getting 'stuck' at a particular score level. Even the best books are limited in what they can teach you; they also can't force you to approach questions in a certain way and their explanations are often one-sided. As such, you would likely find it beneficial to invest in some new, non-book study materials for this next phase of your studies.

Before I can offer you the specific advice that you’re looking for, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on how you've been studying and your goals:

1) How long have you studied so far? How many hours do you typically study each week?
2) Are you planning to take the At-home GMAT or will you take your GMAT at a Test Center?
3) Going forward, how many hours do you think you can consistently study each week?

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Sammyatlantis wrote:
Hi;
I’m a fresh graduate and plan to apply to UOFT’s MBA program next September (2021). However, since I will have only about a year of work experience, I’m aware that I will need a 700+ score to have a decent chance at getting in.

I first took a diagnostic test (GMAT practice 1) with no prep in which I scored a 570 (Q36, V33) and then I proceeded to use GMAT’s official guide and when I completed the entire book I took GMAT practice test 2 and scored 610 (Q43, V30). This left me really worried making me wonder if it really is possible for me to get to the 700 mark.

I have with me GMAT official’s quantitative and verbal review that I plan to attack next as well as Manhattan prep’s All the verbal, All the quant and Integrated reasoning and essay books.

I’d be so grateful if somebody could guide me and help me out with the most effective strategy for me to crack a 700+ score. I really do want to get into my dream university and I know I’m willing to put in the hard work I just don’t know how to approach it.

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Your Q score improved from Q36 to Q43 and this is a good improvement. If you continue to work then you will improve further.

With Verbal it may take time. Why don't you make a note of the mistakes that you made and work on your weak areas and give a practice test again and report back with your scores?

Originally posted by CAMANISHPARMAR on 01 Aug 2020, 22:29.
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Thank you so much for all your help guys!!
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To answer your questions Mr. Rich,

1) On total I've studied 36 hours in the past month, so about 9 hours per week.
2)I plan to take the exam at a GMAT test centre
3) I am currently not working (Until September 1st) so I assume for this month I could study even 28 hours per week (4 per day)
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Sammyatlantis wrote:
Hi;
I’m a fresh graduate and plan to apply to UOFT’s MBA program next September (2021). However, since I will have only about a year of work experience, I’m aware that I will need a 700+ score to have a decent chance at getting in.

I first took a diagnostic test (GMAT practice 1) with no prep in which I scored a 570 (Q36, V33) and then I proceeded to use GMAT’s official guide and when I completed the entire book I took GMAT practice test 2 and scored 610 (Q43, V30). This left me really worried making me wonder if it really is possible for me to get to the 700 mark.

I have with me GMAT official’s quantitative and verbal review that I plan to attack next as well as Manhattan prep’s All the verbal, All the quant and Integrated reasoning and essay books.

I’d be so grateful if somebody could guide me and help me out with the most effective strategy for me to crack a 700+ score. I really do want to get into my dream university and I know I’m willing to put in the hard work I just don’t know how to approach it.

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Hi,

First of all, it is good that you started seeking suggestions right before you start your preparation. This will save you a lot of time and effort. Most students generally start self-study using random resources and realize half-way through that they need to have a proper study plan and use a standard resource to score well on GMAT and then start seeking advices. Let me share my insights here on what could be the best plan for you.

As you are in the initial stages of your preparation, an ideal study plan for you should be to:
  • Learn the concepts. (Start with your stronger topic which you can identify once you take the mock)
  • Learn the right methodology to solve the questions of that topic.
  • Take sectional quizzes of that topic and make sure to move to the next topic only if you got easy-medium questions right.
  • If you feel there is a scope for improvement, make sure to work on the weaker areas and then move to the next topic.

Follow the above steps for every topic and once you are done with all the topics, start taking mocks once a week. Analyze the score pattern and identify the weaker areas. Work on the weaker areas and make sure you master them before you take the next mock. Once you see a consistent score pattern, you are good to book a slot.

What should you focus on while preparing?


Looking at your scores, I feel there is a scope of improvement in both quant and verbal. Before starting out your preparation, it is important to know what is really tested on GMAT. Knowing this will help you focus on what exactly is needed to score a 700+ on GMAT. GMAT quant tests only specific types of questions from each topic. Knowing the question types and understanding the right methodology to solve questions will help you score well on quant.

Coming to verbal, Verbal questions can be very tricky and test makers set a lot of traps to confuse students. They use similar words in the answer choices and there are high chances that you will be stuck with two or more choices. To answer them perfectly, it is really important to have a strong understanding of the concepts and to use the right methodology to solve questions. Let me explain it to you from the perspective of individual modules of Verbal.
  • To solve SC questions, it is important to approach them from a meaning stand-point because it is the meaning which is tested not the grammatical rules. You can understand the gist of the approach by watching the following video.


  • To solve CR questions, it is really important to develop the ability to pre-think. And to do that, you need to have a strong understanding of the underlying framework. This will help you pre-think the underlying assumption before jumping into the answer choices. Refer to the following video to understand the same.


  • To solve RC questions, you have to read the passage with an open mind, leaving all the unnecessary baggage. You need to read the passage in an inferential manner so that you can draw the right inferences and understand the intention behind writing the passage. There is a process called “Involved and Evolved Reading” which helps you read a passage effectively. You can refer to the following video to understand the strategy of “Involved and Evolved Reading”.



Is it better to rely on random resources or a standard resource?


Most students start their GMAT preparation using OG and a few other study materials. While these are great resources for GMAT like questions, it is really important to ask whether just practicing questions would help you get a good score on GMAT. Most students realize it very late that GMAT is not just a test of concepts but a test of their application. To apply the concepts well, you need to learn the right approach to do that.

Below is the comparison of what you’ll probably do when you prepare using random resources and a standard one


Random resourcesStandard resource
Solve “N” number of questionsLearn the concepts and the methodology
Refer to vague solutionsRefer to detailed solutions
No change in approach and will be stuck at the same scoreA significant improvement can be achieved by referring to the step-by-step solutions and there by learning the right methodology


As it is really important to use the right methodology to solve questions on GMAT, I think you might have understood the importance of using a standard resource. The best way to select the course is to check the free trial of the course and then decide whether it is suitable for you or not. There are plenty of online courses available, so, I would recommend to check the free trial of the courses you feel are suitable for you and then decide.

If you are open to suggestions, I would like you to take a check at the course of GMATWhiz.
  • It is one unique course which offers you the best quality content and employs an artificial intelligence driven learning.
  • It offers you a personalized study plan which is integrated with the course. The concept booster and practice quizzes after every concept video help you solve GMAT like questions using the right methodology.
  • It offers you real time improvement modules so that you can work on your weaker areas right away.

There are many more exciting features offered by the course. I would recommend you to check the free trial of GMATWhiz before taking the decision.Hope it helped! If you have any more concerns regarding the GMAT preparation or wish to know more about study strategy, you can always write back or a better way would be to discuss over a call. You can schedule a free consultation call using the below link.

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Hi Sammyatlantis,

I’m glad you reached out, and I’m happy to help. To improve your GMAT score, you need to follow a study plan that allows you to learn GMAT quant and verbal from the ground up. In other words, follow a study plan in which you individually learn each topic, starting with the foundations and progressing to more advanced concepts. Let me expand on this idea further.

If you are learning about Number Properties, you should develop as much conceptual knowledge about Number Properties as possible. In other words, your goal will be to completely understand properties of factorials, perfect squares, quadratic patterns, LCM, GCF, units digit patterns, divisibility, and remainders, to name a few concepts. After carefully reviewing the conceptual underpinnings of how to answer Number Properties questions, practice by answering 50 or more questions just from Number Properties. When you do dozens of questions of the same type one after the other, you learn just what it takes to get questions of that type correct consistently. If you aren't getting close to 90 percent of questions of a certain type correct, go back and seek to better understand how that type of question works, and then do more questions of that type until you get to around at least 90 percent accuracy in your training. If you get 100 percent of some sets correct, even better. Number Properties is just one example; follow this process for all quant topics.

When you are working on learning to answer questions of a particular type, start off taking your time, and then seek to speed up as you get more comfortable answering questions of that type. As you do such practice, do a thorough analysis of each question that you don't get right. If you got a remainder question wrong, ask yourself why. Did you make a careless mistake? Did you not properly apply the remainder formula? Was there a concept you did not understand in the question? By carefully analyzing your mistakes, you will be able to efficiently fix your weaknesses and in turn improve your GMAT quant skills.
Each time you strengthen your understanding of a topic and your skill in answering questions of a particular type, you increase your odds of hitting your score goal. You know that there are types of questions that you are happy to see, types that you would rather not see, and types that you take a long time to answer correctly. Learn to more effectively answer the types of questions that you would rather not see, and make them into your favorite types. Learn to correctly answer in two minutes or less questions that you currently take five minutes to answer. By finding, say, a dozen weaker quant areas and turning them into strong areas, you will make great progress toward hitting your quant score goal. If a dozen areas turn out not to be enough, strengthen some more areas.

Follow a similar routine for verbal. For example, let’s say you start by learning about Critical Reasoning. Your first goal is to fully master the individual topics: Strengthen the Argument, Weaken The Argument, Resolve the Paradox, etc. As you learn about each question type, do focused practice, so that you can track your skill in answering each type. If, for example, you get a weakening question wrong, ask yourself why. Did you make a careless mistake? Did you not recognize the specific question type? Were you doing too much analysis in your head? Did you skip over a keyword in an answer choice? You must thoroughly analyze your mistakes and seek to turn weaknesses into strengths by focusing on the question types you dread seeing and the questions you take a long time to answer correctly.

When practicing Reading Comprehension, you need to develop a reading strategy that is both efficient and thorough. Reading too fast and not understanding what you have read are equally as harmful as reading too slow and using up too much time. When attacking Reading Comprehension passages, you must have one clear goal in mind: to understand the context of what you are reading. However, you must do so efficiently, so you need to avoid getting bogged down in the details of each paragraph and instead focus on understanding the main point of each paragraph. That being said, do not fall into the trap of thinking that you can just read the intro and the conclusion and thereby comprehend the main idea of a paragraph. As you read a paragraph, consider how the context of the paragraph relates to previous paragraphs, so you can continue developing your overall understanding of the passage. Furthermore, as you practice Reading Comprehension, focus on the exact types of questions with which you struggle: Find the Main Idea, Inference, Author’s Tone, etc. As with Critical Reasoning, analyze your incorrect Reading Comprehension answers to better determine why you tend to get a particular question type wrong, and then improve upon your weaknesses. Keep in mind that GMAT Reading Comprehension passages are not meant to be easy to read. So, to better prepare yourself to analyze such passages, read magazines with similar content and style, such as the New York Times, Scientific American, and Smithsonian.

Sentence Correction is a bit of a different animal compared to Reading Comprehension and Critical Reasoning. There are three aspects to getting correct answers to GMAT Sentence Correction questions: what you know, such as grammar rules, what you see, such as violations of grammar rules and the logic of sentence structure, and what you do, such as carefully considering each answer choice in the context of the non-underlined portion of the sentence. To drive up your Sentence Correction score, you likely will have to work on all three of those aspects.

Regarding what you know, first and foremost, you MUST know your grammar rules. Let's be clear, though: GMAT Sentence Correction is not really a test of knowledge of grammar rules. The reason for learning the grammar rules is so that you can determine what sentences convey and whether sentences are well-constructed. In fact, in many cases, incorrect answers to Sentence Correction questions are grammatically flawless. Thus, often your task is to use your knowledge of grammar rules to determine which answer choice creates the most logical sentence meaning and structure.

This determination of whether sentences are well-constructed and logical is the second aspect of finding correct answers to Sentence Correction questions, what you see. To develop this skill, you probably have to slow way down. You won't develop this skill by spending less than two minutes per question. For a while, anyway, you have to spend time with each question, maybe even ten or fifteen minutes on one question sometimes, analyzing every answer choice until you see the details that you have to see in order to choose the correct answer. As you go through the answer choices, consider the meaning conveyed by each version of the sentence. Does the meaning make sense? Even if you can tell what the version is SUPPOSED to convey, does the version really convey that meaning? Is there a verb to go with the subject? Do all pronouns clearly refer to nouns? By slowing way down and looking for these details, you learn to see what you have to see in order to clearly understand which answer to a Sentence Correction question is correct.

There is only one correct answer to any Sentence Correction question, there are clear reasons why that choice is correct and the others are not, and none of those reasons are that the correct version simply "sounds right." In fact, the correct version often sounds a little off at first. That correct answers may sound a little off is not surprising. If the correct answers were always the ones that sounded right, then most people most of the time would get Sentence Correction questions correct, without really knowing why the wrong answers were wrong and the correct answers were correct. So, you have to go beyond choosing what "sounds right" and learn to clearly see the logical reasons why one choice is better than all of the others.

As for the third aspect of getting Sentence Correction questions correct, what you do, the main thing you have to do is be very careful. You have to make sure that you are truly considering the structures of sentences and the meanings conveyed rather than allowing yourself to be tricked into choosing trap answers that sound right but don't convey logical meanings. You also have to make sure that you put some real energy into finding the correct answers. Finding the correct answer to a Sentence Correction question may take bouncing from choice to choice until you start to see the differences that make all choices wrong except for one. Often, when you first look at the choices, only one or two seem obviously incorrect. Getting the right answers takes a certain work ethic. You have to take the time to see the differences between answers and to figure out the precise reasons that one choice is correct.

To improve what you do when you answer Sentence Correction questions, seek to become aware of how you are going about answering them. Are you being careful and looking for logic and details, or are you quickly eliminating choices that sound a little off, and then choosing the best of the rest? If you choose an incorrect answer, consider what you did to arrive at that answer and what you could do differently to arrive at correct answers more consistently. Furthermore, see how many questions you can get correct in a row as you practice. If you break your streak by missing one, consider what you could do differently to extend your streak.

As with your Critical Reasoning and Reading Comprehension regimens, after learning a particular Sentence Correction topic, engage in focused practice with 30 questions or more that involve that topic. As your skills improve, you will want to practice with questions that test you on skills from multiple Sentence Correction topics.

In order to follow the path described above, you may need some new quant and verbal materials, so take a look at the GMAT Club reviews for the best quant and verbal courses. You also may find it helpful to read the following article about The Phases of Preparing for the GMAT.

Feel free to reach out with any further questions. Good luck!
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Hi Sammyatlantis,

Raising a 610 to the point that you can consistently score 700+ will likely require at least another 2 months of consistent, guided study - and you'll have to make significant improvements to how you handle BOTH the Quant and Verbal sections. Thankfully, the GMAT is a consistent, predictable Exam, so you CAN train to score at a higher level.

I have a couple of follow-up questions about your timeframe:

1) Are you planning to apply to School THIS year for a 2021 start OR are you planning to apply NEXT cycle (in the fall/winter of 2021)?
2) When are you planning to take your Official GMAT?

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Thank you so much everyone for all the assistance! It means a lot.

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To answer your questions Mr. Rich,

1) I’m planning to apply for the next cycle (fall/ winter) but I understand I’ll have to apply by Jan 5th for a round 2 application.
2) I plan to write the GMAT exam sometime in October before I get too busy with work commitments.

Thank you

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