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Hi Everyone,

I am in a unique situation and need your help/ thoughts on this:

I had applied for a 2 year MBA, but have been waitlisted for 1 year program.

From what I see, I have 2 options:

Option 1. I point the error out to them.

I believe two things can happen here:

a. They might take me off the waitlist for 1 year (as they might feel I might not be interested in 1 year program) and reject me for the 2 year program as well to avoid the hassle.

b. They move me to the 2 year waitlist. In this case, my peer group would be different, evaluation process might be different, scoring might be different. I am not sure if they would re-evaluate me completely again. I dont know if this is even a possiblity.

Some basic stats from 2012:
1 year MBA: 500 applicants, 100 admits (I believe a higher quality apps here attributable to higher savings, lack of any alternatives in terms of 1 yr programs from other top schools)
2 year MBA: 4500 applicants, 550 admits

Option 2. I provide updates and reiterate an interest in 1 year program:

Not sure how this would work out. I am not sure how much movement there is on 1 year MBA waitlist. Kellogg pretty much has a monopoly in this space and there might be very few dropouts. Based on some observation on Gmatclub, even a stanford admit was waiting for waitlist results from Kellogg 1 year program.

Any thoughts on how to proceed?

PS: An MBA is very critical for me at this juncture for further career progression.


I would figure out who your waitlist manager is and give them a call. You probably need to get on the waitlist you're supposed to be on - I don't think there's any gaming the system on this mistake here.
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giusippe wrote:
Hi Everyone,

I am in a unique situation and need your help/ thoughts on this:

I had applied for a 2 year MBA, but have been waitlisted for 1 year program.

From what I see, I have 2 options:

Option 1. I point the error out to them.

I believe two things can happen here:

a. They might take me off the waitlist for 1 year (as they might feel I might not be interested in 1 year program) and reject me for the 2 year program as well to avoid the hassle.

b. They move me to the 2 year waitlist. In this case, my peer group would be different, evaluation process might be different, scoring might be different. I am not sure if they would re-evaluate me completely again. I dont know if this is even a possiblity.

Some basic stats from 2012:
1 year MBA: 500 applicants, 100 admits (I believe a higher quality apps here attributable to higher savings, lack of any alternatives in terms of 1 yr programs from other top schools)
2 year MBA: 4500 applicants, 550 admits

Option 2. I provide updates and reiterate an interest in 1 year program:

Not sure how this would work out. I am not sure how much movement there is on 1 year MBA waitlist. Kellogg pretty much has a monopoly in this space and there might be very few dropouts. Based on some observation on Gmatclub, even a stanford admit was waiting for waitlist results from Kellogg 1 year program.

Any thoughts on how to proceed?

PS: An MBA is very critical for me at this juncture for further career progression.


I would figure out who your waitlist manager is and give them a call. You probably need to get on the waitlist you're supposed to be on - I don't think there's any gaming the system on this mistake here.


Agreed. I think you should tell your waitlist manager about the mistake. They will review your application again next month and I am sure they will notice that you applied to the 2 year anyway. If they were going to get to the point where they were going to offer you admission, they definitely would have looked at your application close enough to notice it was for the 2 year program. Any chance the letter said they thought you would be a better fit for the 1-year or just that you are on the 1-yr waitlist?
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Hey all. RD 2 waitlister here as well. Question: so I live in the Chicago area but have never made the trip up to Evanston for a school visit (multiple reasons, including work obligations, a torn ACL, and the fact that I know a lot of Kellogg graduates that I've spoken to about the school so I think I have a pretty solid idea of the culture already). Do you guys think it makes a lot of sense to try to take a day off work and get up to Evanston this week prior to contacting the WL manager next week? It is kind of pain for me to do since I'm hobbling around on crutches right now and have had to take a lot of time off work recently for surgery and recovery, but if it could be a make-or-break question if it comes up when speaking to the WL manager, I could wince through a class visit, info session, etc.


Bums about the torn ACL, I had that a few years ago, definitely a long recovery. I do think it would be a good idea to go to campus, however, I don't think you need to do it before you call your waitlist manager. They will likely tell you they will be reviewing your application at the end of April or some time like that so if you have any updates to send before then. So I think it would be better if you visited before you sent your update and then mentioned how great your visit was in your update. That should give you enough time to be a little more mobile. Even though you have friends who are alums, it can't hurt to mention your impressions from the class you visited or discussions with current students who have similar career interests.
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Agreed. I think you should tell your waitlist manager about the mistake. They will review your application again next month and I am sure they will notice that you applied to the 2 year anyway. If they were going to get to the point where they were going to offer you admission, they definitely would have looked at your application close enough to notice it was for the 2 year program. Any chance the letter said they thought you would be a better fit for the 1-year or just that you are on the 1-yr waitlist?


They just said, I am on the 1 yr waitlist!

I just hope they would review my application if I point this out to them... instead of rejecting me outright!
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Dakells wrote:
Agreed. I think you should tell your waitlist manager about the mistake. They will review your application again next month and I am sure they will notice that you applied to the 2 year anyway. If they were going to get to the point where they were going to offer you admission, they definitely would have looked at your application close enough to notice it was for the 2 year program. Any chance the letter said they thought you would be a better fit for the 1-year or just that you are on the 1-yr waitlist?


They just said, I am on the 1 yr waitlist!

I just hope they would review my application if I point this out to them... instead of rejecting me outright!


Who knows, they could do the opposite and accept you outright! I really don't think they would reject you without first reviewing you again, especially since they've made a mistake. It's actually probably less of a hassle to them to just move you to the 2 year waitlist.
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Bums about the torn ACL, I had that a few years ago, definitely a long recovery. I do think it would be a good idea to go to campus, however, I don't think you need to do it before you call your waitlist manager. They will likely tell you they will be reviewing your application at the end of April or some time like that so if you have any updates to send before then. So I think it would be better if you visited before you sent your update and then mentioned how great your visit was in your update. That should give you enough time to be a little more mobile. Even though you have friends who are alums, it can't hurt to mention your impressions from the class you visited or discussions with current students who have similar career interests.


Makes sense. Thanks for the advice. Good luck to you!
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Dakells wrote:
Agreed. I think you should tell your waitlist manager about the mistake. They will review your application again next month and I am sure they will notice that you applied to the 2 year anyway. If they were going to get to the point where they were going to offer you admission, they definitely would have looked at your application close enough to notice it was for the 2 year program. Any chance the letter said they thought you would be a better fit for the 1-year or just that you are on the 1-yr waitlist?


They just said, I am on the 1 yr waitlist!

I just hope they would review my application if I point this out to them... instead of rejecting me outright!


Who knows, they could do the opposite and accept you outright! I really don't think they would reject you without first reviewing you again, especially since they've made a mistake. It's actually probably less of a hassle to them to just move you to the 2 year waitlist.



Yeah, you re right. it can go either ways. Maybe I ll wait until 1st april, talk with my waitlist manager and see what he has to say about my app.
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Hi Everyone,
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Some basic stats from 2012:
1 year MBA: 500 applicants, 100 admits (I believe a higher quality apps here attributable to higher savings, lack of any alternatives in terms of 1 yr programs from other top schools)
2 year MBA: 4500 applicants, 550 admits
.


Wow, I thought Kellogg was close to 20% acceptance rate ? some one correct me btw, I am also a R2 WL here
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giusippe wrote:
Hi Everyone,
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Some basic stats from 2012:
1 year MBA: 500 applicants, 100 admits (I believe a higher quality apps here attributable to higher savings, lack of any alternatives in terms of 1 yr programs from other top schools)
2 year MBA: 4500 applicants, 550 admits
.


Wow, I thought Kellogg was close to 20% acceptance rate ? some one correct me btw, I am also a R2 WL here


Here you go (from their website):

2012 – 2013 Kellogg Full-Time Facts & Figures
Class Profile for 2012 Entrants

Total Number of Applicants 5071
Two-Year MBA and MMM Applicants 4583

Enrolled Students
Total 658
Two-Year MBA 477
One-Year MBA 100
The MMM Program 54
JD-MBA 27


https://www.kellogg.northwestern.edu/Pro ... ofile.aspx
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giusippe wrote:
Hi Everyone,
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Some basic stats from 2012:
1 year MBA: 500 applicants, 100 admits (I believe a higher quality apps here attributable to higher savings, lack of any alternatives in terms of 1 yr programs from other top schools)
2 year MBA: 4500 applicants, 550 admits
.


Wow, I thought Kellogg was close to 20% acceptance rate ? some one correct me btw, I am also a R2 WL here


Here you go (from their website):

2012 – 2013 Kellogg Full-Time Facts & Figures
Class Profile for 2012 Entrants

Total Number of Applicants 5071
Two-Year MBA and MMM Applicants 4583

Enrolled Students
Total 658
Two-Year MBA 477
One-Year MBA 100
The MMM Program 54
JD-MBA 27


https://www.kellogg.northwestern.edu/Pro ... ofile.aspx


O yeah, wasn't questioning your statistics at all, but the website compared t US news, someone gotta be lying about this hahaha (2 years MBA is what the US news refers to )

Northwestern University (Kellogg) Evanston, IL
$56,550 per year (full-time) 1,161 708 3.69 22.9% $134,001 76.9%

Well well, the waiting continues , good luck to all of us
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giusippe wrote:
QHSWS wrote:
Hi Everyone,
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Some basic stats from 2012:
1 year MBA: 500 applicants, 100 admits (I believe a higher quality apps here attributable to higher savings, lack of any alternatives in terms of 1 yr programs from other top schools)
2 year MBA: 4500 applicants, 550 admits.

Wow, I thought Kellogg was close to 20% acceptance rate ? some one correct me btw, I am also a R2 WL here


Here you go (from their website):

2012 – 2013 Kellogg Full-Time Facts & Figures
Class Profile for 2012 Entrants

Total Number of Applicants 5071
Two-Year MBA and MMM Applicants 4583

Enrolled Students
Total 658
Two-Year MBA 477
One-Year MBA 100
The MMM Program 54
JD-MBA 27


https://www.kellogg.northwestern.edu/Pro ... ofile.aspx


O yeah, wasn't questioning your statistics at all, but the website compared t US news, someone gotta be lying about this hahaha (2 years MBA is what the US news refers to )

Northwestern University (Kellogg) Evanston, IL
$56,550 per year (full-time) 1,161 708 3.69 22.9% $134,001 76.9%

Well well, the waiting continues , good luck to all of us


Maybe thats after taking into account their yield rates etc, which I believe is around 70% or so?
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Keep in mind enrolled numbers and accepted numbers are going to be different. No Doubt Kellogg accepted more than 477 students for their 2Y MBA program.
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Yikes. Took a stroll through last year's WL thread (good info in there that I would recommend everyone check out) and I noticed that some of the R1 waitlisters were checking their application status right around the R2 notification and it went from ding, back to WL, and then finally back to ding a little while later. So for a period of time they thought that they were back on the wait list and that the ding was a glitch when, in fact, it was not.

Given all the hijinks with notification for us in R2 (vague status change), I'm just going to avoid checking that site at all until I hear from Kellogg directly (either by email or hopefully by phone). Frankly, I may just avoid the message boards all together and just let it ride out that week.
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count me in for the R2 waitlist :D
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Took myself off the waitlist today. Good luck you guys!
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Took myself off the waitlist today. Good luck you guys!


Is it today that we should start contacting the admission office ? or would they send us an email with next steps? any one knows?
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