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bro you make no sense. Even for harvard stanford or wharton mba the 750 would have made a cut let alone 770. even if you have a bad gpa in your engineering 750 is more than enough to make the adcoms know that you have the horse power to process things. My guess is you are from some old iit . stop making gmat your life 770 or anything above 730-740 for an indian is enough to get the acad box ticked. focus on the extra curriculars work exp and other factors. i suggest you reinstate your 770 score


No, I think he did make sense. Since he is really good at reading, getting 770+ isn't big problem to him. I think that GMAT is now not just a score to him, but a challenge that he have to take LOL
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770 or 780 it hardly makes a difference .Management is all about seeing the big picture. The gmat is just a test to know how well a student will perform at a bschool . it is not a guinnness book of world record competition. if he gets a 780 then he will want a 790 then 800 . Then 800 with a 51 51 and ir 8 with awa 6. There is no end to it. Rather he focus on his application because ultimately even people with 800 get rejected for having a weak profile. This would only make sense if he was a gmat tutor where in a 800 or 780 would boost his reputation. Also he has mentioned that the second attempt was because he wanted to make up for his undergrad grades. A 750 is more than enough for that and a 770 is a beautiful score so i don't see any point
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Thanks for your replies. Yes, I am from an old IIT. Many have indeed echoed some of the feedback here, saying it is foolish of me to attempt it again. When I got my first score of 750, I was explicitly told my knowledgeable folks that it could be a dealbreaker for my profile (Male, IIT, consulting, buy side finance - super competitive, boring, undifferentiated profile for say M7 schools). Not many say the same for 770. Yet, I see that most B-schools show a range capping out at 780, H/S go upto 790. Given the high median GMAT for Indians, I feel pretty sure schools use Indian GMATs as away to boost up their average class GMAT, allowing them to admit a 550 US guy who is pretty solid and interesting. If so, is there even the slightest chance that that a 780 (more than a 770) will up my chances of being pushed forward from a waitlist at at say a Wharton or a Booth? My gut feel is that yes, there is such a chance, even if small. Hence my decision to first focus on getting the application package together, then retake. Of course, I would not have done this if there were no option from GMAC to re-instate a cancelled score :)
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bro if your profile is boring how can you compensate for that by a score. The adcoms from hsw or even m7 know you are smart since you are from an iit and since you have a 770. The reason the might reject you is your profile is boring. Yes for m7 the avg gmat is around 710-730 approx. Being an indian they will expect you to score above this. A 750 does the job and a 770 definitely does it.Show the adcoms your other side be it excelling in sports or being a stand up comedian or being someone who does things a typical iit guy doesn't do. Now if you say i solve puzzles i won't be shocked but if you say i have won many dancing competitions along with such strong acads and an amazing career that will surprise me. 750 is pretty good and 770 definitely is. mba.com itself says that + or -30 points than your true ability is what you get. A mere 10-20 points won't help you . A 740 with a decent profile is better than 780 who is boring
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Congratulations on getting such a good score. Also thanks for sharing a detailed strategy.
Although I would not suggest a retest, but if you are confident of a higher score you can go for it.
All the best for your third attempt. Do share your experience after your test.
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I think you are obsessed with GMAT now (as you call yourself "gmatlover12 ")....

Anyways, if I could sum up of what have you done with your obsession: Human wants are unlimited, but the means to satisfy human wants are limited.

If the want is to get into the best B-School in the world, i.e. any of the top 5, a score of 770 is a highly respected score and should help you get over the line. A perfect score of 800 does not guarantee admission in a top 5 B-School but an overall strong application packet with a score of 770 should help in getting the job done.

Rest I feel a person, who cancels a score of 750 and also a score of 770 on GMAT, should not ask such a question in this forum and "seek public opinion" whether what he has done is right or wrong? I think a person with such capabilities generally knows what he/she is doing with his/her life? As I said earlier you have limited means. What you want to do with "your time" is totally your decision.

Anyways, I wish you all the very best for your life and posting a long debrief. I have picked up some useful tips from your post!
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I say give the GMAT again for personal satisfaction and piece of mind even though achieving 770 or 780+ doesn't make any difference. All of those scores tell Adcoms that you have the capability to succeed in any MBA program. You still have some time before you really need to start working on your applications for coming up application season. But do remember that adcoms look at your application holistically. Also I highly doubt that your GPA is uncompetitive even though you think that its uncompetitive. BTW adcoms don't just look at your overall GPA but look at context as well. You could have done terribly in first year but improved throughout your 4 year degree. You could have worked a side job and got the GPA that you got. MBA applications will give you ample opportunity to explain your circumstances.
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Re: GMAT 770 and canceled it [#permalink]
I don't think it makes any sense to cancel a score of 770. Even if you are sure of a 780, there is no difference as such. Please post your ESR or report.
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ESR report has my identity details, hence not comfortable sharing that. If there are any specific metrics you need, would be happy to post
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Congratulations on your great 770 score!!!! So it is possible to miss 5 questions out of 58 questions that count (53/58) and still score 770 on the GMAT. That is amazing!!!


Verbal
In the first set of questions you answered 88% correctly and 12% incorrectly.
In the second set of questions you answered 86% correctly and 14% incorrectly.
In the third set of questions you answered 100% correctly and 0% either incorrectly or did not answer.
In the final set of questions you answered 88% correctly and 12% either incorrectly or did not answer.

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You responded correctly to 100% of the first set of questions, 100% of the second set of questions, 86% of the third set of questions and 86% of the final set of questions..
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Re: GMAT 770 and canceled it [#permalink]
Congrats on your score. You're already at the 99th percentile with a 770, spending the time and money improving to 780 will not even change that. Aside from that, I'm fairly certain no AdCom is going to accept you at 780 but reject you at a 770.

If you're doing it for your own satisfaction, then you do you I guess. If you're trying to get people's opinion on whether what you're doing makes sense from an admissions perspective, then I'm fairly certain not a lot of people are going to agree with you.

Ultimately its your application and life, if you want to keep giving the GMAT despite already having an amazing score then the opinion of random people on the internet shouldn't really matter to you.
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houston1980 , I believe you meant 62/67 questions right - (36 verbal of which 3 wrong, 31 quant of which 2 wrong). If it helps, I think the quant wrong ones are Q21 and Q31

AvalonQQ , I guess you're right; it's a fairly whimsical decision and not much to gain on an online forum, or even talking to an expert or consultant; it's more of a internal itch which I can't scratch away
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Congratulations on your score - I think there is validity to many of the responses of whether to retake the GMAT and interesting to hear "strategies", a person, in your position would
take etc. If you have the ability to improve your score from 770 to 780 in three weeks I say why not. I think it is important evaluate your "opportunity cost" and if little can be gained from your total application package stand point in 3 or 4 weeks say (extra curricular, summer full time internship etc) sounds like retaking could only prove beneficial at worst. Good luck with applications.

Originally posted by pmsinteriorsllc on 24 May 2018, 09:14.
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Personally I'd take a 99th percentile score with zero cancellations over a higher 99th percentile score with multiple cancellations. Anyone reading the score report will assume the 2 cancellations are MUCH lower than a 750. If you pull off a 790, I would expect the average reader to assume it was a significant outlier. I don't see ANY upside to your decision to cancel.
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JAM789 I'm under the impression that schools will never know that I cancelled. My decision is entirely based on this. I would not have cancelled even my first 750 other wise.
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Such a foolish post showing the stupidity of some IIT dude who is obsessed with grades. I am an IITian too and I can bet that 770 is just amazing. I have 740 and I am going to an M7. So, only gmat doesn't matter. Your entire profile matters. Instead of focusing on that extra 10 points, maybe you should focus on your other areas. Strengthen them so that a well-rounded profile takes care of your low GPA. Don't just depend on the GMAT.

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