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When viewed from the window of a speeding train, the speed with which nearby objects move seems faster than that of more distant objects.


(A) the speed with which nearby objects move seems faster than that of

(B) the speed that nearby objects move seems faster than for

(C) the speed of nearby objects seems faster than

(D) nearby objects' speeds seem to be faster than those of

(E) nearby objects seem to move at a faster speed than do



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Meaning is crucial to solving this problem:
Understanding the intended meaning is key to solving this question; the intended meaning of this sentence is that when nearby objects are viewed from the window of a speeding train, they seem to move at a faster speed than do more distant objects.

Concepts tested here: Meaning + Modifiers + Comparisons

• In a “phrase + comma + noun” construction, the phrase must correctly modify the noun; this is one of the most frequently tested concepts on GMAT sentence correction.
• Comparisons can only be made between similar things.

A: This answer choice incorrectly uses "When viewed from the window of a speeding train" to modify "the speed", illogically implying that the speed of nearby objects is viewed from the window of a speeding train; the intended meaning is that the nearby objects, themselves, are viewed from the window of a speeding train; remember, in a “phrase + comma + noun” construction, the phrase must correctly modify the noun.

B: This answer choice incorrectly uses "When viewed from the window of a speeding train" to modify "the speed", illogically implying that the speed of nearby objects is viewed from the window of a speeding train; the intended meaning is that the nearby objects, themselves, are viewed from the window of a speeding train; remember, in a “phrase + comma + noun” construction, the phrase must correctly modify the noun. Moreover, Option B further alters the meaning of the sentence through the phrase "the speed that nearby objects move"; the construction of this phrase leads to an incoherent meaning; the intended meaning is that nearby objects seem to move at a faster speed than do more distant objects.

C: This answer choice incorrectly uses "When viewed from the window of a speeding train" to modify "the speed", illogically implying that the speed of nearby objects is viewed from the window of a speeding train; the intended meaning is that the nearby objects, themselves, are viewed from the window of a speeding train; remember, in a “phrase + comma + noun” construction, the phrase must correctly modify the noun. Further, Option C incorrectly compares "the speed of nearby objects" to "more distant objects"; remember, comparisons can only be made between similar things.

D: This answer choice incorrectly uses "When viewed from the window of a speeding train" to modify "nearby objects' speeds", illogically implying that the speed of nearby objects is viewed from the window of a speeding train; the intended meaning is that the nearby objects, themselves, are viewed from the window of a speeding train; remember, in a “phrase + comma + noun” construction, the phrase must correctly modify the noun.

E: Correct. This answer choice correctly uses "When viewed from the window of a speeding train" to modify "nearby objects", conveying the intended meaning - that the nearby objects, themselves, are viewed from the window of a speeding train. Moreover, Option E uses the clause "nearby objects seem to move at a faster speed", conveying the intended meaning - that nearby objects seem to move at a faster speed than do more distant objects. Further, Option C correctly compares "seem to move" with "do".

Hence, E is the best answer choice.

To understand the concept of "Phrase Comma Subject" and "Subject Comma Phrase" on GMAT, you may want to watch the following video (~1 minute):



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When viewed from the window of a speeding train, the speed with which nearby objects move seems faster than that of more distant objects.


A. the speed with which nearby objects move seems faster than that of

B. the speed that nearby objects move seems faster than for

C. the speed of nearby objects seems faster than

D. nearby objects' speeds seem to be faster than those of

E. nearby objects seem to move at a faster speed than do


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I think the answer is E.

"When viewed from the window of a speeding train,"

should modify "nearby objects"


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When viewed from the window of a speeding train, the speed with which nearby objects move seems faster than that of more distant objects.

A. the speed with which nearby objects move seems faster than that of

B. the speed that nearby objects move seems faster than for

C. the speed of nearby objects seems faster than

D. nearby objects' speeds seem to be faster than those of

E. nearby objects seem to move at a faster speed than do

The modifier "When viewed from the window of a speeding train" should be followed by the modified entity - objects (near by object).

eliminate A, B & C.

D is wrong because of possessive nearby objects'.

E is the best of all.
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When viewed from the window of a speeding train, the speed with which nearby objects move seems faster than that of more distant objects.
A. the speed with which nearby objects move seems faster than that of
B. the speed that nearby objects move seems faster than for
C. the speed of nearby objects seems faster than
D. nearby objects' speeds seem to be faster than those of
E. nearby objects seem to move at a faster speed than do
When viewed from the window of a speeding train, Can you view a speed, the answer is no, so eliminate A,B,C,D, and you're left with E
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I have a question about the understanding the structure of the sentence.

"When viewed from the window of a speeding train, nearby objects seem to move at a faster speed than do more distant objects. "

why isn't it written as "
When viewed from the window of a speeding train, nearby objects seem to move at a faster speed than more distant objects."

if it is subjective compares with sub ( nearby objects Vs more distant objects ), why is there a " do " in front of subjective ? whether could it be omitted?

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I have a question about the understanding the structure of the sentence.

"When viewed from the window of a speeding train, nearby objects seem to move at a faster speed than do more distant objects. "

why isn't it written as "
When viewed from the window of a speeding train, nearby objects seem to move at a faster speed than more distant objects."

if it is subjective compares with sub ( nearby objects Vs more distant objects ), why is there a " do " in front of subjective ? whether could it be omitted?

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The comparison here involves action..
The complete sentence would read as
"When viewed from the window of a speeding train, nearby objects seem to move at a faster speed than do more distant objects(seem to move). "

We are comparing the pace of movement of the two objects.

With just the action word((do)) ,it says the necessary comparison without repeating the entire sentence again.


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The first issue is that this is not a comparison question alone, but also a modification question. What is viewed are the nearby objects and not their speed. Hence, A through D is out at first glance itself.

Coming to comparison in E, what are being compared are not the nearby objects with distant objects but rather the action of their seeming movements. When you compare one arm with a word of action, then the other arm has to be matched with another parallel word of action. Hence, 'do' is required
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A. the speed with which nearby objects move seems faster than that of

B. the speed that nearby objects move seems faster than for

C. the speed of nearby objects seems faster than

D. nearby objects' speeds seem to be faster than those of

E. nearby objects seem to move at a faster speed than do
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This is made very simple by thinking about it logically.

You can't view speed, you view the objects.

Eliminate any answers that state that you view "the speed"

Eliminate options A, B, C and D

Option E: "when viewed from the window..., nearby objects seem to...than do...more distant". This comparison is logically and grammatically parallel.
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I still can't understand why "do" is in front of the "more distant objects " in the option (E)?
I think it should be “than more distant object do”...

would anyone be so kind to help me? thank u very much!!
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I still can't understand why "do" is in front of the "more distant objects " in the option (E)?
I think it should be “than more distant object do”...

would anyone be so kind to help me? thank u very much!!
In some cases, it's possible to put a verb before its subject. This doesn't always mean that we have to switch them. It just means that there is nothing wrong with it. If you're wondering why the GMAT would do this, well, the people who make the questions probably want to see whether we'll remove such options (and therefore get the question wrong). :)

Another example:
He joined the company, and so did his sister.

We'll need to "whitelist" this sort of usage.
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10210219 wrote:
I still can't understand why "do" is in front of the "more distant objects " in the option (E)?
I think it should be “than more distant object do”...

would anyone be so kind to help me? thank u very much!!
In some cases, it's possible to put a verb before its subject. This doesn't always mean that we have to switch them. It just means that there is nothing wrong with it. If you're wondering why the GMAT would do this, well, the people who make the questions probably want to see whether we'll remove such options (and therefore get the question wrong). :)

Another example:
He joined the company, and so did his sister.

We'll need to "whitelist" this sort of usage.



thanks for the explanation.

"He joined the company, and so did his sister."

After rewriting the above example ....

He joined the company, and his sister did(joined) so.

Is the above sentence correct or else please explain that one
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thanks for the explanation.

"He joined the company, and so did his sister."

After rewriting the above example ....

He joined the company, and his sister did(joined) so.

Is the above sentence correct or else please explain that one
When so is used in the ~addition sense (to "add on" to something), we should invert the normal order (the normal order is subject first).

1. He joined the company, and so did his sister. ← This one gives us that ~addition meaning.

2. He joined the company, and his sister did so. ← This one does not give us the ~addition meaning (the kind of meaning we'd get from "ABC, and also XYZ").

3. He joined the company, and his sister did so too. ← Here the too helps to give us the additional emphasis that the so provided in (1).
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I have solved the question without any problem focusing on the modification issue.
I just had one doubt.

In the official explanation it is written that along with the modification error, there is also the error of parallelism in comparison in option A.
Can you help with that?

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When viewed from the window of a speeding train, the speed with which nearby objects move seems faster than that of more distant objects.

Error 1. As you have said, - the modification error.

2. The idiom error. The speed at which is better than the speed with which

3. Comparison error: When expanded this means that 'the speed with which nearby objects move seems faster than the speed of more distant objects.

What is logically being compared is the speed at which the nearby objects move in the first arm with the speed at which the distance objects move in the second. The action 'move' is central to the comparison and since it is an action verb, it should reflect in both the arms for parallel comparison.
Since the action verb move is absent in the second arm, the comparison turns out to be between the action of move in the first arm and just only the speed of more distant objects in the other, which we must deem it as an improper comparison.
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This is an interesting question. It has language that might trip up most non-native speakers who go “by the ear” – the addition of ‘do’ can be confusing.

When we see a modifier that opens a sentence, we should always be on the lookout for the subject of the clause. And this subject must come right after the comma.

With this question, what do you see ‘when viewed from the window of a train’? You don’t see ‘the speed’ but you see the ‘nearby objects’.

Now let’s check out the options:

(A) the speed with which nearby objects move seems faster than that of
Incorrect subject after comma. Eliminate.

(B) the speed that nearby objects move seems faster than for
Incorrect subject after comma. Eliminate.

(C) the speed of nearby objects seems faster than
Incorrect subject after comma. Eliminate.

(D) nearby objects' speeds seem to be faster than those of
It’s not objects’ speed that is the subject but the objects themselves. Eliminate.

(E) nearby objects seem to move at a faster speed than do
Correct order of words. Right comparison of action. This is the best option.

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When viewed from the window of a speeding train, the speed with which nearby objects move seems faster than that of more distant objects.


(A) the speed with which nearby objects move seems faster than that of

(B) the speed that nearby objects move seems faster than for

(C) the speed of nearby objects seems faster than

(D) nearby objects' speeds seem to be faster than those of

(E) nearby objects seem to move at a faster speed than do



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hey, generis

Could you please help me out with this I seem to have an unpopular opinion on this from the other answers.

When I read the first part, "When viewed from the window of a speeding train" - I immediately asked myself What is that you are viewing from the window and the answer seems to some object/physical thing

And I found option E reasonably mentioned nearby objects. I said Cool.

But then I asked myself, Nearby objects seem to move faster than do far objects

How is it that objects are moving? Are they meant to be moving or shouldn't the idea that they are moving illogical ?

Does this make sense? lmk your thoughts
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