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EMPOWERgmatVerbal : you mentioned that as much as can be used for percentages and non countables. the current question also has usage of percentage but it got considered as to be used for hours and hence countable. So How do we decide in these percent sentences where to use much and where to use many.


Hello nlx23!

Thank you for your question! I know this can be a tricky one, especially when percentages get involved! Here is another way to determine if you need "as much as" or "as many as" when you see a percentage:

If the percentage is the only thing you see = as much as

The students raised their SAT scores by as much as 15 percent.
(There is nothing countable attached to the percentage. Percentages by themselves are not countable nouns.)

If the percentage is followed up by "more/less/fewer" and a countable noun = as many as

The marketing team's new social media campaign brought in as many as 20 percent more new users this quarter.
(The term "users" is countable, so we need to use "as many as." The percentage is just there to tell you how many more users they got. It works the same as saying that they brought in "as many as 20 new users.")

I hope this helps!
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Regulators are likely to end what are, in effect, long-standing exemptions permitting pilots of small turboprop aircraft at small carriers to fly as much as 20 percent more hours per month than pilots at larger airlines fly, with the consequence that some carriers could be forced to hire additional pilots.

A. as much as 20 percent more hours per month than pilots at larger airlines fly, with the consequence that
B. as many as 20 percent more hours per month as pilots at larger airlines, and
C. more hours per month, as much as 20 percent, than pilots at larger airlines; consequently
D. as much as 20 percent more hours per month as larger airlines’ pilots, so
E. as many as 20 percent more hours per month than pilots at larger airlines do, and consequently


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Regulators are likely to end what are, in effect, long-standing exemptions permitting pilots of small turboprop aircraft at small carriers to fly as much as 20 percent more hours per month than pilots at larger airlines fly, with the consequence that some carriers could be forced to hire additional pilots.

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(A) as much as 20 percent more hours per month than pilots at larger airlines fly, with the consequence that

Should be "many", since hours can be counted. The latter part of the sentence just sounds awkward, especially with the "with the consequence...." concept.

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(B) as many as 20 percent more hours per month as pilots at larger airlines, and

"Many" works here but it should be "more hours.....THAN." A

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(C) more hours per month, as much as 20 percent, than pilots at larger airlines; consequently

Again, should be "many".

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(D) [color=#f26d7d]as much as 20 percent more hours per month as larger airlines' pilots, so[/color]

Avoid using plural possessives.

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(E) as many as 20 percent more hours per month than pilots at larger airlines do, and consequently
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An interesting thing going on in this problem is that two different comparison structures are being used:

1) "as much/many as" (in "as many as 20% more")

2) "more than" ("twenty percent more hours than other pilots")

This can make it difficult to notice, but in choices (B) and (D) if you're looking for fatal, 100% wrong flaws, you can note that the "more hours than" comparison isn't completed with a "than," so those are completely wrong on that basis.

Then also you're dealing with a singular/plural issue with "much" vs. "many." Because the noun being modified is "hours," a plural noun, you should use "many" (e.g. "I studied for many hours") and not "much" (I studied for much hours??). Since (A), (C), and (D) all make that error, you can see that you're left with only (E) as the correct answer.
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Regulators are likely to end what are, in effect, long-standing exemptions permitting pilots of small turboprop aircraft at small carriers to fly as much as 20 percent more hours per month than pilots at larger airlines fly, with the consequence that some carriers could be forced to hire additional pilots.

A. as much as 20 percent more hours per month than pilots at larger airlines fly, with the consequence that - usage of as much as is incorrect as 'hours' is countable
B. as many as 20 percent more hours per month as pilots at larger airlines, and - 'more than' is correct comparison marker
C. more hours per month, as much as 20 percent, than pilots at larger airlines; consequently - usage of as much as is incorrect as 'hours' is countable
D. as much as 20 percent more hours per month as larger airlines’ pilots, so - usage of as much as is incorrect as 'hours' is countable, 'more than' is correct comparison marker
E. as many as 20 percent more hours per month than pilots at larger airlines do, and consequently - Correct

Answer E
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EMPOWERgmatVerbal : you mentioned that as much as can be used for percentages and non countables. the current question also has usage of percentage but it got considered as to be used for hours and hence countable. So How do we decide in these percent sentences where to use much and where to use many.
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EMPOWERgmatVerbal wrote:
Let's start with #1 on our list: as much as vs. as many as. This is a common grammar issue people often get mixed up, so here is a quick lesson on when to use "as much as" versus "as many as":

as much as = non-countable nouns & percentages
That pair of shoes costs as much as my last month's rent!
The failure rate for this class can be as much as 25 percent.


as many as = countable nouns
There will be as many as 250 people at our graduation party.
My coworkers work as many as 15 percent more hours than I do each week.


So let's take a closer look at our options and eliminate the ones that don't use the correct idiom:

A. as much as 20 percent more hours per month than pilots at larger airlines fly, with the consequence that
B. as many as 20 percent more hours per month as pilots at larger airlines, and
C. more hours per month, as much as 20 percent, than pilots at larger airlines; consequently
D. as much as 20 percent more hours per month as larger airlines’ pilots, so
E. as many as 20 percent more hours per month than pilots at larger airlines do, and consequently



EMPOWERgmatVerbal

I see that you've prefaced by saying that we use "as much as" for percentages. Why not here then?

I understand the countable v/s non-countable distinction but here, I thought that we couldn't really count 20% more hours. 20% of what?
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EMPOWERgmatVerbal wrote:
Let's start with #1 on our list: as much as vs. as many as. This is a common grammar issue people often get mixed up, so here is a quick lesson on when to use "as much as" versus "as many as":

as much as = non-countable nouns & percentages
That pair of shoes costs as much as my last month's rent!
The failure rate for this class can be as much as 25 percent.


as many as = countable nouns
There will be as many as 250 people at our graduation party.
My coworkers work as many as 15 percent more hours than I do each week.


So let's take a closer look at our options and eliminate the ones that don't use the correct idiom:

A. as much as 20 percent more hours per month than pilots at larger airlines fly, with the consequence that
B. as many as 20 percent more hours per month as pilots at larger airlines, and
C. more hours per month, as much as 20 percent, than pilots at larger airlines; consequently
D. as much as 20 percent more hours per month as larger airlines’ pilots, so
E. as many as 20 percent more hours per month than pilots at larger airlines do, and consequently



EMPOWERgmatVerbal

I see that you've prefaced by saying that we use "as much as" for percentages. Why not here then?

I understand the countable v/s non-countable distinction but here, I thought that we couldn't really count 20% more hours. 20% of what?


Hello Rony26

If the percentage is stated without any additional details, we use "as much as."
If the percentage is stated as being part of something, we use "as many as."

Another hint that you need "as many as: = you'll often see the words more/less/fewer after the percentage. It's not always the case, but it's a good sign that if you see "X% more/less/fewer Y" that you'll need "as many as."

Here are some examples:

My grades dropped as much as 20% after I stopped going to my tutor.

In this case, the percentage stands by itself. There is nothing countable to go along with the percentage. It's also not being used to indicated that it's a part of something larger, so we use "as much as."

Hybrid cars can drive as many as 35% more miles than a traditional gas-powered car.

In this case, the percentage is describing how many more miles the car can drive - 35% more. Since miles are absolutely countable, we need to use "as many as" here.

I hope this helps! This is a tricky grammar concept, so I understand that it may take some practice to get familiar with it.
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When you see a lengthy sentence such as this, it is always good to read it and scan the options to understand what the problem areas are.

Here we have choices between as many as vs as much as; than vs as; and different forms of ‘consequently’ at the end.

The trick here that got me was overlooking the ’20% more hours’ that was in the sentence. When it is just 20%, the idiomatic expression is ‘as much as 20%’. But here the right expression is ‘as many as 20% more hours’ since this is a countable figure.

Once we figure this out, we can safely eliminate options A, C, and D.

Now, it’s down to options B and E.
With B, you notice that there is actually a simple comparison error being made. Idiomatically, it should be ‘more hours per hour than Y’. Plus, comparison here seems to be between hours and pilots, which is incorrect.

So we can toss B and choose E which is the right answer.

Hope this helps!
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Do we say "home many percentage more" or " how much percentage more"
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aepmk Neither of those works. It would be "How much/many more?" or "What percent more?"
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Regulators are likely to end what are, in effect, long-standing exemptions permitting pilots of small turboprop aircraft at small carriers to fly as much as 20 percent more hours per month than pilots at larger airlines fly, with the consequence that some carriers could be forced to hire additional pilots.

A. as much as 20 percent more hours per month than pilots at larger airlines fly, with the consequence that
B. as many as 20 percent more hours per month as pilots at larger airlines, and
C. more hours per month, as much as 20 percent, than pilots at larger airlines; consequently
D. as much as 20 percent more hours per month as larger airlines’ pilots, so
E. as many as 20 percent more hours per month than pilots at larger airlines do, and consequently

This one is super tricky with the "as much as" vs "as many as"

It's tricky to determine if we're dealing with a countable or uncountable noun.

If it just said "20 percent more than other pilots" that would be uncountable. 20% is uncountable.

However, the sentence says hours! Therefore we are dealing with a countable plural noun.

Use many for countable
Use much for uncountable

Eliminate A, C, and D

Between B and E

B incorrectly uses "as" for the comparison instead of "than." That's 100% incorrect.

Nice Question.
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aepmk This is a case in which we have to look at what comes after the percent part. We'd say "as much as 20% of the population" and "as many as 20% of the people," or "as much as 20% of the cake" vs. "as many as 20% of the sandwiches."
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A. Percentage of countable nouns are treated as countable nouns. So it should be 'as many as' and not 'as much as' because hours are countable even though time is not countable.

B. more "hours per month" as "pilots at larger airlines" is incorrect. more X than Y is correct, more X as Y is incorrect. The independent clause "some carriers could be forced to hire additional pilots" is connected by "comma and". However, the clause is the consequence of the previous clause, so rather than using just 'and' there should be a word to indicate that it is a consequence. Compare this with option E where the clause is correctly connected by "comma and consequently".

C. "hours" is countable, so it should not use 'as much as 20 percent'. It is not clear what '20 percent' is of. It could be made clearer by adding '20 percent more hours'.

D. Like in B, it uses more X as Y instead of more X than Y. "so" indicates that the purpose of this change was to force carriers to hire additional pilots which changes the meaning.

E. (correct) 'as many as' correctly used to describe a percentage of countable noun (hours). "and consequently" clearly shows that 'some carriers could be forced to hire additional pilots' is the consequence of the earlier clause.
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Hi experts,

I understand how we got to the right answer using the comparison and parallelism errors, but one thing I am unable to wrap my head around is the "and consequently" part of the sentence in option (e).

I inferred the meaning as the exemption reducing time for pilots at smaller airlines and as a consequence of this the airlines will have to hire new pilots. However, the usage of "and consequently" does not seem to suggest that.

Would really appreciate if you could help me with where I am going wrong in understanding this.

Thanks!

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MentorTutoring DmitryFarber mikemcgarry EMPOWERgmatRichC

If I eliminate some of the words and consider the sentence following way to understand the comparison when answering, will it be a good idea? Or should I focus on all the segments of the sentence?

Pilots of small aircraft fly as many as 20 percent more hours than pilots at larger airlines do.

Compared entities:
Spending hours of small aircraft pilot VS Spending hours of larger aircraft pilot

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If I eliminate some of the words and consider the sentence following way to understand the comparison when answering, will it be a good idea? Or should I focus on all the segments of the sentence?

Pilots of small aircraft fly as many as 20 percent more hours than pilots at larger airlines do.

Compared entities:
Spending hours of small aircraft pilot VS Spending hours of larger aircraft pilot

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Hello, sjuniv32. Whenever you encounter a do substitute, you need to ask yourself what it is standing in for. It is this consideration that will reveal either a correct or an incorrect comparison. Consider the original line first:

Pilots of small aircraft fly as many as 20 percent more hours than pilots at larger airlines do.

Now take a look at the barebones structure:

Pilots of A fly more hours than pilots at B do.

It should be clear that we are basing the comparison between pilots on their actions, flying and flying.

Pilots of A fly more hours than pilots at B fly.

The comparison makes sense. I sometimes find it useful to shave off some of the added baggage of the sentence to get to the heart of the matter, particularly when comparisons are involved.

Thank you for bringing my attention to the question. Good luck with your studies.

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Hi experts,

I understand how we got to the right answer using the comparison and parallelism errors, but one thing I am unable to wrap my head around is the "and consequently" part of the sentence in option (e).

I inferred the meaning as the exemption reducing time for pilots at smaller airlines and as a consequence of this the airlines will have to hire new pilots. However, the usage of "and consequently" does not seem to suggest that.

Would really appreciate if you could help me with where I am going wrong in understanding this.

Thanks!
Hi ShivanshAggarwal,

Consequently just means "as a result".

Here is the sentence that E leads to:
Regulators are likely to end what are, in effect, long-standing exemptions permitting pilots of small turboprop aircraft at small carriers to fly as many as 20 percent more hours per month than pilots at larger airlines do, and consequently some carriers could be forced to hire additional pilots.

~ Regulators are going to end exemptions that allow some ("small carrier") pilots to fly more hours per month than ("larger airline") pilots...

If such exemptions are removed, small carriers may need more pilots. That's where the and consequently comes in. It tells us what some carriers could be forced to do as a result of what the regulators are likely to do.

Regulators are likely to end what are, in effect, long-standing exemptions permitting pilots of small turboprop aircraft at small carriers to fly as many as 20 percent more hours per month than pilots at larger airlines do, and, as a result, some carriers could be forced to hire additional pilots.
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