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PadawanOfTheGMAT wrote:
Your diagnostic test scores are impressive. I can't advise you on anything at all, beside make sure to take a bit time to train on AWA before test day.

How did you train up to now to achieve such high scores?


Thanks Padawan, not sure I can advise you either based on your prep scores, which show some impressive progress.

All I've done is what I wrote in my post. Since I felt reasonably comfortable with most of the concepts (studied A-level maths about 10 years ago and did a tough philosophy degree which was good for RC and CR in particular), if a bit rusty on the maths, it has so far just been a case of practising questions, ideally tough questions, to get a feel for what's being asked and to identify weak spots. Now I've identified a few weaker areas I think I need to go back and cover some of the conceptual stuff before coming back to practice questions. If I do end up doing well on the test I'll happily come back and do a full debrief, but at this point I think it would be jumping the gun. I have a long way to go yet!

Thanks for the point on the AWA - I will be sure to do so.

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While the OG diagnostic is still a good preliminary assessment, I would recommend that you take GMAT Prep - the free practice test offered by GMAC through their website.

That would be the most accurate predictor of your score, and will help assess where your actual baseline is, on a scale of 200-800. Apart from that, using the MGMAT Guides, Powerscore CR and just picking one good strategy for RC and sticking with it, would be all you'll need.

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Thanks whiplash, I will take a prep test asap for diagnostic purposes, but am still curious as to which would be the best resource(s) for my particular weak spots: quant applied algebra/number properties + SC. Any thoughts? No sure that Powerscore CR is worth the time at this point as it's my strongest area.

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MGMAT Math Guides (All 5 of them and Number Properties in particular) are monstrous and incredibly helpful. I'd strongly suggest getting that, especially if you have trouble with number properties and algebra!

As for SC, again - MGMAT SC is almost considered a Bible for this question type. I've thumbed through Veritas Prep's SC and that one is a pretty solid book too.
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wow what an accuracy !!

I do not think you need guides for the verbal as you are already performing at par.

I strongly advice you to start GmatClub tests for higher difficulty questions + Mgmat cat's + Gmatprep.

Also check
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download all the sc notes !! Also download whip's and singflox's Cr notes for reviewing the theory of CR.

I do not think you need any strategy guides for verbal. You need to master the mock tests. So better spend time in practicing the tests, reviewing the mistakes,and minimizing the errors.

You should give Gmatprep right now to know your level, followed by Mgmat cat's and gmarprep's other tests.
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Ok, great, thanks both.

So based on this I think I'm going to pick out the MGMAT books for the concepts I'm weakest on, and then make use of the forum resources for tests, tough question banks and notes such as SC. And take a diagnostic ASAP!

Thanks for the extra tips Gurpreet!

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Ok, great, thanks both.

So based on this I think I'm going to pick out the MGMAT books for the concepts I'm weakest on, and then make use of the forum resources for tests, tough question banks and notes such as SC. And take a diagnostic ASAP!

Thanks for the extra tips Gurpreet!

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So I took the first MGMAT CAT exam, scored 710 (Q48, V39). I rushed it a bit so think I'll do better next time but it was good practice. For the record, in case it's useful for anyone else:

1. I was surprised by how different it is trying to answer questions from the screen to answering from a book. Useful to find this out and direct my practice accordingly.

2. I actually found the time pressure helpful, it focused my mind on getting to an answer quickly, which was often quite productive. Again, useful to practice in these conditions.

3. It was well worth trying to do an AWA, as it was tougher than I'd imagined trying to clearly articulate a response to that kind of information, even as someone who studied essay-based subjects at university and still writes every day.

4. I was surprised how tough the maths questions were, they were mostly similar to the ones at the very end of OG12. I ended up doing a fair bit of guesswork, which was uncomfortable but also quite useful - a reminder to work on guessing strategies as well as trying to be able to answer every question properly.

All in all a bit of a wake-up call but also encouraging - getting so many wrong, I expected a lower score. I scored 26/41 (63%) in both sections, so am surprised to see that come out as 710 (the percentiles were 86% for quant, 89% for verbal and 94% overall, which seems to suggest that consistency across quant and verbal is quite valuable with respect to the overall score - wonder if that's the same in the real thing). The percentages of questions answered correctly obviously compare very unfavourably to my prep in OG12 which suggests that I've not prepared adequately for the toughness of the questions I'm likely to come across. In retrospect spending all that time on low-level questions may not have been all that productive.

Hope someone can take something from this, maybe avoid similar mistakes or address these things sooner.

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I think you need only MGMAT Number Properties for your weakest areas and as far as Algebra is concerned where do you feel you are weak (Equations or Formulas or Functions or Inequalities)? I f you don't wanna go into greater details of Algebra & Number Properties then GMAT Club's Math Book is enough along with OG questions, questions posted here on forum and GMAT Club Quant tests.
I've compiled GMATClub's Math Book into a .pdf file, make sure you download it and it would be a great resource for revision also Algebra has been explained well by Shrouded1 other than that you need practice, practice, and practice. Give GMATPrep about 4 times before G-day. And giving free CATs by Kaplan, Knewton, and other good GMAT prep company would be a nice addition.

Just my 2 cents. Good Luck :)
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I think you need only MGMAT Number Properties for your weakest areas and as far as Algebra is concerned where do you feel you are weak (Equations or Formulas or Functions or Inequalities)? I f you don't wanna go into greater details of Algebra & Number Properties then GMAT Club's Math Book is enough along with OG questions, questions posted here on forum and GMAT Club Quant tests.
I've compiled GMATClub's Math Book into a .pdf file, make sure you download it and it would be a great resource for revision also Algebra has been explained well by Shrouded1 other than that you need practice, practice, and practice. Give GMATPrep about 4 times before G-day. And giving free CATs by Kaplan, Knewton, and other good GMAT prep company would be a nice addition.

Just my 2 cents. Good Luck :)


Thanks Atif. The more I look into it the more I see my quant weaknesses are scattered around. I know instinctively that I need number properties help so have ordered the MGMAT book for that, and I know Combinatorics is a weak area as I simply don't know the theory (although am also sceptical as to how often it comes up in real GMAT questions - haven't seen much of it in the OG). But apart from that I have small weaknesses all over, and am still making silly mistakes which make it hard to rely on % right/wrong analysis from only 3/4 questions per question group. I think I need to cover the theoretical gaps I know about and then take a couple more MGMAT CATs to fill out the stats a bit before I'll have an idea where the real unknown weaknesses are.

Thanks for the recommendations for resources on here, will follow those. One thing I've been wondering though: if I start working through the 700-800 level questions on here, am I going to start seeing repeats in the MGMAT CATs? I am assuming there are a fair number of shared questions as people try the CATs and then post the tricky ones on here...?
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Well, you can use tag search (go to search & then use tags) for particular questions like 700-800 level and/or GMAT Prep and so on. By tag search you can avoid MGMAT questions here on forum (not totally). About 2-3 questions regarding probability & combinatorics appear on tests according to majority of the test-takers here on forum or maybe 3-4 and sometimes less. But you should be prepared anyhow, see combinatorics topic in GMATClub's Math book and solve them here as much as you can (use tag search).

And once again do give GMATPrep which is the most accurate indication of where exactly do you lie right now. Track your progress & weaknesses into Error log (you can find here on forum & I'd suggest use the one by Saruba) and then revise the topics you feel like you are weak at.

And yea probability & combinatorics are included in MGMAT Word Translations book, if you wanna go into more details then I think there's a book on this topic by Veritas Prep (See Book recommendations topic by bb here on forum)
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gmat-prep-power-prep-official-free-gmat-tests-77548.html (download GMAT prep here--> 2 versions)

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Well, you can use tag search (go to search & then use tags) for particular questions like 700-800 level and/or GMAT Prep and so on. By tag search you can avoid MGMAT questions here on forum (not totally). About 2-3 questions regarding probability & combinatorics appear on tests according to majority of the test-takers here on forum or maybe 3-4 and sometimes less. But you should be prepared anyhow, see combinatorics topic in GMATClub's Math book and solve them here as much as you can (use tag search).

And once again do give GMATPrep which is the most accurate indication of where exactly do you lie right now. Track your progress & weaknesses into Error log (you can find here on forum & I'd suggest use the one by Saruba) and then revise the topics you feel like you are weak at.

And yea probability & combinatorics are included in MGMAT Word Translations book, if you wanna go into more details then I think there's a book on this topic by Veritas Prep (See Book recommendations topic by bb here on forum)
Hope it helps!


Thanks again - good advice. Haven't cottoned onto error logs yet but think it's time. Will go check it out!

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