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GMATNinja Can you please help me with the solution for this problem



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I will be glad to help you out with this one.

I am adding a link to the video solution I just created for this question. Please review the same, and do let me know if you still have any doubts. I will be happy to help.


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Hi, can an expert clear my doubt regarding the joining of two ICs.
I always thought that either FANBOYS or ";" could be used to join two ICs. However, here in option D two ICs are being joined by ":". Is that also acceptable on the GMAT?


Hello sv2023,

We hope this finds you well.

To answer your query, the colon - ":" - can be used to join two independent clauses, when the second explains or illustrates the first.

We hope this finds you well.
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That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said that it is their fault : Alvin Toffler, one of the most prominent students of the future, did not even mention microcomputers in Future Shock, published in 1970


(A) That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said that it is their fault
(B)That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said to be at fault
(C)It can hardly be said that it is the fault of educators who have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology
(D)It can hardly be said that educators are at fault for not anticipating the impact of microcomputer technology
(E)The fact that educators are at fault for not anticipating the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said.


HI all i am opening this thread again because i dint got the previous explanation quite convincing....so will request the experts also to share their thoughts.

as per my understanding i was able to eliminate A ,B but was stuck in C D E...
Please suggest.

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Hi experts,

I understand that opening sentence is Dependent clause followed by ";", followed by Independent clause and we need to somehow convert dependent clause to independent clause.

Can you please explain why each of the answer choices are wrong here ? Especially what is the difference between C and D
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Hi experts,

I understand that opening sentence is Dependent clause followed by ";", followed by Independent clause and we need to somehow convert dependent clause to independent clause.

Can you please explain why each of the answer choices are wrong here ? Especially what is the difference between C and D


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Before we respond to your question, we would like to see your analysis of this question. This way, we can give you a more effective response based on your understanding of the question. Please attempt an analysis based on the three-step process.

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Request the moderators from egmat or OptimusPrep help understand the logic for eliminating C.
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Re: That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer [#permalink]
But I thought the present perfect tense should be used here. The action 'anticipate' occurred in the past, furthermore, the sentence has one of the example which also occurred in the past.

Pls help. I always have problem understanding questions regarding tenses.
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But I thought the present perfect tense should be used here. The action 'anticipate' occurred in the past, furthermore, the sentence has one of the example which also occurred in the past.

Pls help. I always have problem understanding questions regarding tenses.


As you have anticipated, the usage of present perfect for "anticipate" would be correct. However the options (A, B and C) using present perfect have other serious grammatical issues.

In option D, using simple present for the verb "are" is correct since the educators are still at fault - the fact is a general truth.


Thank you very much. Per my understanding, we should eliminate other serious grammar mistakes first and left the tenses for last, is it right? I often see the grammar mistake to be very hard to recognize.
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But I thought the present perfect tense should be used here. The action 'anticipate' occurred in the past, furthermore, the sentence has one of the example which also occurred in the past.

Pls help. I always have problem understanding questions regarding tenses.


As you have anticipated, the usage of present perfect for "anticipate" would be correct. However the options (A, B and C) using present perfect have other serious grammatical issues.

In option D, using simple present for the verb "are" is correct since the educators are still at fault - the fact is a general truth.


Thank you very much. Per my understanding, we should eliminate other serious grammar mistakes first and left the tenses for last, is it right? I often see the grammar mistake to be very hard to recognize.


Tense errors are serious grammatical mistakes - it would not be appropriate to prioritize them low. Have you tried to understand the tense issues using a time line? The timeline approach helps clarify the concept of tense.
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HI ... I just have a quick question -
Answer D does seem right although one of the grammar rules I learnt was that a pronoun always needs an antecedent. In answer D, the pronoun 'It' has no antecedent.

What am I missing? Please help.

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(D) It can hardly be said that educators are at fault for not anticipating the impact of microcomputer technology



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Its a silly question but can someone tell me what does "it" refer to in option d?
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Option (A) That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said that it is their fault

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(A) That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said that it is their fault,

was it correct?
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Option (A) That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said that it is their fault

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(A) That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said that it is their fault,

was it correct?
No. We cannot say X can hardly be said their fault. This is because can be said is passive, and the thing that is being said (or not said) has already been mentioned (X).

We cannot say X. (active)
X cannot be said. (passive)

X cannot be said Y. (wrong)
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When I review this question with students, I find the best way to think about it is to think of the following structure as an idiom:

"It's surprising that __________"

"It can hardly be said that ________"

"It's unfortunate but true that __________"

This construction is a particular type of English idiom that's used to avoid putting a very long, complicated clause at the beginning of a sentence. Given the choice, most of us native English speakers should prefer (1) to (2) below:

(1) It's unfortunate that Jordan and Lee unexpectedly divorced after five seemingly happy years of marriage. - Good
(2) That Jordan and Lee unexpectedly divorced after five seemingly happy years of marriage is unfortunate. - Weird

You might want to cross off (1) because the 'it' doesn't seem to refer to anything. However, that's because in this particular idiom, there's a 'hollow it' that doesn't refer to anything at all, and that's okay. The 'hollow it' shows up in other English sentences too, like "It's raining" or "It's going to be beautiful outside today."

Really, what I think is being tested in options (A) and (B) is whether you recognize the 'it can hardly be said that ______' idiom, and whether you know that it's better to keep an idiom in its normal form than to move the bits around.

Hm.... as a non-native speaker, I really want to ask what does "can hardly be said " mean??
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That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said that it is their fault: Alvin Toffler, one of the most prominent students of the future, did not even mention microcomputers in Future Shock, published in 1970.

Hi experts,

In my opinion the given question is wrong because the first sentence is followed by ':' instead of ';'.

Please tell me, whether I am correct, If not, please tell me why.
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That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said that it is their fault: Alvin Toffler, one of the most prominent students of the future, did not even mention microcomputers in Future Shock, published in 1970.

Hi experts,

In my opinion the given question is wrong because the first sentence is followed by ':' instead of ';'.

Please tell me, whether I am correct, If not, please tell me why.
It's okay to put a colon between two clauses when the second explains the first (a colon can be used in other ways as well). In this case the second clause is explaining the first. It tells us why we cannot blame educators for not anticipating the impact of microcomputer technology.
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