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Bunuel wrote:
Yes and about the ZIP trap:

GMAT likes to act in the zone -1<=x<=1. So I always ask myself:

Did I assumed, with no ground for it, that variable can not be Zero? Check 0!
Did I assumed, with no ground for it, that variable is an Integer? Check fractions!
Did I assumed, with no ground for it, that variable is Positive? Check negative values!

I called it ZIP trap. Helps me a lot especially with number property problems.


Thats cool. 8-)

You can say PINZF (or better) trap as well:

P = positive
I = integer
N = negative
Z = zero
F = fraction
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10. The sum of n consecutive positive integers is 45. What is the value of n?
(1) n is even
(2) n >= 9


1. n could be 2 or 6 or 10

n = 2:
a + a+1 = 45
a = 22

n = 6:
a + a+1 + a+2 + a+3 + a+4 + a+5 = 45
a = 5

2. n could be 9 or 10 or 14 or 15 or 18 & so on...

1&2: n could be 10 or 14 or 18. E.


Did you say "consecutive positive integers"? not only "consecutive integers"?

Agree with B if "consecutive positive integers". If only "consecutive integers", B is correct.

Seems you said "consecutive positive integers"! :oops:
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10. The sum of n consecutive positive integers is 45. What is the value of n?
(1) n is odd
(2) n >= 9

Look at the Q 1 we changed even to odd and n<9 to n>=9

(1) not sufficient see Q1.
(2) As we have consecutive positive integers max for n is 9: 1+2+3+...+9=45. (If n>9=10 first term must be zero. and we are given that all terms are positive) So only case n=9. Sufficient.

Answer: B.


sum of n integers = (n*(n+1))/2

(n*(n+1))/2 = 45 which yields n = 9 could be the only answer :lol:

Stmt 1 and 2 (D) are both sufficient.

Does GMAT assume that we would not indulge in any formula? Just curious :roll:
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I like the concept of ZIP trap

check for 0,-ve and fractions.
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Bunuel wrote:
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10. The sum of n consecutive positive integers is 45. What is the value of n?
(1) n is odd
(2) n >= 9

Look at the Q 1 we changed even to odd and n<9 to n>=9

(1) not sufficient see Q1.
(2) As we have consecutive positive integers max for n is 9: 1+2+3+...+9=45. (If n>9=10 first term must be zero. and we are given that all terms are positive) So only case n=9. Sufficient.

Answer: B.



sum of n integers = (n*(n+1))/2

(n*(n+1))/2 = 45 which yields n = 9 could be the only answer :lol:

Stmt 1 and 2 (D) are both sufficient.

Does GMAT assume that we would not indulge in any formula? Just curious :roll:


This is not correct.

First of all the formula you referring n(1+n)/2 is the formula for counting the sum of n FIRST integers (meaning that starting from 1). Question stem does not give us that information: "The sum of n consecutive positive integers is 45." You can not assume anything.

The formula for counting the sum of consecutive integers (not necessarily first n integers), which is in fact sum of AP (arithmetic progression) is:
Sn=n*(a1+an)/2 or Sn=n*(2a1+d(n-1))/2, you can substitute d=1, as the numbers are consecutive.

If you further substitute a1 (the first term of the progression) with 1 you'll get exactly the formula you wrote: Sn=n(2+n-1)/2=n(n+1)/2

Second, you can find the n consecutive odd positive integers (n=odd) to total 45:
n=3 --> 14, 15, 16
n=5 --> 7, 8, 9, 10, 11.

Hope it's clear.
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3. Multiplication of the two digit numbers wx and cx, where w,x and c are unique non-zero digits, the product is a three digit number. What is w+c-x?

(1) The three digits of the product are all the same and different from w c and x.
(2) x and w+c are odd numbers.

(1) wx+cx=aaa (111, 222, ... 999=37*k) --> As x is the units digit in both numbers, a can be 1,4,6 or 9 (2,3,7 out because x^2 can not end with 2,3, or 7. >>What about 8?5 is out because in that case x also should be 5 and we know that x and a are distinct numbers).
1 is also out because 111=37*3 and we need 2 two digit numbers.
444=37*12 no good we need units digit to be the same.
666=37*18 no good we need units digit to be the same.
999=37*27 is the only possibility all digits are distinct except the unit digits of multiples.
Sufficient

(2) x and w+c are odd numbers.
Number of choices: 13 and 23 or 19 and 29 and w+c-x is the different even number.

Answer: A.


Could somebody please elaborate the solution..i don't understand:(


8 is also not possible.
........................................................................

1. wx * cx = aaa (aaa can only be 111 (for 9), 444 (for 2), 666 (for 8), and 999 (for 3 and 7)). 222, 333, 555, 777, and 888 are not possible as noneo f the unit difgits of the 3 digit numbers is square of an integer.

wx * cx = 111 = 3x37. Not possible as there is only one 2 digit number. Needs 2 two digit numbers.
wx * cx = 444 = 2x3x37 = 6x37. Not possible as there is only one 2 digit number. Needs 2 two digit numbers.
wx * cx = 666 = 2x3x3x37 = 18x37. Not possible as the unit digit of these 2 digit numbers are not the same.
wx * cx = 999 = 3x3x3x37 = 27x37. Possible as the unit digit of these 2 digit numbers are same.


2. is self explanatory..
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please explain 2nd Q.


i want an example where XYZ can be prime using STATEMENT 1 ALONE
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Hi Bunuel.....

Would appreciate if you could explain this in detail as I am confused... :?

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Hi Bunuel.....

Would appreciate if you could explain this in detail as I am confused... :?

Thanks!
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If a and b are integers, and a not= b, is |a|b > 0?
(1) |a^b| > 0
(2) |a|^b is a non-zero integer.

\(|a|b > 0\) is true when \(b>0\) and \(a\) does not equal to zero.

(1) \(|a^b| > 0\) --> \(a\) does not equal to zero, but we don't know about \(b\), it can be any value, positive or negative. Not sufficient.

(2) \(|a|^b\) is a non-zero integer --> \(a\) can be 1 and \(b\) any integer, positive or negative. Not sufficient.

(1)+(2) If a=1 and b=2, then |a|b > 0, but if a=1 and b=-2, then |a|b <0. Not sufficient.

Answer: E.

This is the easiest way to solve this problem. In my previous solution I just tried to show what each statement means algebraically. Please tell which part needs more clarification.
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If a and b are integers, and a not= b, is |a|b > 0?
(1) |a^b| > 0
(2) |a|^b is a non-zero integer.

\(|a|b > 0\) is true when \(b>0\) and \(a\) does not equal to zero.

(1) \(|a^b| > 0\) --> \(a\) does not equal to zero, but we don't know about \(b\), it can be any value, positive or negative. Not sufficient.

(2) \(|a|^b\) is a non-zero integer --> \(a\) can be 1 and \(b\) any integer, positive or negative. Not sufficient.

(1)+(2) If a=1 and b=2, then |a|b > 0, but if a=1 and b=-2, then |a|b <0. Not sufficient.

Answer: E.

This is the easiest way to solve this problem. In my previous solution I just tried to show what each statement means algebraically. Please tell which part needs more clarification.


Not able to get why do you say this (marked in red)... I know that \(|a|\) would always give a positive value, but why cant we consider \(a\) as 2 or 3...? Any reason for this?
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Bunuel wrote:

If a and b are integers, and a not= b, is |a|b > 0?
(1) |a^b| > 0
(2) |a|^b is a non-zero integer.

\(|a|b > 0\) is true when \(b>0\) and \(a\) does not equal to zero.

(1) \(|a^b| > 0\) --> \(a\) does not equal to zero, but we don't know about \(b\), it can be any value, positive or negative. Not sufficient.

(2) \(|a|^b\) is a non-zero integer --> \(a\) can be 1 and \(b\) any integer, positive or negative. Not sufficient.

(1)+(2) If a=1 and b=2, then |a|b > 0, but if a=1 and b=-2, then |a|b <0. Not sufficient.

Answer: E.

This is the easiest way to solve this problem. In my previous solution I just tried to show what each statement means algebraically. Please tell which part needs more clarification.


Not able to get why do you say this (marked in red)... I know that \(|a|\) would always give a positive value, but why cant we consider \(a\) as 2 or 3...? Any reason for this?


OK. For statement (2): First of all I'm not saying that \(a\) can ONLY be 1. I'm saying that it MAY be 1 and in this case \(b\) can take any value statement (2): "\(|a|^b\) is a non-zero integer " to hold true. So \(b\) can take positive as well as negative values, hence \(|a|b > 0\) may or may not be true. That's why (2) is not sufficient.


To elaborate further: we are told that \(|a|^b\) is A. not zero and B. it's an integer.

A. Means that \(a\) is not zero, as the only way \(|a|^b\) to be zero, is \(a\) to be zero.

B. \(|a|^b\) is an integer (non=zero). What does that mean?

When \(a\) is any integer so that \(|a|>1\) (eg 2, -2, 3, -3, ...), \(b\) can take any value but negative. Example: \(a=-3\) --> \(|-3|=3\), \(3\) in integer power (given \(a\) and \(b\) are integers) to be an integer, power (\(b\)), must be positive or zero, as when \(b\) is negative, let's say \(-2\), we'll have: \(3^{-2}=\frac{1}{3^2}\) which is not integer.

But when \(|a|=1\) (\(1\) or \(-1\)), then \(b\) can take ANY integer value as 1 in any power equals to 1 which is integer.

So from statement (2) we'll have:

\(a\) does not equals to 0. Plus, \(b\) can be ANY integer (positive or negative or zero) when \(|a|=1\) and \(b\) must be positive or zero when \(|a|>1\).

Hope it's clear.
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jeeteshsingh,

To further clarify what Bunuel was saying. If b was negative and a was not 1 or -1, then |a|^b would be a fraction due to the properties of negative exponents. If |a|=1 (meaning a=1 or a=-1) then the denominator of the fraction would be some power of 1 which is also one. In this case the fraction would be 1 over 1 which is again 1 and satisfies the conditions.

Also, Bunuel, for the second portion I noticed that you didn't include in your listed possibilities that for |a|^b is a non zero integer, b=0 is possible as it would create an answer of 1 for any value of a including 0.
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jeeteshsingh,

To further clarify what Bunuel was saying. If b was negative and a was not 1 or -1, then |a|^b would be a fraction due to the properties of negative exponents. If |a|=1 (meaning a=1 or a=-1) then the denominator of the fraction would be some power of 1 which is also one. In this case the fraction would be 1 over 1 which is again 1 and satisfies the conditions.

Also, Bunuel, for the second portion I noticed that you didn't include in your listed possibilities that for |a|^b is a non zero integer, b=0 is possible as it would create an answer of 1 for any value of a including 0.


Welcome to the Gmat Club.

Your logic is correct. Though b=0 IS included as one of the possibilities. See the bolded part from the explanation:

Bunuel wrote:
So from statement (2) we'll have:

\(a\) does not equals to 0. Plus, \(b\) can be ANY integer (positive or negative or zero) when \(|a|=1\) and \(b\) must be positive or zero when \(|a|>1\).


You also mention \(0^0\) issue, this not the case for statement 2 (as \(a\) cannot be zero), but still as you brought this up:

\(0^0\), in some sources equals to 1, some mathematicians say it's undefined. Anyway you won't need this for GMAT:

"During the past decade, mathematicians argued extensively about the value of 0^0. Some answer that 0^0 = 1, while others answer that 0^0 is undefined. In the unlikely event that this question appears in some format or is a required intermediary calculation, the correct answer is more likely that 0^0 = 1."
https://www.platinumgmat.com/gmat_study_ ... ial_powers

and:
"Note: the case of 0^0 is not tested on the GMAT."
https://www.manhattangmat.com/np-exponents.cfm
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5. If a and b are integers, and a not= b, is |a|b > 0?
(1) |a^b| > 0
(2) |a|^b is a non-zero integer


|a|b > 0?

|a| is always +ve. So we need to know if b is +ve or -ve.

1.) mod of any number is +ve. Insuff.

2.) |a|^b is an integer.

we know a and b are integers.

so |a| is a +ve integer.

any +ve integer raised to a -ve integer will give us a fraction.

e.g. 4 ^ -3 = 1/ (4^3)

which will never be an integer.

so for |a|^b to be an integer b has to be +ve.

So its suff.

So B.



Hi,Can anyone explain me how |a| is positive?We generally look at the sign of any number before deciding its abs value..Right?But how come that is not followed here?
Generally we take
|x|=-x (x <0)
|x|=x (x>0) but y is |a| taken positive directly?In the question,it is just mentioned as an integer :?

Explanation plz..
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Hi,Can anyone explain me how |a| is positive?We generally look at the sign of any number before deciding its abs value..Right?But how come that is not followed here?
Generally we take
|x|=-x (x <0)
|x|=x (x>0) but y is |a| taken positive directly?In the question,it is just mentioned as an integer :?

Explanation plz..


Seems that you need to brush up on absolute value. Please check Walker's post on Absolute Value at: math-absolute-value-modulus-86462.html

\(|x|=-x\), when \(x<0\) and \(|x|=x\) when \(x>0\) --> CORRECT.

But when \(x=negative<0\) then \(|x|=-x=-(negative)=positive\) and when \(x=positive>0\) then \(|x|=x=positive\), so in any case when \(x\) is either positive or negative \(|x|\) is still positive. There is one more case though: when \(x=0\) then \(|x|=0\).

So generally we can say that absolute value of an expression is alway non-negative: \(|some \ expression|\geq{0}\) --> \(|x|\geq{0}\).

As for this particular question: see my posts on it on pages 1, 2, and 3.

Hope it helps.
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yangsta8 wrote:
Bunuel wrote:
4. Is y – x positive?
(1) y > 0
(2) x = 1 – y


Statement 1) y>0 Not suff, X could be anything larger or smaller than X.
Statement 2) x=1-y
x+y=1
Let x=3 and y=-2 then y-x < 0.
But if x=1/4 and y=3/4 then y-x >0
Not suff.

1 and 2 together)
From the example above we have:
if x=1/4 and y=3/4 then y-x >0
but if we flip it around:
if x=3/4 and y=1/4 then y-x <0
not suff.

ANS = E


I selected that both stmts were sufficient together because the examples I chose worked both ways so if x=-2 y=3 you get 3-(-2)=5 or if y=2 than x = (-1) so 2-(-1)=3. Can the insufficiency only be seen with fractional numbers? Thanks.


Yes, in order to get NO answer you should choose values of x and y from (0, 1), note that this range can give you the YES answer as well.

Is \(y-x>0\)? --> is \(y>x\)?

(1) y > 0, not sufficient as no info about \(x\).
(2) x = 1 - y --> \(x+y=1\) --> the sum of 2 numbers equal to 1 --> we can not say which one is greater. Not sufficient.

(1)+(2) \(x+y=1\) and \(y>0\), still can not determine which one is greater: if \(y=0.1>0\) and \(x=0.9\) then \(y<x\) but if \(y=0.9>0\) and \(x=0.1\) then \(y>x\). Not sufficient.

Answer: E.
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Hi Bunuel

For question # 8, please explain how this is true :

either 4y=32 y=8 x=-3, xy=-24 OR -4y=32

Regards,
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If x and y are non-zero integers and |x| + |y| = 32, what is xy?

(1) \(-4x-12y=0\) --> \(x=-3y\) --> \(x\) and \(y\) have opposite signs.

So either: \(|x|=x\) and \(|y|=-y\) --> in this case \(|x|+|y|=x-y=-3y-y=-4y=32\): \(y=-8\), \(x=24\), \(xy=-24*8\);

OR: \(|x|=-x\) and \(|y|=y\) --> \(|x|+|y|=-x+y=3y+y=4y=32\) --> \(y=8\) and \(x=-24\) --> \(xy=-24*8\), the same answer.

Sufficient.

(2) \(|x| - |y| = 16\). Sum this one with th equations given in the stem --> \(2|x|=48\) --> \(|x|=24\), \(|y|=8\). \(xy=-24*8\) (x and y have opposite sign) or \(xy=24*8\) (x and y have the same sign). Multiple choices. Not sufficient.

Answer: A.
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