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Hi Bunnel,

Is the below solution correct

n = 3q + 2 ==> put values we get 2, 5, 8

n = 4q + 1 ==> put values we get 1, 5, 9

LCM is 12

so number should be 12q + 5

101

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Hi Bunnel,

Is the below solution correct

n = 3q + 2 ==> put values we get 2, 5, 8

n = 4q + 1 ==> put values we get 1, 5, 9

LCM is 12

so number should be 12q + 5

101

Ans : A


i think its working.

lets take a similar example just to verify:

a nymber when divided by 4 gives remainder 2 and when divided by 5 gives remainder 1
LCM of 4 and 5 = 20
now we will calculate first number which is satisfying this condition:
when divided by 4 gives remainder 2: 2 6 10
when divided by 5 gives remainder 1: 1 6 11

hence the number in generalized form = 20k+6
lets verify put k=1...number =26==>satisfies both
k=2....number = 46==>satisfying both...

so thats working.

takeaway:
step 1: find the LCM
step 2: find the first number satisfying both condition ...and then generalise. :-D
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GMAT40 wrote:
Hi Bunnel,

Is the below solution correct

n = 3q + 2 ==> put values we get 2, 5, 8

n = 4q + 1 ==> put values we get 1, 5, 9

LCM is 12

so number should be 12q + 5

101

Ans : A



In Addition,this sum might help with the concept : positive-integer-n-leaves-a-remainder-of-4-after-division-by-93752.html
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GMAT40 wrote:
Hi Bunnel,

Is the below solution correct

n = 3q + 2 ==> put values we get 2, 5, 8

n = 4q + 1 ==> put values we get 1, 5, 9

LCM is 12

so number should be 12q + 5

101

Ans : A


i think its working.

lets take a similar example just to verify:

a nymber when divided by 4 gives remainder 2 and when divided by 5 gives remainder 1
LCM of 4 and 5 = 20
now we will calculate first number which is satisfying this condition:
when divided by 4 gives remainder 2: 2 6 10
when divided by 5 gives remainder 1: 1 6 11

hence the number in generalized form = 20k+6
lets verify put k=1...number =26==>satisfies both
k=2....number = 46==>satisfying both...

so thats working.

takeaway:
step 1: find the LCM
step 2: find the first number satisfying both condition ...and then generalise. :-D


Yes actually the way of solving is getting that X = 12K +5

So then X is a multiple of 12 plus 5.
Only number in the given range is 101

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Let number of cards = x
If the cards are counted 3 at a time , there are 2 left over-
x= 3p+2
x can take values 101 , 104 , 107

If the cards are counted 4 at a time , there is 1 left over
x= 4q+1
x can take values 101 , 105 , 109

Therefore , x = 101

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Hi All,

We're told that there are between 100 and 110 cards in a collection of cards. If the cards are counted out 3 at a time, then there are 2 left over, but if they are counted out 4 at a time, then there is 1 left over. We're asked for the total number of cards in the collection. This question can be approached in a couple of different ways, including by TESTing THE ANSWERS.

When the cards are dealt out in groups of 3, there are 2 'left over'; this means that the total is "2 more" than a multiple of 3. So, when we subtract 2 from each of these answers, which ones are a multiple of 3...?

Answer A: 101 -2 = 99 --> this IS a multiple of 3
Answer B: 103 - 2= 101 --> this is NOT a multiple of 3
Answer C: 106 - 2 = 104 --> this is NOT a multiple of 3
Answer D: 107 - 2 = 105 --> this IS a multiple of 3
Answer E: 109 - 2 = 107 --> this is NOT a multiple of 3

With the 2 remaining answers (Answers A and Answer D), we also know that when the cards are dealt in groups of 4, there is 1 'left over'; this means that the total is "1 more" than a multiple of 4. So when we subtract 1 from each of these two answers, which is a multiple of 4...

Answer A: 101 - 1 = 100 --> this IS a multiple of 4
Answer D: 107 - 1 = 106 --> this is NOT a multiple of 4

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There are between 100 and 110 cards in a collection of cards. If they are counted out 3 at a time, there are 2 left over, but if they are counted out 4 at a time, there is 1 left over. How many cards are in the collection?

(A) 101
(B) 103
(C) 106
(D) 107
(E) 109


So first we can find the set of numbers between 100 and 110 which,when divided by 3, have a reminder of 2.

The set includes: 101, 104, and 107.

Next we can find the set of numbers between 100 and 110 which, when divided by 4, have a reminder of 1.

Teh set includes: 101, 105, and 109.

The number common to both sets provides the answer. Thus, there must be 101 cards in the collection.

Alternate Solution:

Let x represent the number of cards in this collection. Since 2 cards are left over when the cards are counted 3 at a time, the remainder when x is divided by 3 is 2 or, in other words, x = 3s + 2 for some integer s. Since one card is left over when the cards are counted 4 at a time, the remainder when x is divided by 4 is 1 or, in other words, x = 4k + 1 for some integer k.

Notice that if we add 7 to x, we obtain x + 7 = 3s + 9 = 4k + 8. Notice also that x + 7 is divisible by both 3 and 4; therefore it is divisible by 12. Thus, the smallest possible value of x + 7 is 12; which means the smallest possible value of x is 5. Every other possible value of x can be found by adding multiples of 12 to 5; such as 17, 29, 41 etc. If we add 12 x 8 = 96 to 5, we obtain 96 + 5 = 101.

Answer: A
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Given conditions are 3a+2;4k+1 a, k are integers..
Go with options 103,106,107 leave remainder 3 when divided with 4 so straight away eliminate them.
We are left with 101,109...101 leaves remainder 2 when divided by 3.
Answer.. A

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Hit and trial ..
If the card be 101 then and only then after dividing it by 3 and 4 gives remainder 2 and 1.
Therefore option A is perfectly suited

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I follow a different approach.

The number we are looking for (N) meets to conditions:

1) N = 3x + 2
2) N = 4y + 1

For the second condition, we know that the number is odd, since 4y is Even, and Even + 1 = Odd.

So we left with:

101
103
105
107
109

Them we have to apply the divisibility rule of 3 for each of those numbers when substracting 2 from them, since N = 3x + 2, which leave us with the only option possible of 101. (101-2 = 99, and 99 = 3 x 33).
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boomtangboy wrote:
There are between 100 and 110 cards in a collection of cards. If they are counted out 3 at a time, there are 2 left over, but if they are counted out 4 at a time, there is 1 left over. How many cards are in the collection?

(A) 101
(B) 103
(C) 106
(D) 107
(E) 109

If the cards are counted out 3 at a time, there are 2 left over: x=3q+2. From the numbers from 100 to 110 following three give the remainder of 2 upon division by 3: 101, 104 and 107;

If the cards are counted out 4 at a time, there are 1 left over: x=4p+1. From the numbers from 100 to 110 following three give the remainder of 1 upon division by 4: 101, 105 and 109;

Since x, the number of cards, should satisfy both conditions then it equals to 101.

Answer: A.

­I am so confused - when counting by 3's, why would you start with 101 and not 100?
Counting by 3's from a range of 100-110 is: 100, 101, 102 then 103, 104, 105, then 106, 107, 108, with two left over - 109 and 110

I don't understand how the possible numbers of 101, 104, 107 are determined. Can someone please help?­
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Bunuel wrote:
boomtangboy wrote:
There are between 100 and 110 cards in a collection of cards. If they are counted out 3 at a time, there are 2 left over, but if they are counted out 4 at a time, there is 1 left over. How many cards are in the collection?

(A) 101
(B) 103
(C) 106
(D) 107
(E) 109

If the cards are counted out 3 at a time, there are 2 left over: x=3q+2. From the numbers from 100 to 110 following three give the remainder of 2 upon division by 3: 101, 104 and 107;

If the cards are counted out 4 at a time, there are 1 left over: x=4p+1. From the numbers from 100 to 110 following three give the remainder of 1 upon division by 4: 101, 105 and 109;

Since x, the number of cards, should satisfy both conditions then it equals to 101.

Answer: A.

­I am so confused - when counting by 3's, why would you start with 101 and not 100?
Counting by 3's from a range of 100-110 is: 100, 101, 102 then 103, 104, 105, then 106, 107, 108, with two left over - 109 and 110

I don't understand how the possible numbers of 101, 104, 107 are determined. Can someone please help?­

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I think you are missing a point.

When cards are counted out 3 at a time, there are 2 left over, implies that the number of cards is 2 more than a multiple of 3. Given that there are between 100 and 110 cards, then the number of cards can be 101, 104 and 107 (only these number give a remainder of 2 when divided by 3 in the range from 100 to 110).

When cards are counted out 4 at a time, there is 1 left over, implies that the number of cards is 1 more than a multiple of 4. Given that there are between 100 and 110 cards, then the number of cards can be 101, 105 and 109 (only these number give a remainder of 1 when divided by 4 in the range from 100 to 110).

Thus, the number of cards can only be 101 (only 101 is both 2 more than a multiple of 3 and 1 more than a multiple of 4 in the range from 100 to 110).

Hope it's clear.
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