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Hi,

Just for reference, here are my gmat mock scores:

GmatPrep1: 640
GmatPrep2: 660
GmatPrep3: 700
GmatPrep4: 720 Q50 V38 (1 repeat question on quants)
GmatPrep5: 730 Q49 V40 (1 repeat question on quants and 1 on verbal)
GmatPrep6: 740 Q50 V40 (1 repeat question on quants)
MGMAT1: 670
Kaplan: 710

Gave my Gmat today. And i scored 610 Q47V31 :(

The mocks I gave were of the older format, but is such a big drop possible just because of this?

I can tell you that I did not have any pre exam anxiety. I was quite relaxed and the conditions at the centre were great too.
I knew I had made some silly mistakes in Quants and thought Ill make it up in the verbal section, but as soon as I got my score, I just blanked out and cancelled my score.

Gave both Quants and verbal before IR and AWA. I got a 10 on IR and did well on the essay, so I think I definitely wasn't exhausted.

I did feel the RC and CR were tougher than what I had practiced, but I did not expect a 31.

I'm quite demoralised to say the least, I can't help but think that I'm not good enough for a 700. Is a 100 point jump in a month even possible?

Any help on this matter would be much appreciated.


Hey mate,

sorry to hear that. I am certain however, that you are capable of scroring closer to the range of your gmat prep test.

I made a post with some ideas/resources fro verbal earlier today, maybe its of help:

https://gmatclub.com/forum/urgent-need- ... s#p2136744

Best regards & all the best for your next attempt,
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Hi,

Just for reference, here are my gmat mock scores:

GmatPrep1: 640
GmatPrep2: 660
GmatPrep3: 700
GmatPrep4: 720 Q50 V38 (1 repeat question on quants)
GmatPrep5: 730 Q49 V40 (1 repeat question on quants and 1 on verbal)
GmatPrep6: 740 Q50 V40 (1 repeat question on quants)
MGMAT1: 670
Kaplan: 710

Gave my Gmat today. And i scored 610 Q47V31 :(

The mocks I gave were of the older format, but is such a big drop possible just because of this?

I can tell you that I did not have any pre exam anxiety. I was quite relaxed and the conditions at the centre were great too.
I knew I had made some silly mistakes in Quants and thought Ill make it up in the verbal section, but as soon as I got my score, I just blanked out and cancelled my score.

Gave both Quants and verbal before IR and AWA. I got a 10 on IR and did well on the essay, so I think I definitely wasn't exhausted.

I did feel the RC and CR were tougher than what I had practiced, but I did not expect a 31.

I'm quite demoralised to say the least, I can't help but think that I'm not good enough for a 700. Is a 100 point jump in a month even possible?

Any help on this matter would be much appreciated.


Hey mate,

sorry to hear that. I am certain however, that you are capable of scroring closer to the range of your gmat prep test.

I made a post with some ideas/resources fro verbal earlier today, maybe its of help:

Best regards & all the best for your next attempt,
Chris


Appreciate the help Chris. Will go through the mentioned link.
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Sorry to hear that your Gmat didn't go well. There could be some reasons for a low score in the actual test than the mocks. Even GMAC officially states that your actual score could be +/-30 points on the test day. I would suggest to order an ESR. It will tell you the weak points and where you are going wrong and whether you are short on time. Based on that, you can prepare a strategy and work on that. IMO you need to work on both Quant and Verbal. A 100 pt jump may be difficult in a month. Generally it takes about 2-3 months for a 100+ score improvement. If you feel, you can opt for an online course. Some of them offer a specific points increase guarantee. Considering the time shortage you can go through the reviews and ensure to take a free trial before you enroll in any of them.
Hope it helps. All the best.



Hi,

Thanks for the reply. Can I get an ESR even if I've cancelled my score?
I've been preparing for quite a long time to reach 740 in my mocks, do you suppose it'll take me another couple of months to reach that level again? That's quite disheartening. Also, I'm not really in a position to get any online courses, could you kindly list out some free resources from where I can increase my level. I used to give 15 Quants and 15 Verbal 700 level questions everyday from the PS,DS,RC,SC and CR directory of gmatclub. Used to get a 75-80 percent accuracy easily. I still can't figure out where things went wrong.

Edit: Just checked, can get an ESR. Why does it say that the item will be shipped? Will an actual printed report be shipped?
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Thanks for the reply. Can I get an ESR even if I've cancelled my score?
I've been preparing for quite a long time to reach 740 in my mocks, do you suppose it'll take me another couple of months to reach that level again? That's quite disheartening. Also, I'm not really in a position to get any online courses, could you kindly list out some free resources from where I can increase my level. I used to give 15 Quants and 15 Verbal 700 level questions everyday from the PS,DS,RC,SC and CR directory of gmatclub. Used to get a 75-80 percent accuracy easily. I still can't figure out where things went wrong.

Edit: Just checked, can get an ESR. Why does it say that the item will be shipped? Will an actual printed report be shipped?
You'll get an ESR code in an email. Once you have this code, go to your exams ("Past GMAT Exams", in the "My Account" section) and enter that code against the exam that you want the ESR for.
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Just for reference, here are my gmat mock scores:

GmatPrep1: 640
GmatPrep2: 660
GmatPrep3: 700
GmatPrep4: 720 Q50 V38 (1 repeat question on quants)
GmatPrep5: 730 Q49 V40 (1 repeat question on quants and 1 on verbal)
GmatPrep6: 740 Q50 V40 (1 repeat question on quants)

Hi Raj, with a steady 10-20 point increase in every subsequent test, your mock scores show a consistent trend, almost too good to be true. So, your disappointment at the final score is quite understandable.

What were the resources you used for preparation?

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I got a 10 on IR

10?

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Is a 100 point jump in a month even possible?

Normally, it's quite ambitious, but if you are fundamentally well-prepared, perhaps the exam day was an anomaly.
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I am sorry that your scores were not in line with your expectations. I would recommend that you use your ESR to plan your way forward. You may find this article on 3 steps to Analyze your ESR helpful to draw insights from your ESR. On completing this, you should look at this article on Retaking the GMAT – 5 step strategy. This article will help you create a plan to reach your target score. If you have any queries after going through these articles, please feel free to write to us at support@e-gmat. We will be happy to help you create a plan for your GMAT.

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Hi Aditee,

Thanks for the reply. Could you kindly post the 'Retaking the GMAT' link again? It's showing a No page found error on the mentioned link. Also, now that I'm thinking about the exam, I'm thinking that I did rush through the exam, could that have led to low accuracy and a 130 point difference between mock and real exam?
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Hi raj47,

My apologies for the incorrect link earlier. However, I have edited it now so you should be able to read the article.

Regarding your test day experience. Yes rushing through the test might have affected your accuracy but I can not conclusively comment on this until I see the ESR. Having said that 130 points difference just because of rushing seems a little unlikely. Please share your ESR here or on support@e-gmat.com so that we can get better insights on your test day performance.

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I’m sorry to hear how things went with your GMAT. Stay strong, my friend. I’m happy to help get you on the right path. Given that you have ruled out test anxiety/nerves as a possible reason for your score decrease, it’s likely that you have some lingering weaknesses that were exposed on test day, despite scoring as high as 740 on practice tests. Since you scored much lower in verbal, you first will need to address that section. While it’s possible that you could improve from a V31 in just one month, you may need more time. Are you able to take your GMAT at a later date?

To improve your verbal score, try following a study routine that allows you to learn linearly, such that you can slowly build GMAT mastery of one topic prior to moving on to the next. For example, let’s say you start by learning about Critical Reasoning. Your first goal is to fully master the individual Critical Reasoning topics: Strengthen the Argument, Weaken the Argument, Resolve the Paradox, etc. As you learn about each Critical Reasoning question type, do focused practice so that you can track your skill in answering each type. If, for example, you get a weakening question wrong, ask yourself why. Did you make a careless mistake? Did you not recognize the specific Critical Reasoning question type? Were you doing too much analysis in your head? Did you skip over a keyword in an answer choice? You must thoroughly analyze your mistakes and seek to turn weaknesses into strengths by focusing on the question types you dread seeing and the questions you take a long time to answer correctly.

When practicing Reading Comprehension, you need to develop a reading strategy that is both efficient and thorough. Reading too fast and not understanding what you have read are equally as harmful as reading too slow and using up too much time. When attacking Reading Comprehension passages, you must have one clear goal in mind: to understand the context of what you are reading. However, you must do so efficiently, so you need to avoid getting bogged down in the details of each paragraph and instead focus on understanding the main point of each paragraph. That being said, do not fall into the trap of thinking that you can just read the intro and the conclusion and thereby comprehend the main idea of a paragraph. As you read a paragraph, consider how the context of the paragraph relates to previous paragraphs, so you can continue developing your overall understanding of the passage. Furthermore, as you practice Reading Comprehension, focus on the exact types of questions with which you struggle: Find the Main Idea, Inference, Author’s Tone, etc. As with Critical Reasoning, analyze your incorrect Reading Comprehension answers to better determine why you tend to get a particular question type wrong, and then improve upon your weaknesses. You can perfect your reading strategy with a lot of practice, but keep in mind that GMAT Reading Comprehension passages are not meant to be easy to read. So, to better prepare yourself to tackle such passages, read magazines with similar content and style, such as the Economist, Scientific American, and Smithsonian.

Sentence Correction is a bit of a different animal compared to Reading Comprehension and Critical Reasoning. There are three aspects to getting correct answers to GMAT Sentence Correction questions: what you know, such as grammar rules, what you see, such as violations of grammar rules and the logic of sentence structure, and what you do, such as carefully considering each answer choice in the context of the non-underlined portion of the sentence. To drive up your Sentence Correction score, it is likely that you will have to work on all three of those aspects, and it is also likely that your Sentence Correction performance has not improved because you have not been working on all three of those aspects.

Regarding what you know, first and foremost, you MUST know your grammar rules. Let's be clear, though: GMAT Sentence Correction is not really a test of knowledge of grammar rules. The reason for learning the grammar rules is so that you can determine what sentences convey and whether sentences are well-constructed. In fact, in many cases, incorrect answers to Sentence Correction questions are grammatically flawless. Thus, often your task is to use your knowledge of grammar rules to determine which answer choice creates the most logical sentence meaning and structure.

This determination of whether sentences are well-constructed and logical is the second aspect of finding correct answers to Sentence Correction questions, what you see. Likely, the main reason that Sentence Correction has not "clicked" for you is that you have not put enough work into developing your skill in seeing what is going on in the various versions of the sentence that the answer choices create. To develop this skill, you probably have to slow way down. You won't develop this skill by spending under two minutes per question. For a while, anyway, you have to spend time with each question, maybe even ten or fifteen minutes on one question sometimes, analyzing every answer choice until you see the details that you have to see in order to choose the correct answer. As you go through the answer choices, consider the meaning conveyed by each version of the sentence. Does the meaning make sense? Even if you can tell what the version is SUPPOSED to convey, does the version really convey that meaning? Is there a verb to go with the subject? Do all pronouns clearly refer to nouns? By slowing way down and looking for these details, you learn to see what you have to see in order to clearly understand which answer to a Sentence Correction question is correct.

There is only one correct answer to any Sentence Correction question, there are clear reasons why that choice is correct and the others are not, and those reasons are not that the correct version simply "sounds right." In fact, the correct version often sounds a little off at first. That correct answers may sound a little off is not surprising. If the correct answer were always the one that sounded right, then most people most of the time would get Sentence Correction questions correct, without really knowing why the wrong answers were wrong and the correct answers were correct. So, you have to go beyond choosing what "sounds right" and learn to clearly see the logical reasons why one choice is better than all of the others.

As for the third aspect of getting Sentence Correction questions correct, what you do, the main thing you have to do is be very careful. You have to make sure that you are truly considering the structures of sentences and the meanings conveyed rather than allowing yourself to be tricked into choosing trap answers that sound right but don't convey meanings that make sense. You also have to make sure that you put some real energy into finding the correct answers. Finding the correct answer to a Sentence Correction question may take bouncing from choice to choice repeatedly until you start to see the differences between the choices that make all choices wrong except for one. Often, when you first look at the choices, only one or two seem obviously incorrect. It may take time for you to see what you have to see. Getting the right answers takes a certain work ethic. You have to be determined to see the differences and to figure out the precise reasons that one choice is correct.

To improve what you do when you are answering Sentence Correction questions, seek to become aware of how you are going about answering them. Are you being careful and looking for logic and details, or are you quickly eliminating choices that sound a little off, and then choosing the best of the rest? If you choose an incorrect answer, consider what you did that resulted in your arriving at that answer and what you could do differently in order to arrive at correct answers more consistently. Furthermore, see how many questions you can get correct in a row as you practice. If you break your streak by missing one, consider what you could have done differently to extend your streak.

As with your Critical Reasoning and Reading Comprehension regimens, after learning a particular Sentence Correction topic, engage in focused practice with 30 questions or more that involve that topic. As your Sentence Correction skills improve, you will then want to practice with questions that test you on skills from multiple Sentence Correction topics.

So, work on accuracy and generally finding correct answers, work on specific weaker areas one by one to make them strong areas, and when you take a practice GMAT or the real thing, take all the time per question available to do your absolute best to get right answers consistently. The GMAT is essentially a game of seeing how many right answers you can get in the time allotted. Approach the test with that conception in mind, and focus intently on the question in front of you with one goal in mind: getting a CORRECT answer.

Since you scored 47 in quant, you can follow a similar process for that section, albeit a bit more streamlined. For example, if you are reviewing Number Properties, be sure that you practice 50 or more questions just from Number Properties: LCM, GCF, units digit patterns, divisibility, remainders, etc. When you are working on learning to answer questions of a particular type, start off taking your time, and then seek to speed up as you get more comfortable answering questions of that type.

As you do such practice, do a thorough analysis of each question that you don't get right. If you got a remainder question wrong, ask yourself why. Did you make a careless mistake? Did you not properly apply the remainder formula? Was there a concept you did not understand in the question? By carefully analyzing your mistakes, you will be able to efficiently fix your weaknesses and in turn improve your GMAT quant skills. Number Properties is just one example; follow this process for all quant topics.

Once you feel you have improved your skills, resume taking practice tests. Since you have exhausted the GMATPrep exams, you probably need to take exams from other companies. I’d take a look at the reviews here on GMAT Club to determine which exams to take.

You also may find my article with more information regarding
how to score a 700+ on the GMAT helpful.

Feel free to reach out with any further questions.

Good luck!
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raj47 wrote:
Hi,

Just for reference, here are my gmat mock scores:

GmatPrep1: 640
GmatPrep2: 660
GmatPrep3: 700
GmatPrep4: 720 Q50 V38 (1 repeat question on quants)
GmatPrep5: 730 Q49 V40 (1 repeat question on quants and 1 on verbal)
GmatPrep6: 740 Q50 V40 (1 repeat question on quants)
MGMAT1: 670
Kaplan: 710

Gave my Gmat today. And i scored 610 Q47V31 :(

The mocks I gave were of the older format, but is such a big drop possible just because of this?

I can tell you that I did not have any pre exam anxiety. I was quite relaxed and the conditions at the centre were great too.
I knew I had made some silly mistakes in Quants and thought Ill make it up in the verbal section, but as soon as I got my score, I just blanked out and cancelled my score.

Gave both Quants and verbal before IR and AWA. I got a 10 on IR and did well on the essay, so I think I definitely wasn't exhausted.

I did feel the RC and CR were tougher than what I had practiced, but I did not expect a 31.

I'm quite demoralised to say the least, I can't help but think that I'm not good enough for a 700. Is a 100 point jump in a month even possible?

Any help on this matter would be much appreciated.

I would also like to know what mocks can I give now, the Mock 1-6 i purchased a while back are all of the older format, and I did try taking 1 and 2 again with the new format and all questions were repeats. Any way I can get new questions with new format?


Bad luck, if you're really unlucky, could theoretically account for an 80 point difference between two scores. Any given GMAT score is only accurate to within 30-40 points of your "real ability" (which is basically the average score you'd get if you took the test an infinite number of times.) If one score was 40 points too high, and the next score was 40 points too low, that would look like an 80 point drop without any actual change in your underlying ability.

That said, the fact that you scored 700+ many times on practice tests makes me think that this wasn't just bad luck. (You didn't just get worse at the GMAT overnight, either, but there's probably something happening here.) Was there anything different in how you approached the official test? Did you guess less (or more) on test day? Did you use your scratch paper differently? Handle your timing differently?

As for your question about practice tests - if you purchase the full set of Manhattan Prep tests, they'll all be in the new format.
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