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If a and b are both positive integers such that a < b, which of the following must be true?


(A) \(a < \sqrt{ab} <b\)

(B) \(\sqrt{a} < \sqrt{ab} < \sqrt{b}\)

(C) \(\sqrt{a} < \sqrt{b} < \sqrt{ab}\)

(D) \(\sqrt{ab}<a<b\)

(D) \(a<\sqrt{ab}<\sqrt{b}\)

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If a and b are both positive integers such that a < b, which of the following must be true?


(A) \(a < \sqrt{ab} <b\)

(B) \(\sqrt{a} < \sqrt{ab} < \sqrt{b}\)

(C) \(\sqrt{a} < \sqrt{b} < \sqrt{ab}\)

(D) \(\sqrt{ab}<a<b\)

(D) \(a<\sqrt{ab}<\sqrt{b}\)


\(a=\sqrt{aa}\) and b=\(\sqrt{bb}\)since a<b...... \(\sqrt{aa}<\sqrt{ab}<\sqrt{bb}.......................a<\sqrt{ab}<b\)

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If a and b are both positive integers such that a < b, which of the following must be true?


(A) \(a < \sqrt{ab} <b\)

(B) \(\sqrt{a} < \sqrt{ab} < \sqrt{b}\)

(C) \(\sqrt{a} < \sqrt{b} < \sqrt{ab}\)

(D) \(\sqrt{ab}<a<b\)

(D) \(a<\sqrt{ab}<\sqrt{b}\)


Let a=4 & b=16 (a<b)
(A) \(a < \sqrt{ab} <b\): 4<8<16 (True)
(B) \(\sqrt{a} < \sqrt{ab} < \sqrt{b}\): 2<8<4 (False)
(C) \(\sqrt{a} < \sqrt{b} < \sqrt{ab}\): 2<4<8 (False)
(D) \(\sqrt{ab}<a<b\): 8<4<16 (False)
(E) \(a<\sqrt{ab}<\sqrt{b}\): 2<8<4 (False)

Ans. (A)

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If I choose a = 1 and b = 2 (both positive integers), then sqrt(b) = sqrt(ab).
So no option "must be true". Did I miss anything?
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If I choose a = 1 and b = 2 (both positive integers), then sqrt(b) = sqrt(ab).
So no option "must be true". Did I miss anything?


Hi rohithtv89,
Let's check options A to E with your chosen (a,b), i.e. (1,2)

(A) \(a < \sqrt{ab} <b\): \(1<\sqrt{2}=1.41(approx.)<2\) (True)
(B) \(\sqrt{a} < \sqrt{ab} < \sqrt{b}\): \(1<\sqrt{2}<\sqrt{2}\) (False)
(C) \(\sqrt{a} < \sqrt{b} < \sqrt{ab}\): \(1<\sqrt{2}<\sqrt{2}\) (False)
(D) \(\sqrt{ab}<a<b\): \(\sqrt{2}<1<2\) (False)
(E) \(a<\sqrt{ab}<\sqrt{b}\): \(1<\sqrt{2}<\sqrt{2}\)(False)

You might have checked option A with \(\sqrt{b}\) but it is 'b' only.
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Hi PKN. Yes. I didn't read it correctly. Thanks for pointing that out!
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Why option C is not correct. If I take a as 4 and b as 9.
Than √4=2 less than √9=3 less than √4*9=6.

What I am missing here.

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Why option C is not correct. If I take a as 4 and b as 9.
Than √4=2 less than √9=3 less than √4*9=6.

What I am missing here.

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Hi Orionstar,
First of all, this is a MUST BE TRUE question. We have to find out the correct relationship among a,b, \(\sqrt{a}\),\(\sqrt{b}\), and \(\sqrt{ab}\) in terms of magnitude. And that relationship MUST HOLD TRUE at all the possible positive integer values of a and b, available in the universe. (with the given limitation:- a<b)

With the chosen pairing (4,9), the relationship in C is true. Is the given relationship in option 'C" true for all positive integer values of a and b? Answer is No (Say a=1 , b=2, (a<b))
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If a and b are both positive integers such that a < b, which of the following must be true?


(A) \(a < \sqrt{ab} <b\)

(B) \(\sqrt{a} < \sqrt{ab} < \sqrt{b}\)

(C) \(\sqrt{a} < \sqrt{b} < \sqrt{ab}\)

(D) \(\sqrt{ab}<a<b\)

(D) \(a<\sqrt{ab}<\sqrt{b}\)


If we let a = 4 and b = 9, we see that only A is true, since √(4 x 9) = √36 = 6.

Answer: A
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Bunuel wrote:
If a and b are both positive integers such that a < b, which of the following must be true?


(A) \(a < \sqrt{ab} <b\)

(B) \(\sqrt{a} < \sqrt{ab} < \sqrt{b}\)

(C) \(\sqrt{a} < \sqrt{b} < \sqrt{ab}\)

(D) \(\sqrt{ab}<a<b\)

(D) \(a<\sqrt{ab}<\sqrt{b}\)


Let a=4 & b=16 (a<b)
(A) \(a < \sqrt{ab} <b\): 4<8<16 (True)
(B) \(\sqrt{a} < \sqrt{ab} < \sqrt{b}\): 2<8<4 (False)
(C) \(\sqrt{a} < \sqrt{b} < \sqrt{ab}\): 2<4<8 (False)
(D) \(\sqrt{ab}<a<b\): 8<4<16 (False)
(E) \(a<\sqrt{ab}<\sqrt{b}\): 2<8<4 (False)

Ans. (A)

P.S.- Perfect square are chosen for checking purpose since square roots are involved in the answer choices.



PKN hey there, can you please explain how can option C be wrong. 2<4<8 if A=2 B= 4 o correct 2<4 or a<b so what`s wring with it :) ?

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Bunuel wrote:
If a and b are both positive integers such that a < b, which of the following must be true?


(A) \(a < \sqrt{ab} <b\)

(B) \(\sqrt{a} < \sqrt{ab} < \sqrt{b}\)

(C) \(\sqrt{a} < \sqrt{b} < \sqrt{ab}\)

(D) \(\sqrt{ab}<a<b\)

(D) \(a<\sqrt{ab}<\sqrt{b}\)


Let a=4 & b=16 (a<b)
(A) \(a < \sqrt{ab} <b\): 4<8<16 (True)
(B) \(\sqrt{a} < \sqrt{ab} < \sqrt{b}\): 2<8<4 (False)
(C) \(\sqrt{a} < \sqrt{b} < \sqrt{ab}\): 2<4<8 (False)
(D) \(\sqrt{ab}<a<b\): 8<4<16 (False)
(E) \(a<\sqrt{ab}<\sqrt{b}\): 2<8<4 (False)

Ans. (A)

P.S.- Perfect square are chosen for checking purpose since square roots are involved in the answer choices.



PKN hey there, can you please explain how can option C be wrong. 2<4<8 if A=2 B= 4 o correct 2<4 or a<b so what`s wring with it :) ?

thanks and have a great day !:-)


Hi dave13 ,
Have a great day!!

First of all, this is a MUST BE TRUE question. We have to find out the correct relationship among a,b, a√a,b√b, and ab−−√ab in terms of magnitude. And that relationship MUST HOLD TRUE at all the possible positive integer values of a and b, available in the universe. (with the given limitation:- a<b)

With the chosen pairing (2,4), the relationship in C is true(1.41<2<2.82). Is the given relationship in option 'C" true for all positive integer values of a and b? Answer is No (Say a=1 , b=2, (a<b))

The correct answer option or relationship must hold true for all positive integers a and b (a<b), not on a piecemeal basis:-), true in some cases and false in other cases. Hence, options C is discarded.


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Hi PKN

In this question, is there a chance that SQRT(A*B) is negetive?
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In this question, is there a chance that SQRT(A*B) is negetive?


\(\sqrt{}\) denotes a function. Mathematically the square root function cannot give negative result. When the GMAT provides the square root sign for an even root, such as \(\sqrt{x}\) or \(\sqrt[4]{x}\), then the only accepted answer is the positive root.

That is, \(\sqrt{25}=5\), NOT +5 or -5. In contrast, the equation \(x^2=25\) has TWO solutions, +5 and -5. Even roots have only a positive value on the GMAT.

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\(\sqrt{n}\) denotes the positive number whose square is n.
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In this question, is there a chance that SQRT(A*B) is negetive?


Hi ETLim,

Since it is mentioned in the question stem that 'a' and 'b' are positive integers, hence multiplication of two positive integers will always yield a positive integer. Therefore, a*b=positive. Hence, \(\sqrt{ab}=\sqrt{{positive}}=Positive\) in GMAT.
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If a and b are both positive integers such that a < b, which of the following must be true?


(A) \(a < \sqrt{ab} <b\)

(B) \(\sqrt{a} < \sqrt{ab} < \sqrt{b}\)

(C) \(\sqrt{a} < \sqrt{b} < \sqrt{ab}\)

(D) \(\sqrt{ab}<a<b\)

(E) \(a<\sqrt{ab}<\sqrt{b}\)



Let's think to DISAPPROVE the choices

a=1 & b=2

(A) \(a < \sqrt{ab} <b\).............(A) \(1 < \sqrt{2} <2\).............Keep

(B) \(\sqrt{1} < \sqrt{2} < \sqrt{2}\).................Eliminate

(C) \(\sqrt{1} < \sqrt{2} < \sqrt{2}\).................Eliminate

(D) \(\sqrt{2}<1<2\)..................................................Eliminate

(E) \(1<\sqrt{2}<\sqrt{2}\)...............................................Eliminate

Answer: A
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Can you please explain the highlighted text in chetan2u 's approach?

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\(a=\sqrt{aa}\) and b=\(\sqrt{bb}\)since a<b...... \(\sqrt{aa}<\sqrt{ab}<\sqrt{bb}\)......................\(.a<\sqrt{ab}<b\)


I could not proceed from \(\sqrt{a}\) \(\sqrt{b}\) = \(\sqrt{ab}\)
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Can you please explain the highlighted text in chetan2u 's approach?

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If a and b are both positive integers such that a < b, which of the following must be true?


Quote:
\(a=\sqrt{aa}\) and b=\(\sqrt{bb}\)since a<b...... \(\sqrt{aa}<\sqrt{ab}<\sqrt{bb}\)......................\(.a<\sqrt{ab}<b\)


I could not proceed from \(\sqrt{a}\) \(\sqrt{b}\) = \(\sqrt{ab}\)


Hi adkikani ,

First of all, you must be knowing the following property of exponent:-
\((a^m)*(a^n)=a^{m+n}\)
Let \(m=n=\frac{1}{2}\), now \(a^{\frac{1}{2}} * a^{\frac{1}{2}}=a^{\frac{1}{2}+\frac{1}{2}}\)=a----(1)
Also, you know, \(a^{1/2}=\sqrt{a}\)-------(b)

Now moving to the question:-

Given a<b, --------------(c)
I am sure we can write \(a=\sqrt{a}*\sqrt{a}\) & \(b=\sqrt{b}*\sqrt{b}\)
Substituting in (c), we have
\(\sqrt{a}*\sqrt{a} < \sqrt{b}*\sqrt{b}\)-----(d)

Again, a<b (You know we can multiply positive numbers on both sides of the inequality)(Given a and b are positive integers)
Or, \(a*b<b^2\) (multiplying 'b' both sides)
Or, \(\sqrt{ab}<\sqrt{b^2}\) (we can take square root on both sides of inequalities when they are positive)
Or, \(\sqrt{ab}< b\)------------------(e)
Similarly, b>a (You know we can multiply positive numbers on both sides of the inequality)(Given a and b are positive integers)
Or, \(b*a>a^2\) (multiplying 'a' both sides)
Or, \(\sqrt{ab}>\sqrt{a^2}\) (we can take square root on both sides of inequalities when they are positive)
Or, \(\sqrt{ab}> a\)------------------(f)
Combining (d),(e), and (f), we have \(a<\sqrt{ab}<b\)

We have derived it.
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