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If [z] denotes the greatest integer less than or equal to z and [z] = 1 which of the following statements must be true? A. z = 1 B. 2 <= z < 1 C. 2 < z <= 1 D. 1 <= z < 0 E. 1 < z <= 0 Attachment:
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Bunuel wrote: If question asks " [z] denotes the greatest integer less than or equal to z and [z] = 0", then can we say 0<=Z<1 ? Regards, Ammu



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Bunuel wrote: Hi Bunuel, Just a question. Why do you think it could not be A?



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09 Oct 2014, 04:21
But the question states that it is an integer... What do I missing?



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Bunuel wrote: gbascurs wrote: But the question states that it is an integer... What do I missing? The questions says that [z ] is an integer, not z. Please reread the question and solution and follow the links to the similar problems to understand better. Thanks for your reply, I get it.



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30 Oct 2014, 22:55
Dear Bunuel,
Although I completely agree that the answer is indeed option D here, however option A is not wrong also. If we plug in the value given in option A, we indeed satisfy the condition given. Does the inclusion of option A not make choosing the correct answer slightly ambiguous. I mean why give an option such as A at all in the exam. What trick am I missing here?
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madhavmarda wrote: Dear Bunuel,
Although I completely agree that the answer is indeed option D here, however option A is not wrong also. If we plug in the value given in option A, we indeed satisfy the condition given. Does the inclusion of option A not make choosing the correct answer slightly ambiguous. I mean why give an option such as A at all in the exam. What trick am I missing here?
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Madhav The question asks which of the following statements MUST be true, not could be true. z could be 1, but it could also be, for example, 1/2. Thus A is not a statement which must be true. Check other Rounding Functions Questions in our Special Questions Directory. Hope it helps.
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Bunuel wrote: madhavmarda wrote: Dear Bunuel,
Although I completely agree that the answer is indeed option D here, however option A is not wrong also. If we plug in the value given in option A, we indeed satisfy the condition given. Does the inclusion of option A not make choosing the correct answer slightly ambiguous. I mean why give an option such as A at all in the exam. What trick am I missing here?
Thanks in advance,
Madhav The question asks which of the following statements MUST be true, not could be true. z could be 1, but it could also be, for example, 1/2. Thus A is not a statement which must be true. Check other Rounding Functions Questions in our Special Questions Directory. Hope it helps. I really cannot understand why A cannot be the answer. Z=1 [Z] = 1 Condition satisfies. I have read the theory and solved all the questions in the link, I don't know what am I missing



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anewbeginning wrote: Bunuel wrote: madhavmarda wrote: Dear Bunuel,
Although I completely agree that the answer is indeed option D here, however option A is not wrong also. If we plug in the value given in option A, we indeed satisfy the condition given. Does the inclusion of option A not make choosing the correct answer slightly ambiguous. I mean why give an option such as A at all in the exam. What trick am I missing here?
Thanks in advance,
Madhav The question asks which of the following statements MUST be true, not could be true. z could be 1, but it could also be, for example, 1/2. Thus A is not a statement which must be true. Check other Rounding Functions Questions in our Special Questions Directory. Hope it helps. I really cannot understand why A cannot be the answer. Z=1 [Z] = 1 Condition satisfies. I have read the theory and solved all the questions in the link, I don't know what am I missing The question is a MUST BE TRUE for ALL values. Not a could be true. Had this question been a 'could be true" question, then you would have stopped at option A itself and moved to the next question. But as this is a MUST BE TRUE question, you need to make sure that [z] =1 is ONLY satisfied by z =1 from the given options (and not by any other option). The correct answer to a MUST BE TRUE question, will nullify all other options. This is a very important point to remember. We are not denying that z = 1 is not true but what we are mentioning is that is it the ONLY possible choice ? Not necessarily z = 0.5 also satisfies the given condition. So if z = 0.5 also satisfies the given condition, then option D is true as well (along with option A, per your statement). A question can not have 2 correct answers. As I said before, in a MUST BE TRUE question, 1. Get the option(s) that satisfy a given condition 2. Eliminate all but 1 options. The remaining option will be the correct answer. There will always be concrete reasons to eliminate other options. If you are not able to eliminate options, then you are missing some important information. Unless you take care of both the options, you can not be sure of your answer. For this question, I adopted the following method: 1. Used z =0.5 to eliminate options AC 2. Used z = 0 to eliminate option E. If z =0 then [z] = 0 and \(\neq\) 1 The only option remaining after the 2 steps above was D and is the correct answer.



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Engr2012 wrote: Dear Bunuel,
The question is a MUST BE TRUE for ALL values. Not a could be true. Had this question been a 'could be true" question, then you would have stopped at option A itself and moved to the next question.
But as this is a MUST BE TRUE question, you need to make sure that [z] =1 is ONLY satisfied by z =1 from the given options (and not by any other option). The correct answer to a MUST BE TRUE question, will nullify all other options. This is a very important point to remember. We are not denying that z = 1 is not true but what we are mentioning is that is it the ONLY possible choice ? Not necessarily z = 0.5 also satisfies the given condition.  This helped
So if z = 0.5 also satisfies the given condition, then option D is true as well (along with option A, per your statement). A question can not have 2 correct answers.
As I said before, in a MUST BE TRUE question,
1. Get the option(s) that satisfy a given condition 2. Eliminate all but 1 options. The remaining option will be the correct answer. There will always be concrete reasons to eliminate other options. If you are not able to eliminate options, then you are missing some important information.
Unless you take care of both the options, you can not be sure of your answer.
For this question, I adopted the following method:
1. Used z =0.5 to eliminate options AC 2. Used z = 0 to eliminate option E. If z =0 then [z] = 0 and \(\neq\) 1
The only option remaining after the 2 steps above was D and is the correct answer. Great explanation. I am fully satisfied with the explanation. Thanks a lot
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anewbeginning wrote: Engr2012 wrote: Dear Bunuel,
The question is a MUST BE TRUE for ALL values. Not a could be true. Had this question been a 'could be true" question, then you would have stopped at option A itself and moved to the next question.
But as this is a MUST BE TRUE question, you need to make sure that [z] =1 is ONLY satisfied by z =1 from the given options (and not by any other option). The correct answer to a MUST BE TRUE question, will nullify all other options. This is a very important point to remember. We are not denying that z = 1 is not true but what we are mentioning is that is it the ONLY possible choice ? Not necessarily z = 0.5 also satisfies the given condition.  This helped
So if z = 0.5 also satisfies the given condition, then option D is true as well (along with option A, per your statement). A question can not have 2 correct answers.
As I said before, in a MUST BE TRUE question,
1. Get the option(s) that satisfy a given condition 2. Eliminate all but 1 options. The remaining option will be the correct answer. There will always be concrete reasons to eliminate other options. If you are not able to eliminate options, then you are missing some important information.
Unless you take care of both the options, you can not be sure of your answer.
For this question, I adopted the following method:
1. Used z =0.5 to eliminate options AC 2. Used z = 0 to eliminate option E. If z =0 then [z] = 0 and \(\neq\) 1
The only option remaining after the 2 steps above was D and is the correct answer. [/quote] Awesome explanation.I am not satisfied with the explanation. Thanks a lot A lot of Kudos to you[/quote] So are you or are you not satisfied with the explanation?



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I'm sorry that was a TYPO Engr2012I apologise for the same Cheers



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Bunuel wrote: Thank you for the links. It helps as always!!



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