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Re: In the figure, point D divides side BC of triangle ABC into segments [#permalink]
EgmatQuantExpert wrote:
ashtitude wrote:
@Bunnel

Can you please explain how this is derived?

"As ODB is an isosceles triangle"


Hi ashtitude,

Using image drawn by Bunuel for explanation here.

You can observe in the figure that triangle OCD is a 30-60-90 triangle, hence it sides will be in the ratio 1:√3:2. Since CD = 2, we will have OD = 1. So in triangle OBD we have OD = BD = 1 which makes ODB an isosceles triangle.



Hope this helps :)

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Nice explanation. What confuses me more is, how do we know that AOB is isosceles?
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Re: In the figure, point D divides side BC of triangle ABC into segments [#permalink]
vigrah wrote:
say angle CAB=y
since sum of angles in a triangle is 180
x+y+45=180
x+y=135 equation 1

line AD is dividing BC in 2:1 ratio
hence
X+2/3Y+60=180
X+2/3y=120 equation 2
solving equation 1 &2 we get x=75
answer is D


This looks much more simple!

Just so I am clear because line AD bisects line CB in a two to 1 ratio we can calculate the breakdown of angles at vertex A?

Thanks for your help
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Re: In the figure, point D divides side BC of triangle ABC into segments [#permalink]
vigrah wrote:
say angle CAB=y
since sum of angles in a triangleis 180\
x+y+45=180
x+y=135 equation 1

line AD is dividing BC in 2:1 ratio
hence
X+2/3Y+60=180
X+2/3y=120 equation 2
solving equation 1 &2 we get x=75
answer is D



This DOES NOT give us the correct solution. There is a calculation mistake here. Using the calculation mentioned, we get x=90 which is incorrect. This basically implies that the statement
"line AD is dividing BC in 2:1 ratio - > therefore corresponding angles also get divided in the same proportion" is invalid. The only way to go forward is to follow the approach that Bunuel mentioned.

Hope this helps clear the confusion around this.

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Re: In the figure, point D divides side BC of triangle ABC into segments [#permalink]
Hi bunuel,

Sorry for bumping. A quick question.

How do we know that AD is not equal to 1. If it is equal to 1 then the ratio 2:1 when a perpendicular is drawn does not hold good right? Am i missing something?
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Re: In the figure, point D divides side BC of triangle ABC into segments [#permalink]
vigrah wrote:
say angle CAB=y
since sum of angles in a triangle is 180
x+y+45=180
x+y=135 equation 1

line AD is dividing BC in 2:1 ratio
hence
X+2/3Y+60=180
X+2/3y=120 equation 2
solving equation 1 &2 we get x=75
answer is D


Bunnel/Experts,

I have a doubt here.I understand angles and sides ratio will be proportional.

So If I see angle opposite to side with lenght 1 is 15 degree .So why not we
directly comprehend angle opposite to CB(3 units) is 45 degrees.

from this I will get angle y as 45 degrees
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Re: In the figure, point D divides side BC of triangle ABC into segments [#permalink]
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prabsahi wrote:
vigrah wrote:
say angle CAB=y
since sum of angles in a triangle is 180
x+y+45=180
x+y=135 equation 1

line AD is dividing BC in 2:1 ratio
hence
X+2/3Y+60=180
X+2/3y=120 equation 2
solving equation 1 &2 we get x=75
answer is D


Bunnel/Experts,

I have a doubt here.I understand angles and sides ratio will be proportional.

So If I see angle opposite to side with lenght 1 is 15 degree .So why not we
directly comprehend angle opposite to CB(3 units) is 45 degrees.

from this I will get angle y as 45 degrees


The solution you are quoting is not correct. Please check the discussion on previous pages.
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Re: In the figure, point D divides side BC of triangle ABC into segments [#permalink]
This was indeed a difficult question. After looking at Bunuel's solution, it became obvious. However, solving a question like this on exam day might be too much.

Bunuel - is there a rationale (and is it obvious?) that you chose to drop a perpendicular from C to AD?
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Re: In the figure, point D divides side BC of triangle ABC into segments [#permalink]
Probably one of the hardest geometry questions I have come across. Stared at the solutions for 10 mins trying to figure it out.....
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Re: In the figure, point D divides side BC of triangle ABC into segments [#permalink]
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enigma123 wrote:


In the figure, point D divides side BC of triangle ABC into segments BD and DC of lengths 1 and 2 units respectively. Given that ÐADC = 60º and ÐABD = 45º, what is the measure of angle x in degrees? (Note:
Figure is not drawn to scale.)

(A) 55
(B) 60
(C) 70
(D) 75
(E) 90

Any idea guys what will be the correct answer please? Also any idea how can I cut and paste the pictures in my post? Is it possible?


Complete solution for all the angles is in the image below:



x=45+30=75.

Notes:
Sides with one blue segment crossing them are equal and sides with two blues segments crossing them are equal too.

CO is perpendicular to AD --> OD=1 (from 30-60-90 right triangle property as sides are in ratio \(1:\sqrt{3}:2\)) --> as OD=BD=1 then ODB is an isosceles triangle.

<CDO and <BDO are supplementary to each other (supplementary angles are two angles that add up to 180°), so <BDO=120 --> <DAB=180-(120+45)=15.

As ODB is an isosceles triangle --> <DOB=<DBO=30. <OBA=45-30=15 --> AOB is an isosceles triangle, so OA=OB. Also COB is an isosceles triangle, so CO=OB --> OA=CO=OB. So, AOC is an isosceles triangle --> <CAO=<OCA=45 (as <COA=90) --> x=45+30=75.

Answer: D.

P.S. You can attach image files directly to the post.

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Hey, but this violates one of the cardinal rules of Triangles. The sum of any two angles in a Triangle should always be treated then the third angle. In this if <ADB is 120, then Angle <ABD + <BAD should be greater than <ADB, but it is not the case. it is less than 120 degrees. Please correct me if I'm wrong
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Re: In the figure, point D divides side BC of triangle ABC into segments [#permalink]
1. Draw the perpendicular from point C to AD. Name this point as E. YOu have all the angles of the ∆ CED with the right angle at E.
2. From the right angle properties, length ED =1 and CE =√3
3. Join B and E now. ∆ BED will be an isosceles triangle as ED and DB are both of equal length.
4. ∠EDB = 120°, ∠BED = ∠DBE = 30°
5. Now focus on ∆CEB
Notice that this triangle is an ISOSCELES triangle because ∠ECB = ∠EBC = 30°
This means that side EC = side EB
6. Now in ∆AEB
It's again an Isosceles triangle. Side AE = Side EB
7. From 5 and 6, Side AE = Side EC. Thus ∆AEC is also an isosceles triangle.
This ∠ACE = ∠EAC = 45°

so, ANSWER ∠ACD = 30° + 45° = 75°, i.e. D.
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