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More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake Baikal, which holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.


(A) More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake Baikal, which holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

(B) With 20 percent of the world's fresh water, that is more than all the North American Great Lakes combined, Siberia's Lake Baikal has more than 300 rivers that drain into it.

(C) Siberia's Lake Baikal, with more than 300 rivers draining into it, it holds more of the world's fresh water than all that of the North American Great Lakes combined, 20 percent.

(D) While more than 300 rivers drain into it, Siberia's lake Baikal holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, which is more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

(E) More than all the North American Great Lakes combined, Siberia's Lake Baikal, with more than 300 rivers draining into it, holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water.


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Can someone please explain what the modifier "more than all the North American Great Lakes combined" is modifying? Is it modifying previous modifier or is it modifying the main clause. Of late, I have been seeing such constructions, and really want to understand how such constructions work.

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I'm responding to your pm, and I am happy to help. :-)

More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake Baikal, which holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

One way to think about it is: exactly what is "more than all the North American Great Lakes combined"? The Great Lakes, as lakes, are fresh water, so we are comparing them to another quantity of fresh water --- "20 percent of the world's fresh water", a noun phrase that is the object of the the noun-modifying phrase beginning with "more than all ..." Not surprisingly, the modifier touches the noun, in accordance with the Modifier Touch Rule. See this blog for more on that rule:
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While there are exceptions to the Modifier Touch Rule, that's an exactly place to start to look for the noun modified.

Keep in mind that modifiers are a part of what the GMAT calls "Logical Predication" on the the SC ----- in other words, to make sense of whether modifiers are used correctly and what they are modifying, you have to look beyond the grammar of a sentence to the logic & meaning, which are more primary. See this blog for more on that:
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For some reason, a large percentage of my students hate this question with the fury of a thousand suns. But you’ll love it… right?

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(A) More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake Baikal, which holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

I don’t really see any problems with (A). The “which” jumps out at me, but that seems fine, since “which holds 20% of the world’s fresh water” logically modifies “Siberia’s Lake Baikal.” That last modifier seems fine, too: “more than all the North American Great Lakes combined” describes “20% of the world’s fresh water.”

So I guess we’ll keep (A), and hope that the other four answer choices have problems.

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(B) With 20 percent of the world's fresh water, that is more than all the North American Great Lakes combined, Siberia's Lake Baikal has more than 300 rivers that drain into it.

I’m not sure that anything is WRONG with (B), but there are three or four things that are spectacularly crappy about (B). (Craptacular? That’s not a word, but it should be.)

For starters, “with 20% of the world’s fresh water” is a lousy way to modify “Siberia’s Lake Baikal.” The preposition “with” generally suggests accompaniment of some sort (“I eat burritos with green chile” or “I went to the movies with my daughter”), and I can’t understand why we would use “with” in this context. Plus, it’s a long way from the thing it modifies. Again, I can’t prove that it’s WRONG, but it’s not great.

I also can’t make sense of the middle modifier, “that is more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.” For starters, I can’t figure out why we’re using a modifier beginning with “that” immediately after a comma. More importantly, the comparison doesn’t work: it’s basically saying that 20% of the world’s fresh water is more than the Great Lakes. You could say that the amount of water in Lake Baikal is greater than the amount of water in the Great Lakes, but it isn’t awesome to say that the amount of water is greater than the lakes themselves.

Finally, there’s no reason to write “…Lake Baikal has more than 300 rivers that drain into it” when we could use a more active construction (“more than 300 rivers drain into Lake Baikal”). The version in (B) isn’t WRONG, exactly, but it’s pretty craptacular compared to (A).

So we can ditch (B).

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(C) Siberia's Lake Baikal, with more than 300 rivers draining into it, it holds more of the world's fresh water than all that of the North American Great Lakes combined, 20 percent.

The most straightforward problem with (B) is that the subject is basically repeated twice: “Siberia’s Lake Baikal, (blah blah modifier), it holds…” That’s definitely not cool.

For bonus points, the modifier beginning with “with” still doesn’t seem quite right (see the explanation to (B) for more on that issue), and the comparison isn’t quite right, either: “Lake Baikal… holds more of the world’s fresh water than all that of the… Great Lakes…” “That” presumably refers to water, so that gives us “Lake Baikal… holds more of the world’s fresh water than [all the water of] the… Great Lakes.” And that’s wildly unnecessary: it’s better just to say that Lake Baikal holds more water than the Great Lakes.

But even if you ignore that last paragraph, the “Lake Baikal… it holds…” thing is a huge problem. So (C) is out.

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(D) While more than 300 rivers drain into it, Siberia's Lake Baikal holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, which is more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

The “which” jumps out at me first. The phrase “which is more than… the Great Lakes…” seems to modify “20% of the world’s fresh water”, and that doesn’t quite work: it’s illogical to say that a quantity of water is “more than… the Great Lakes.” It might be more than the water in the Great Lakes, but not “more than” the Great Lakes themselves.

Plus, “while” is essentially a synonym for “although” in this case, and that doesn’t make sense: “[Although] more than 300 rivers drain into it, Siberia’s Lake Baikal…[is large].” “Although” suggests some sort of contrast, and there’s definitely no contrast between those two phrases.

So (D) is out.

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(E) More than all the North American Great Lakes combined, Siberia's Lake Baikal, with more than 300 rivers draining into it, holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water.

That opening modifier, “more than all the… Great Lakes combined”, still isn’t great: it’s literally suggesting that Lake Baikal is “more than the Great Lakes”, and that doesn’t make sense. Maybe the amount of water in Lake Baikal is more than the amount in all of the Great Lakes, but Lake Baikal itself isn’t “more than” the Great Lakes.

I’m also not crazy about the use of “with” as a modifier in (E). For more on this issue, see the explanation for (B) above.

(E) isn’t a complete disaster, but (A) does a better job of conveying the meaning of the sentence, so (A) is our answer.
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I was debating major time between A and E. However, E has the phrase with more than 300 rivers draining into it....GMAt does not prefer the structure in the form of " with ....+Verbing"

Also Lake B can not be more than all the North American Great lakes combined....It is the water in Lake B.
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More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake Baikal, which holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

(A) More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake Baikal, which holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

(B) With 20 percent of the world's fresh water, that is more than all the North American Great Lakes combined, Siberia's Lake Baikal has more than 300 rivers that drain into it.

(C) Siberia's Lake Baikal, with more than 300 rivers draining into it, it holds more of the world's fresh water than all that of the North American Great Lakes combined, 20 percent.

(D) While more than 300 rivers drain into it, Siberia's lake Baikal holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, which is more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

(E) More than all the North American Great Lakes combined, Siberia's Lake Baikal, with more than 300 rivers draining into it, holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water.

Explanations please.


A.

'that is more than' is incorrect in B.
'it, it' is incorrect in C.
'while' incorrect in D
E makes no sense.
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More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake Baikal, which holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

(A) More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake Baikal, which holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

(B) With 20 percent of the world's fresh water, that is more than all the North American Great Lakes combined, Siberia's Lake Baikal has more than 300 rivers that drain into it.

(C) Siberia's Lake Baikal, with more than 300 rivers draining into it, it holds more of the world's fresh water than all that of the North American Great Lakes combined, 20 percent.

(D) While more than 300 rivers drain into it, Siberia's lake Baikal holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, which is more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

(E) More than all the North American Great Lakes combined, Siberia's Lake Baikal, with more than 300 rivers draining into it, holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water.


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(E) More than all the North American Great Lakes combined, Siberia's Lake Baikal, with more than 300 rivers draining into it, holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water.

Here Siberia's Lake Baikal seems to be a part of More than all the North American Great Lakes combined, and seems to modify it, which is not the case
Hence E is the wrong option.
Please correct me if i am wrong.

According to what i have deduced, the noun after the comma modifies/refers to the things just before the comma.
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Meaning is very important in 600 +level SC questions

First in every SC question understand the meaning of the option A

In option A -clearly states Baikal ' fresh water is more than all the North American Great Lakes combined. here the meaning is logical

In option E- More than all the North American Great Lakes combined, modifies lake baikal but it should modify the baikal's fresh water.Option A does that clearly .Hence E wrong

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(E) More than all the North American Great Lakes combined, Siberia's Lake Baikal, with more than 300 rivers draining into it, holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water.

Here Siberia's Lake Baikal seems to be a part of More than all the North American Great Lakes combined, and seems to modify it, which is not the case
Hence E is the wrong option.
Please correct me if i am wrong.

According to what i have deduced, the noun after the comma modifies/refers to the things just before the comma.


It is not true that the name after the comma refers to the preciding noun.Baikal is not part of the Great Lakes and the sentence doesn't say so.
The name after the comma is modified by the sentence before the comma, and here the first clause correctly modifies Lake Baikal.

Who is the subject of "more than ... combined"? Lake Baikal - this is correct.

The main errors in E are: the structure, not clear and quite confused; but most importantly its comparison.
More than the Great Lakes, Lake Baikal holds 20% of the world fresh water. Here the comparison is not correct, we are not comparing the water contained in L Baikal to the amount contained in the Great Lakes (as the correct answer does). Here the comparison doesn`t make sense.

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(C) Siberia's Lake Baikal(, with more than 300 rivers draining into it,) it holds more of the world's fresh water than all that of the North American Great Lakes combined, 20 percent.
Option C is something like: "Siberia's Lake Baikal IT holds". The pronoun is not correct. Aslo "20 percent" is misplaced.

The problem with D is "while": it means -at the same time - or shows a contrast => in both cases it not correct in the sentence (none of the two things happens here).
(D) While more than 300 rivers drain into it, Siberia's lake Baikal holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, which is more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

(E) More than all the North American Great Lakes combined (initial modifier), Siberia's Lake Baikal, with more than 300 rivers draining into it, holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water.
E says that "Siberia's Lake Baikal is more than all the North American Great Lakes combined" => misplaced modifier

(B) With 20 percent of the world's fresh water, that is more than all the North American Great Lakes combined, Siberia's Lake Baikal has more than 300 rivers that drain into it.
B says that "20% of the world's fresh water is more than all US lakes"

A is correct
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More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake Baikal, which holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

(A) More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake Baikal, which holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.
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Hello Experts,
Can someone please explain what the modifier "more than all the North American Great Lakes combined" is modifying? Is it modifying previous modifier or is it modifying the main clause. Of late, I have been seeing such constructions, and really want to understand how such constructions work.

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Hello Experts,
Can someone please explain what the modifier "more than all the North American Great Lakes combined" is modifying? Is it modifying previous modifier or is it modifying the main clause. Of late, I have been seeing such constructions, and really want to understand how such constructions work.

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Dear Himanshu,
I'm responding to your pm, and I am happy to help. :-)

More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake Baikal, which holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

One way to think about it is: exactly what is "more than all the North American Great Lakes combined"? The Great Lakes, as lakes, are fresh water, so we are comparing them to another quantity of fresh water --- "20 percent of the world's fresh water", a noun phrase that is the object of the the noun-modifying phrase beginning with "more than all ..." Not surprisingly, the modifier touches the noun, in accordance with the Modifier Touch Rule. See this blog for more on that rule:
http://magoosh.com/gmat/2013/modifiers- ... orrection/
While there are exceptions to the Modifier Touch Rule, that's an exactly place to start to look for the noun modified.

Keep in mind that modifiers are a part of what the GMAT calls "Logical Predication" on the the SC ----- in other words, to make sense of whether modifiers are used correctly and what they are modifying, you have to look beyond the grammar of a sentence to the logic & meaning, which are more primary. See this blog for more on that:
http://magoosh.com/gmat/2013/logical-pr ... orrection/

Does all this make sense?
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Can u please clarify, What is the main verb in option A? Thanks

Dear Chiranjeevee,
I'm happy to help. :-)

Here is version (A):
More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake Baikal, which holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.
The main subject is "more than 300 rivers", and the main verb is "drain". Everything before the comma is the independent clause of the sentence. After that are just modifiers.
Does this make sense?
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Going with the 'cut the fluff' does the sentence makes sense?

More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake Baikal, which holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.
More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake Baikal more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

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Going with the 'cut the fluff' does the sentence makes sense?

More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake Baikal, which holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.
More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake Baikal more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.

Can anyone enlighten me?

Dear TGC,
I'm happy to respond. :-)

Simply put, you cut the wrong fluff. The structure of this sentence is:
[independent clause][modifier #1[modifier #2]
and "modifier #2" modifies the words "20 percent" in modifier #1. If we eliminate modifier #1, it doesn't make sense, because what modifier #2 is modifying isn't there!

Does all this make sense?
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Can someone plz tell me why E i wrng ?

Dear janxavier,
I'm happy to respond. In the original ...
More than 300 rivers drain into Siberia's Lake Baikal, which holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water, more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.
... the phrase "more than all the North American Great Lakes combined" is a comparison to "which holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water." Lake Baikal holds 20%, and this more than the Great Lakes hold. Very clear.

Now, look at (E):
More than all the North American Great Lakes combined, Siberia's Lake Baikal, with more than 300 rivers draining into it, holds 20 percent of the world's fresh water.
Here, the modifier "More than all the North American Great Lakes combined" appears at the beginning, and modifiers at the beginning of the sentence typically modify the subject, so here it would modify Lake Baikal. This is an illogical comparison. Think about just this comparison.
Siberia's Lake Baikal is more than all the North American Great Lakes combined.
More what? We get some sense of what the sentence is trying to say, but it is not said with precision. In fact, Lake Baikal holds more fresh water than the Great Lakes, but that is not clear from this comparison. The comparison is illogical and incorrect.

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(B) With 20 percent of the world's fresh water, that is more than all the North American Great Lakes combined, Siberia's Lake Baikal has more than 300 rivers that drain into it.

I rejected B, after observing ", that" -- comma should not precede that (essential modifier)
Further even if we accept the use of that, comparison is not proper. fresh water is being compared with north American lakes.
Also meaning wise, I think "SLB has 300 rivers" implies that rivers belongs to SLB and they also drain into it.
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Mike,

Thanks a lot for your explanations. But can you please tell what's wrong with E?
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