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Re: Need advice to improve my Verbal score (I posted my ESR too) [#permalink]
brightandamen wrote:
Hi everyone,

I have been preparing GMAT for the last 10 months and my objective is to get 700. I have taken the test for three times, and the last score was 520 (Q47, V20).

The first thing I did was joined the prep course (Pascal Edu in Jakarta) and then I subscribed to GMAT Club, Magoosh and bought OG 2017. The OG, course, and websites helped me to get a grasp in the Quantitative but not in the Verbal section.

As you can see it from my ESR, the Verbal percentile is stuck in 25.

The question is, what should I do to improve the Verbal and maintain my Quantitative score?

Thank you for any help and thoughts. :wave:


Quick background/facts:
- I'm a self-employed, so I have flexible time to study
- Indonesian here (and English is my second language)
- I'm planning to take my 4th test in June/July


PS: I want to thank all GMAT Club members (especially for contributors in GMAT Quantitative section). All questions and answers that posted in this section successfully helped me to improve my Quantitative score. Hats off to you guys and Bunuel! :clap:


You need to improve your SC score. Many people say that this is the easiest V section to improve. You could do this by practice and wrong question analysis. Create an error log and study every single question you get wrong. You'll eventually find out that you begin understanding how GMAC designs its questions. They all follow a simple formula and once you understand how to analyze splits in the answer choices you begin to eliminate wrong choices quicker.

I suggest you practice OG questions but dont time yourself at first. Then as you find yourself improving you can start timing yourself. From the score you provided it seems that you would be better off to schedule your exam later in July. Since you are self employed you can find at least 2 hours to work on the GMAT every day.

Good luck to you. I hope this helps!
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Re: Need advice to improve my Verbal score (I posted my ESR too) [#permalink]
brightandamen wrote:
Hi everyone,

I have been preparing GMAT for the last 10 months and my objective is to get 700. I have taken the test for three times, and the last score was 520 (Q47, V20).

The first thing I did was joined the prep course (Pascal Edu in Jakarta) and then I subscribed to GMAT Club, Magoosh and bought OG 2017. The OG, course, and websites helped me to get a grasp in the Quantitative but not in the Verbal section.

As you can see it from my ESR, the Verbal percentile is stuck in 25.

The question is, what should I do to improve the Verbal and maintain my Quantitative score?

Thank you for any help and thoughts. :wave:


Quick background/facts:
- I'm a self-employed, so I have flexible time to study
- Indonesian here (and English is my second language)
- I'm planning to take my 4th test in June/July


PS: I want to thank all GMAT Club members (especially for contributors in GMAT Quantitative section). All questions and answers that posted in this section successfully helped me to improve my Quantitative score. Hats off to you guys and Bunuel! :clap:

Join e-Gmat. In few days I have realized the difference in my knowledge base... This is the best course for verbal... I have Compared between all the available courses before joining


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Re: Need advice to improve my Verbal score (I posted my ESR too) [#permalink]
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Hi brightandamen,

Since you've put in some significant study time already - and you've taken the GMAT 3 times - it would help to know a bit more about your overall approach to this process, your scores and your overall goals.

1) How long did you study before each attempt at the GMAT?
2) What were each of your Official Scores (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for each)?
3) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
4) What Schools are you planning to apply to?

Raising a 520 to a 700+ will take some significant work - and you'll have to make improvements to how you handle BOTH the Quant and Verbal sections. Thankfully, the GMAT is a consistent, predictable Exam, so you CAN train to score at a higher level.

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Re: Need advice to improve my Verbal score (I posted my ESR too) [#permalink]
diegocml
You scored a 98% percentile in CR - Would you mind sharing your tips and strategies?
Since my verbal scores fluctuate, I think it's pure luck :crazy:


AjiteshArun & SUPERSARS
Noted! Thanks for the advice guys


Sandipan10
I've read reviews about e-GMAT and most of it are positive feedback on their Verbal Prep. Yes, definitely will signup for free trial. Thanks!
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Re: Need advice to improve my Verbal score (I posted my ESR too) [#permalink]
EMPOWERgmatRichC wrote:
Hi brightandamen,

Since you've put in some significant study time already - and you've taken the GMAT 3 times - it would help to know a bit more about your overall approach to this process, your scores and your overall goals.

1) How long did you study before each attempt at the GMAT?
2) What were each of your Official Scores (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for each)?
3) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
4) What Schools are you planning to apply to?

Raising a 520 to a 700+ will take some significant work - and you'll have to make improvements to how you handle BOTH the Quant and Verbal sections. Thankfully, the GMAT is a consistent, predictable Exam, so you CAN train to score at a higher level.

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich


Hi Rich EMPOWERgmatRichC,

1) How long did you study before each attempt at the GMAT?
30-40 days before each test

2) What were each of your Official Scores (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for each)?
    430 V13 Q28
    490 V40 Q24
    520 V23 Q47

3) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
This year

4) What Schools are you planning to apply to?
Rotman, CMU, Foster, UNC


Thanks! Looking forward to your reply
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Re: Need advice to improve my Verbal score (I posted my ESR too) [#permalink]
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Hi brightandamen,

Given the range of your scores and the 'swings' in the percentiles, there are some serious inconsistencies in how you handle the GMAT. While you've certainly made some nice progress in the Quant section, you will still have to score at a much higher level in that section to hit your score goal. In the Verbal section, I think that you're probably reading answer choices over-and-over before picking one that 'sounds good' and then moving on. The Verbal section of the GMAT is as consistent and predictable as the Quant section is, so there are Tactics that you can use and patterns that you can take advantage of - but you have to train to learn/use all of that knowledge.

Considering all of this information, it will likely take you at least another 3 months of consistent, guided study to get to your goal score. As such, a June or July Test Date would likely be too soon, so you might need to change your timeline a bit. In addition, you would likely find it beneficial to invest in a new GMAT Course of some type (either Guided Self-Study or instructor-led).

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Re: Need advice to improve my Verbal score (I posted my ESR too) [#permalink]
brightandamen wrote:
Hi everyone,

I have been preparing GMAT for the last 10 months and my objective is to get 700. I have taken the test for three times, and the last score was 520 (Q47, V20).

The first thing I did was joined the prep course (Pascal Edu in Jakarta) and then I subscribed to GMAT Club, Magoosh and bought OG 2017. The OG, course, and websites helped me to get a grasp in the Quantitative but not in the Verbal section.

As you can see it from my ESR, the Verbal percentile is stuck in 25.

The question is, what should I do to improve the Verbal and maintain my Quantitative score?

Thank you for any help and thoughts. :wave:


Quick background/facts:
- I'm a self-employed, so I have flexible time to study
- Indonesian here (and English is my second language)
- I'm planning to take my 4th test in June/July


PS: I want to thank all GMAT Club members (especially for contributors in GMAT Quantitative section). All questions and answers that posted in this section successfully helped me to improve my Quantitative score. Hats off to you guys and Bunuel! :clap:



Hey buddy,

Couple of things from my experience :

1. For you verbal SC and CR, try egmat, it helped me (a non-native with not so great SC and CR grip when I began my prep) and I see no reasons that it cannot help you ..
Register for their free webinar on each of the topic (SC, CR and RC) if you feel good subscribe (its pretty reasonably priced specially for those who does NOT earn in dollars :-D :P :wink: )

2. Try to prepare for 3-4 months in contiuation (15-20 hours a week with 1.5-2 hours a day) ...that should help you a great deal ..

3. Quant : solve all the OG questions (not just OG-17 but also Quant review and OG 12, 13 etc) all questions are available on this forum so I wont suggest to buy all the OGs..
This should help in reaching Q45-47.


Hope this helps ...
Let me know if need any further help !!!

Not forget to hit kudos if it helps :wink:
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