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L/S = 8/4sqrt2 = 2 ???? It doesn't work and I can't find my mistake..

PLEASE help me to find my mistake!!

Thank you very much for your help!!


You got \(\frac{L}{S} = \frac{8}{4\sqrt{2}} = \frac{2}{\sqrt{2}} = \sqrt{2}\)

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I got it!!

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If a square is inscribed in a circle that, in turn, is inscribed in a larger square, what is the ratio of the perimeter of the larger square to that of the smaller square?

A. \(\frac{1}{2}\)
B. \(\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}\)
C. \(\sqrt{2}\)
D. \(2\)
E. \(3.14\)

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Ok, I understand this explanation from sportyrizwan:

Let "a" be the diameter of the circle
Therefore the side of the bigger square will be a and the perimeter 4a

Also a will be the diagonal of the smaller square
Therefore the side of the smaller square will be a/sqrt2 and perimeter (2a)sqrt2

Therefore the ratio of the bigger square to the smaller square is sqrt2

https://gmatclub.com/forum/square-inscribed-in-a-circle-inscribed-in-a-square-55210.html

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However, when I try to plug values, it doesn't work..

Let say larger square
one side x=2, so P=8

Smaller square
Diagonal = hypotenus = 2
So x^2+x^2=2^2
2x^2=4
x^2=2
x=sqrt2
P=4sqrt2

L/S = 8/4sqrt2 = 2 ???? It doesn't work and I can't find my mistake..

PLEASE help me to find my mistake!!

Thank you very much for your help!!


Consider the diagram below:

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The side of a large square is \(a\), thus its perimeter is \(4a\);

The side of a small square is \(\sqrt{(\frac{a}{2})^2+(\frac{a}{2})^2}=\frac{a}{\sqrt{2}}\), thus its perimeter is \(\frac{4a}{\sqrt{2}}\);

Hence the ratio is \(\frac{(4a)}{(\frac{4a}{\sqrt{2}})}=\sqrt{2}\).


Answer: C
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Bunuel : Need your help here. Why is the diagonal of the small square = a/sqrt 2?
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Bunuel : Need your help here. Why is the diagonal of the small square = a/sqrt 2?


The diagonal of small square is a, not \(\frac{a}{\sqrt{2}}\). \(\frac{a}{\sqrt{2}}\) is side of a small square. Check here: if-a-square-is-inscribed-in-a-circle-that-in-turn-is-inscribed-in-a-105993.html#p1419806
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Bunuel : Got it mate! thanks.
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Assume the side of the larger square to be 8, perimeter of larger square = 32.

Diameter of the circle inscribed within a square = Side of the square , therefore radius = 4. Furthermore radius of the circle is half the diagonal length of smaller square, hence 4= √2a/2 , solving for 'a', we get 4√2. Therefore, perimeter of smaller square = 16√2. Finally, 32/16√2 = √2. [C]
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If a square is inscribed in a circle that, in turn, is inscribed in a larger square, what is the ratio of the perimeter of the larger square to that of the smaller square?

A. \(\frac{1}{2}\)
B. \(\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}\)
C. \(\sqrt{2}\)
D. \(2\)
E. \(3.14\)


Let the side of small square be \(= 2\)

Therefore the diagonal of small square \(= 2\sqrt{2}\)

Diagonal of small square is \(=\) diameter of the circle

Diameter of the circle is \(=\) side of the large square

Therefore side of large square \(= 2\sqrt{2}\)

Perimeter of small square \(= 4a = 4*2 = 8\)

Perimeter of large square \(= 4a = 4*2\sqrt{2} = 8\sqrt{2}\)

Ratio of perimeter of large square to perimeter of small square \(= \frac{8\sqrt{2}}{8} = \sqrt{2}\)

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1. If a square is inscribed in a circle which is inscribed in a square then outer square area will be twice that of inner square area.
2. If a circle in inscribed in a square which is inscribed in a circle then the outer circle area will be twice that of inner circle area.
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Let the radius of circle be "r"

For smaller square Let side be "a"
Since smaller square is inscribed in circle
in this case the diameter of the circle will be equal to diagonal of smaller square
2r=a√2------1

For larger square let side be "b"
Since circle is inscribed in larger square
in this case diameter of the circle will be equal to side of larger square

2r=2b-------2

Using 1 & 2

b=a√2

therefore ratio of perimeter will be equal to ratio of side = √2

Hence C
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