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The success of the program to eradicate smallpox has stimulated experts to pursue what they had not previously considered possible - better control, if not eradication, of the other infections such as measles and yaws.

A. what they had not previously considered possible -- better control, if not eradication, of the other infections such as
"what" mean "one thing", change the intended meaning of the sentence, there are plenty of things that had not considered possible.
"the other" is too specific, we don't know what others are, so the correct usage must be "others"


B. what they had not previously considered a possibility -- better control, if not eradication, of such infections like

C. something they had not previously considered possible -- better control, if not eradication, of such infections as

D. something not considered a previous possibility -- better control and perhaps eradication, of other infections such as

E. the possibility of what they had not previously considered possible -- better control and possibly eradication of infections like
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Limiting to A and C:
A: of the other infections such as -- means there are a lot of other infections and the measles and yaws, the two diseases mentioned therein are just examples of many more such diseases. This is far-fetched and not the intended meaning. The intended idea is to refer to just two diseases that are very similar to smallpox. To refer to a wide gamut of diseases will be too outside the scope of reference as Karishma has pointed out
C: Of such infections as— here, the scope of the diseases mentioned is limited to the two diseases. Hence, this carries the intended meaning.
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The success of the program to eradicate smallpox has stimulated experts to pursue what they had not previously considered possible - better control, if not eradication, of the other infections such as measles and yaws.
A. what they had not previously considered possible - better control, if not eradication, of the other infections such as

B. what they had not previously considered possible - better control, if not eradication, of the other infections like

C. something they had not previously considered possible - better control, if not eradication, of such infections as

D. something had not considered a previous possibility- better control, and perhaps eradication, of other infections such as

E. the possibility of what they had not previouly considered - better control and possibly eradication of infections like


Im confused between A and C as all the other choices are easy to eliminate. Is A wrong only because its awkward and this construction is not preferred on GMAT or is there any other reason??



Usage of "THE" in this construction is wrong. Below is a good explanation from RON.

https://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/foru ... 61-15.html

Ron's explanation:
There are 2 problems with A.
- Major problem is "THE other infections." THE is too definitive here, carrying the connotation of "every single one of the other infections."
* THE is also incompatible with "such as":
- Correct: I never read this book, but I read the other books on the shelf.
- Correct: I never read this book, but I read other books on the shelf, such as "Right Hand, Left Hand" and "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich."
- Incorrect: I never read this book, but I read the other books on the shelf, such as "Right Hand, Left Hand" and "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich."
- Minor problem is "what they had not..." vs. "something they had not..." The "what" construction is awfully strong, suggesting that this was THE ONE THING they hadn't thought possible.
* As an analogy, compare the meanings of "I want to do what I love for a living" and "I want to do something I love for a living." The first suggests that the speaker has one particular field in mind; the second doesn't.


Also one more OG problem where the usage of "THE" in comparison creates a problem.

sc-although-she-was-considered-among-her-contemporaries-to-be-the-be-201838.html

In the above cited example if you notice Option 'A', the comparison states "She is the better Poet than her husband" It means "She is the only better poet than her husband". Usage of "THE" makes thing definite.

If we state as "She is a better poet than her husband" --> It means "She is also one among the better poets when compared with her husband."

Always be careful with usage of "THE" in an comparison or presenting examples.

If anything wrong in my understanding kindly rectify. Thanks.
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"of Such Infection as"..is it correct?

Yes Prabhanshu; in fact this is quite common and so, you should make yourself comfortable with this construct.

Couple of other official examples that deploy this structure:

Proponents of artificial intelligence say they will be able to make computers that can understand English and other human languages, recognize objects, and reason like an expert-computers that will be used for such purposes as diagnosing equipment breakdowns or deciding whether to authorize a loan

As business grows more complex, students who major in such specialized areas as finance and marketing are becoming more and more successful in the job market.

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I agree that C is correct. It is just worth adding that the problem with D is that “something not considered a previous possibility” is not correct. It is not a “previous possibility” that we are considering here. It is “something they had not previously considered possible”, the wording in C. Note the presence of “what” and “something” at the beginning of the options. This is a typical GMAT trick to get you to concentrate on a difference at the start of the options. This difference is often not relevant.
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C looks like the correct choice as it correctly uses "such as" instead of "like". The use of "the" in A looks awkward. although i don't know the grammatical reason. :roll:


The definite article "the" here seems to refer a group of diseases that has already been mentioned previously - however it has not been. It is often awkward to use a definite article when an item(s) is introduced for the first instance.
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i was confused between A and C
can anyone please clarify that according to A its "the other infections such as " the word such as indicates other infections that may not be related to small pox
and C removes the word other and infection now seems to compare with only small pox

please clarify


Whether the "other" infections are related to small pox or not is not mentioned in either option A or C - that is not the point here. Moreover there is no grammatical comparison. The point is that some infections ( measles, yaws) can be controlled by programs similar to that used to eradicate small pox.


The problem with A is mentioned in the posts below:

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The success of the program to eradicate smallpox has stimulated experts to pursue what they had not previously considered possible - better control, if not eradication, of the other infections such as measles and yaws.

A. what they had not previously considered possible -- better control, if not eradication, of the other infections such as

B. what they had not previously considered a possibility -- better control, if not eradication, of such infections like

C. something they had not previously considered possible -- better control, if not eradication, of such infections as

D. something not considered a previous possibility -- better control and perhaps eradication, of other infections such as

E. the possibility of what they had not previously considered possible -- better control and possibly eradication of infections like


tricky question =]
B & E are out becuase of the use of like.

D changes the meaning + very heavy on words.

The difference between A and C is this:
- (a) " of the other infections" - the use of other is not clear. you have the things you considered and the ones you have no considered.
- (c) "of such" - to illustrate the thing they have no considered, a few examples are given. This is the correct meaning.
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Never use "Like" for comparing the examples . ! Period ! Like is generally used for comparing nouns only. So eliminate the option B and E straight away. D - Pathetic connection between Eradication and control. So eliminate D. No need to use !

Now Juggling between A and C Options:

Chose C because in Option A "what" is a definitive usage and no need a definitive usage here.
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why cant u use like here?
and what is the rule? where can i use / not use Like?

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For example: Life is like a box of chocolates. (Life resembles a box of chocolates.)
and: I enjoy playing musical instruments such as piano and violin. (Examples of instruments I enjoy playing.)

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Problems with A:
1. use of the : 'of the other infectios, such as': the other infections makes it like there is a definite list of infections which are being talked of, and every single one of them will/can be controlled..
also the followed by such as is awckward usage.
2. use of what: very definitive.
I want to eat what I like vs. I want to eat something I like. the first sentence implies I have something particular, or a specific list in my mind. The second sentence is more open.
Here in the conetxt use of what seems to imply that 'the control ...' was the only thing the scientists had not considered possible. which might not be correct. It is something they didnt think was possible, not the only thing.


Nice explanation. But I beg to differ with some aspects of C as correct answer choice -

1. I hope the intended meaning is in definitive sense and C destroys this sense.
2. C changes the meaning of the original sentence. What I know about GMAT is "you can play with anything, but not the meaning for SC questions".

In spite of all these if C is the OA, then my question is "How to tackle these types of questions?"
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The success of the program to eradicate smallpox has stimulated experts to pursue what they had not previously considered possible - better control, if not eradication, of the other infection such as measles and yaws

1) what they had not previously considered possible - better control ,if not eradication, of the other infection such as
although generally in correct lines...
The real problem seems to be THE in 'the other infections -- it encompasses all other infections. Which is not what it should mean


2) what they had not previously considered a possibility - better control, if not eradication, of such infections like
LIKE is wrong to give examples, such as is correct.

3) something they had not previously considered possible - better control, if not eradication, of such infections​ as
Corrects the error-- Answer

4) something not considered a previous possibility - better control and perhaps eradication, of other infections such as
changes the meaning by using 'a previous possiblity'..
Again 'perhaps' is wrongly used.


5) the possibility of what they had not previously considered - better control and possibly eradication of infections like
wrong construction.. also like instead of such as

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The success of the program to eradicate smallpox has stimulated experts to pursue what they had not previously considered possible - better control, if not eradication, of the other infections such as measles and yaws.

A. what they had not previously considered possible -- better control, if not eradication, of the other infections such as

B. what they had not previously considered a possibility -- better control, if not eradication, of such infections like

C. something they had not previously considered possible -- better control, if not eradication, of such infections as

D. something not considered a previous possibility -- better control and perhaps eradication, of other infections such as

E. the possibility of what they had not previously considered possible -- better control and possibly eradication of infections like

Explanation:
To answer this question, you need to understand the use of "the" and "what"

Use "the" to refer to all of a certain type. For example, here "the other infections" refers to all the other infections not just limited to the two examples.

"what they had not" means that this is THE ONLY THING THAT They had not considered.

Eliminate (A) and (B).

In (D), "previous possibility" changes the meaning.
In (E), "possibility of what they had not previously considered possible", the two possibility makes it bad.
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The discussions have run so long that it is not clear whether the difference between 'infections such as' and 'such infections as' has been brought out in the prior postings. However, let me make bold to mention it here.
When we say infections such as x and y, we mean to say that there are several more genre of infections which may vary widely in their genesis, morphology or intervention, and the given examples are just two of such infections, not necessarily excluding others. However, this is not the intended meaning of the text. It implies that the so-called better control if not eradication is applicable to only to those two specified diseases such as measles and yaws. This is more plausible because the two cited infections are of similar nature to smallpox namely viral diseases manifested with rashes or blisters on the external body. If the author were to refer to all infections, why will he even give two examples?

This difference is vital in choosing C over A.
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Expert,why option a is not correct?
When we need to choose one between what and something, is 'something' a better option?


Vkat, check out this explanation from gmattokyo way back on page 1:

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here is an explanation from mgmat staff in their website (though I don't think I'll get this kind of SC right if given again ;-) )

the 'what' construction is problematic in this sentence, because, in general, 'what' conveys a sense of exclusivity / uniqueness. 'what they had not considered possible' implies that there is only one thing satisfying that description, in contrast to 'something...' which admits the possibility of many other such things.
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the biggest bugbear in choice a is the word 'the', which creates an image of a definite set of other infections.


("Bugbear" = a very colloquial word for "problem".)

If this isn't enough, let me know, and I'll try to rephrase.
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Problems with A:
1. use of the : 'of the other infectios, such as': the other infections makes it like there is a definite list of infections which are being talked of, and every single one of them will/can be controlled..
also the followed by such as is awckward usage.
2. use of what: very definitive.
I want to eat what I like vs. I want to eat something I like. the first sentence implies I have something particular, or a specific list in my mind. The second sentence is more open.
Here in the conetxt use of what seems to imply that 'the control ...' was the only thing the scientists had not considered possible. which might not be correct. It is something they didnt think was possible, not the only thing.


Nice explanation. But I beg to differ with some aspects of C as correct answer choice -

1. I hope the intended meaning is in definitive sense and C destroys this sense.
2. C changes the meaning of the original sentence. What I know about GMAT is "you can play with anything, but not the meaning for SC questions".

In spite of all these if C is the OA, then my question is "How to tackle these types of questions?"


I have the same query. The replies so far on the thread mention that a definitive usage is not needed here. There is no logical reason why the author cannot use a definitive usage here. If both the usages are possible and the original sentence presents a definitive usage, is there a reason we should choose C over A even though A is grammatically correct and conveys a meaningful message, whereas C changes the meaning of the original sentence?

Experts - please clarify.
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I am not able to boil meaning differences between A and C
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I am not able to boil meaning differences between A and C
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Hello rajatkataria14@gmail.com,

Thank you for the query. I will be glad to help. :-)

Let's take a look at the sentence with both Choice A and C:

Choice A: The success of the program to eradicate smallpox has stimulated experts to pursue what they had not previously considered possible - better control, if not eradication, of the other infections such as measles and yaws.


Choice C: The success of the program to eradicate smallpox has stimulated experts to pursue something they had not previously considered possible -- better control, if not eradication, of such infections as measles and yaws.

IMHO, technically there is not much of change in meaning between the two choices as such. But think of it this way. When we say doctors will take care of diseases such as abc and xyz. Why would we say doctors will take care of other diseases such as abc and xyz.

So, IMHO, usage of other infections is an issue in choice A. Also the usage of to pursue something in Choice C is better than to pursue what as the latter is simpler and clearer to understand.


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I imagine many of you were stuck between A and C. Here is a formula I use for SC, RC, and CR when stuck between 2 choices: I ask myself which one of the two choices is undeniably true regardless of the other choice. In this example,

C) something they had not previously considered possible -- better control, if not eradication, of such infections as

sounds perfect to me.

A) on the other hand while it reads kinda right, I am not as confident in saying its as undeniably right as C.
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144144 wrote:
why cant u use like here?
and what is the rule? where can i use / not use Like?

thanks.


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"Like" is used for similarities, and "such as" is used for examples.
For example: Life is like a box of chocolates. (Life resembles a box of chocolates.)
and: I enjoy playing musical instruments such as piano and violin. (Examples of instruments I enjoy playing.)

Hope it helps.

I resonate with the explanation, just to add a bit:

Like is a preposition and is used for comparisons, and is followed by nouns, pronouns or noun phrases.
Like is never followed by a clause, or a prepositional phrase.
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