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New post Updated on: 26 Mar 2019, 20:36
Wow I actually first answered this question back in 2017 !

See post below.
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New post 18 Jan 2018, 03:01
Just to add
Option D uses em dash for enclosing an appositive phrase
.... that GB had a prime minister - Disraeli - who didn't come .....

Now here em dash has been used to emphasize the name of PM {Until Mr. Disraeli became...something like} but still its usage is as a non-essential modifier and can be enclosed in commas.

As per MGMAT SC guide dash is a flexile punctuation and can be used as emphatic comma, semicolon, or colon. Its usage is more flexible than colon as dash can be used to restate or explain an earlier part of the sentence. Unlike the colon. the dash does not need to be immediately preceeded by the part needing explanation.


So, I enclose it in commas we can certainly see

.... that GB had a prime minister , Disraeli , who didn't come .....

that who is modifying Prime minister not Disraeli

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New post 10 Feb 2019, 04:16
I do have a question regarding option "C".
Explanations of OG suggested that the present- perfect tense (have not come) is inappropriate after the past tense (were) in this context.
Whether it is grammatically correct to use multiple tenses in a single sentence or the OG explanation is wrong ?

Please have a look on the below given Example
"I have heard that Mona left Manchester this morning, and has already arrived in London, where she will be for the next three weeks."

Here, we have present perfect tense, simple past tense and simple future tense all in the same sentence, but they all make sense together to create a logical sequence of events.

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I do have a question regarding option "C".
Explanations of OG suggested that the present- perfect tense (have not come) is inappropriate after the past tense (were) in this context.
Whether it is grammatically correct to use multiple tenses in a single sentence or the OG explanation is wrong ?

Please have a look on the below given Example
"I have heard that Mona left Manchester this morning, and has already arrived in London, where she will be for the next three weeks."

Here, we have present perfect tense, simple past tense and simple future tense all in the same sentence, but they all make sense together to create a logical sequence of events.

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Until 1868 and Disraeli, Great Britain had no prime ministers not coming from a landed family.

Split 1 - Double Negatives
(A) Until 1868 and Disraeli, Great Britain had no prime ministers not coming
(B) Until 1868 and Disraeli, Great Britain had had no prime ministers who have not come
(C) Until Disraeli in 1868, there were no prime ministers in Great Britain who have not come

E - Weird Tense makes the sentence awkward and meaning isn't clear
(E) It was only in 1868 and Disraeli that Great Britain had one of its prime ministers not coming
Only in 1868 AND Disraeli - Implies there are two separate events that led to the first non-landed PM.
Gerund "coming" - no verb for prime ministers

D corrects the above
(D) It was not until 1868 that Great Britain had a prime minister—Disraeli—who did not come
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New post 27 Mar 2019, 01:59
Smitc007 wrote:
Whether it is grammatically correct to use multiple tenses in a single sentence or the OG explanation is wrong ?
There is nothing inherently wrong in using multiple tenses in a sentence.

However, that doesn't mean that we can use any tense we want in any sentence. This sentence talks about Disraeli, and the Prime Ministers before him. Given that the sentence connects Disraeli to 1868, we can safely say that all the other PMs must have come to power even earlier than that. Option C drops the present perfect have not come into this situation, and that's why it is incorrect in this case.
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