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short story short, I tried two official CAT (680 in both..) and two MGMAT CAT (got 580 and 550). Yesterday I tried a real GMAT and only scored 560. I cancelled my score.. Find the whole story here https://gmatclub.com/forum/from-680-to-237477.html#p1832196

I signed in for a new GMAT in two months (7th of June), aiming to break the 700 barrier. A big success would be 720. So I am asking for some wise advice from your side. The preparation material I have is:

- all MGMAT books (I already studied from them). I know answers by hearth..;
- Verbal Review (301 questions), Quantitative Review (300 questions) and General Review (404Q, 403V Questions). All are OG 2017;
- Princeton review;
- PowerScore SC

Believe it or not, I don't think I have a technical skill problem as I have a strong engineering background. I certainly have a non-rigorous approach and a stupid attitude to rush over questions. How would you plan the next two months until the test day? I can afford studying 3h/day and around 6h/day during weekends. Also I am planning to have 8 days off before the test.
What about the following?:

From OG: 30 mins section for PS (15 questions);
From OG: 30 mins section for DS (15 questions);
From OG: 20 mins questions CR (12 questions);
From OG: 20 mins questions SC (12 questions);
From OG: 20 mins questions RC (12 questions);
Total: 2h - remaining 1h.

At this pace, I should terminate OG books in ~25 days. Then how to invest the remaining hour of each session? I was thinking about the gmat question bank.

My questions for you are:
- what should I buy additionally?
- I am planning to buy the two additional CATS from GMAT and I have 4 CAT lefts from MGMAT. When should I take them?;
- How to keep practice after finishing the OG material for a score >700.

Let me know your opinions. Thanks in advance. My profile: 32yo, Ph.D in numerical engineering.

Best Regards,
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Re: Advices on a two months strategy.. [#permalink] New post   04 Apr 2017, 20:17
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Dear all,

short story short, I tried two official CAT (680 in both..) and two MGMAT CAT (got 580 and 550). Yesterday I tried a real GMAT and only scored 560. I cancelled my score.. Find the whole story here https://gmatclub.com/forum/from-680-to-237477.html#p1832196

I signed in for a new GMAT in two months (7th of June), aiming to break the 700 barrier. A big success would be 720. So I am asking for some wise advice from your side. The preparation material I have is:

- all MGMAT books (I already studied from them). I know answers by hearth..;
- Verbal Review (301 questions), Quantitative Review (300 questions) and General Review (404Q, 403V Questions). All are OG 2017;
- Princeton review;
- PowerScore SC

Believe it or not, I don't think I have a technical skill problem as I have a strong engineering background. I certainly have a non-rigorous approach and a stupid attitude to rush over questions. How would you plan the next two months until the test day? I can afford studying 3h/day and around 6h/day during weekends. Also I am planning to have 8 days off before the test.
What about the following?:

From OG: 30 mins section for PS (15 questions);
From OG: 30 mins section for DS (15 questions);
From OG: 20 mins questions CR (12 questions);
From OG: 20 mins questions SC (12 questions);
From OG: 20 mins questions RC (12 questions);
Total: 2h - remaining 1h.

At this pace, I should terminate OG books in ~25 days. Then how to invest the remaining hour of each session? I was thinking about the gmat question bank.

My questions for you are:
- what should I buy additionally?
- I am planning to buy the two additional CATS from GMAT and I have 4 CAT lefts from MGMAT. When should I take them?;
- How to keep practice after finishing the OG material for a score >700.

Let me know your opinions. Thanks in advance. My profile: 32yo, Ph.D in numerical engineering.

Best Regards,


Hi RAS85 ,
I am sorry to hear that test day did not go as expected. With 2 months of dedicated study , you should be able to break the score 700.
What was your score split for 560 in the official GMAT ? You might order an ESR , which will help you investigate where you went wrong .


- OG and Verbal review - Don't just solve questions but think like the test maker and analyze the details.
- Magoosh on demand - this is a course with decent ROI -
- For Quant - Manhattan or Veritas prep guides are good
- GMAT Club tests are fantastic for quant practice.
-Also , solve the questions in Bunuel's signature.

SC - e-GMAT and Manhattan SC - It can be improved in the least amount of time . This is the best e-GMAT module .
- CR - Powerscore , e-GMAT , MGMAT Ron's videos
-RC - MGMAT or Veritas reading strategy
- GMAT Prep exam pack 1 and 2
- GMAT question pack 1

e-GMAT Scholaranium - Good tool for verbal practice .

For practise tests, I would advise that you should stick to GMAT Prep exams. You can use MGMAT or Veritas for additional practice .

Hope this helps!! :)
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Re: Advices on a two months strategy.. [#permalink] New post   05 Apr 2017, 00:12
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Dear all,

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short story short, I tried two official CAT (680 in both..) and two MGMAT CAT (got 580 and 550). Yesterday I tried a real GMAT and only scored 560. I cancelled my score.. Find the whole story here https://gmatclub.com/forum/from-680-to-237477.html#p1832196

I signed in for a new GMAT in two months (7th of June), aiming to break the 700 barrier. A big success would be 720. So I am asking for some wise advice from your side. The preparation material I have is:

- all MGMAT books (I already studied from them). I know answers by hearth..;
- Verbal Review (301 questions), Quantitative Review (300 questions) and General Review (404Q, 403V Questions). All are OG 2017;
- Princeton review;
- PowerScore SC

Believe it or not, I don't think I have a technical skill problem as I have a strong engineering background. I certainly have a non-rigorous approach and a stupid attitude to rush over questions. How would you plan the next two months until the test day? I can afford studying 3h/day and around 6h/day during weekends. Also I am planning to have 8 days off before the test.
What about the following?:

From OG: 30 mins section for PS (15 questions);
From OG: 30 mins section for DS (15 questions);
From OG: 20 mins questions CR (12 questions);
From OG: 20 mins questions SC (12 questions);
From OG: 20 mins questions RC (12 questions);
Total: 2h - remaining 1h.

At this pace, I should terminate OG books in ~25 days. Then how to invest the remaining hour of each session? I was thinking about the gmat question bank.

My questions for you are:
- what should I buy additionally?
- I am planning to buy the two additional CATS from GMAT and I have 4 CAT lefts from MGMAT. When should I take them?;
- How to keep practice after finishing the OG material for a score >700.

Let me know your opinions. Thanks in advance. My profile: 32yo, Ph.D in numerical engineering.

Best Regards,


First, as you have PhD in computational fluid dynamics, so you must be very good at math. Thus, I think you will have no problem to improve your Quant score from Q47 to Q50 and the overall GMAT score improves from 680 to ~700.

Now, to get 720, you need to improve your Verbal score as well. There are many GMAT materials you could try. Since each one has its own style and advantage, I think you might try any material that suits you.

The plan you mentioned that you splited your time to study different sections in GMAT is not quite effective. You should know which part you are good at and which part you still face problems to solve. From that, you should focus on that part rather than waste your time in practicing every GMAT questions.
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Re: Advices on a two months strategy.. [#permalink] New post   05 Apr 2017, 12:19
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RAS85 wrote:
Dear all,

short story short, I tried two official CAT (680 in both..) and two MGMAT CAT (got 580 and 550). Yesterday I tried a real GMAT and only scored 560. I cancelled my score.. Find the whole story here https://gmatclub.com/forum/from-680-to-237477.html#p1832196

I signed in for a new GMAT in two months (7th of June), aiming to break the 700 barrier. A big success would be 720. So I am asking for some wise advice from your side. The preparation material I have is:

- all MGMAT books (I already studied from them). I know answers by hearth..;
- Verbal Review (301 questions), Quantitative Review (300 questions) and General Review (404Q, 403V Questions). All are OG 2017;
- Princeton review;
- PowerScore SC

Believe it or not, I don't think I have a technical skill problem as I have a strong engineering background. I certainly have a non-rigorous approach and a stupid attitude to rush over questions. How would you plan the next two months until the test day? I can afford studying 3h/day and around 6h/day during weekends. Also I am planning to have 8 days off before the test.
What about the following?:

From OG: 30 mins section for PS (15 questions);
From OG: 30 mins section for DS (15 questions);
From OG: 20 mins questions CR (12 questions);
From OG: 20 mins questions SC (12 questions);
From OG: 20 mins questions RC (12 questions);
Total: 2h - remaining 1h.

At this pace, I should terminate OG books in ~25 days. Then how to invest the remaining hour of each session? I was thinking about the gmat question bank.

My questions for you are:
- what should I buy additionally?
- I am planning to buy the two additional CATS from GMAT and I have 4 CAT lefts from MGMAT. When should I take them?;
- How to keep practice after finishing the OG material for a score >700.

Let me know your opinions. Thanks in advance. My profile: 32yo, Ph.D in numerical engineering.

Best Regards,


Hi RAS85 ,
I am sorry to hear that test day did not go as expected. With 2 months of dedicated study , you should be able to break the score 700.
What was your score split for 560 in the official GMAT ? You might order an ESR , which will help you investigate where you went wrong .


- OG and Verbal review - Don't just solve questions but think like the test maker and analyze the details.
- Magoosh on demand - this is a course with decent ROI -
- For Quant - Manhattan or Veritas prep guides are good
- GMAT Club tests are fantastic for quant practice.
-Also , solve the questions in Bunuel's signature.

SC - e-GMAT and Manhattan SC - It can be improved in the least amount of time . This is the best e-GMAT module .
- CR - Powerscore , e-GMAT , MGMAT Ron's videos
-RC - MGMAT or Veritas reading strategy
- GMAT Prep exam pack 1 and 2
- GMAT question pack 1

e-GMAT Scholaranium - Good tool for verbal practice .

For practise tests, I would advise that you should stick to GMAT Prep exams. You can use MGMAT or Veritas for additional practice .

Hope this helps!! :)


Thank you very much for these precious advices. I'll certainly follow them and hope for the best :) I'll also stick with the GMAT test.
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Re: Advices on a two months strategy.. [#permalink] New post   05 Apr 2017, 12:20
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RAS85 wrote:
Dear all,

Show Spoiler
short story short, I tried two official CAT (680 in both..) and two MGMAT CAT (got 580 and 550). Yesterday I tried a real GMAT and only scored 560. I cancelled my score.. Find the whole story here https://gmatclub.com/forum/from-680-to-237477.html#p1832196

I signed in for a new GMAT in two months (7th of June), aiming to break the 700 barrier. A big success would be 720. So I am asking for some wise advice from your side. The preparation material I have is:

- all MGMAT books (I already studied from them). I know answers by hearth..;
- Verbal Review (301 questions), Quantitative Review (300 questions) and General Review (404Q, 403V Questions). All are OG 2017;
- Princeton review;
- PowerScore SC

Believe it or not, I don't think I have a technical skill problem as I have a strong engineering background. I certainly have a non-rigorous approach and a stupid attitude to rush over questions. How would you plan the next two months until the test day? I can afford studying 3h/day and around 6h/day during weekends. Also I am planning to have 8 days off before the test.
What about the following?:

From OG: 30 mins section for PS (15 questions);
From OG: 30 mins section for DS (15 questions);
From OG: 20 mins questions CR (12 questions);
From OG: 20 mins questions SC (12 questions);
From OG: 20 mins questions RC (12 questions);
Total: 2h - remaining 1h.

At this pace, I should terminate OG books in ~25 days. Then how to invest the remaining hour of each session? I was thinking about the gmat question bank.

My questions for you are:
- what should I buy additionally?
- I am planning to buy the two additional CATS from GMAT and I have 4 CAT lefts from MGMAT. When should I take them?;
- How to keep practice after finishing the OG material for a score >700.

Let me know your opinions. Thanks in advance. My profile: 32yo, Ph.D in numerical engineering.

Best Regards,


First, as you have PhD in computational fluid dynamics, so you must be very good at math. Thus, I think you will have no problem to improve your Quant score from Q47 to Q50 and the overall GMAT score improves from 680 to ~700.

Now, to get 720, you need to improve your Verbal score as well. There are many GMAT materials you could try. Since each one has its own style and advantage, I think you might try any material that suits you.

The plan you mentioned that you splited your time to study different sections in GMAT is not quite effective. You should know which part you are good at and which part you still face problems to solve. From that, you should focus on that part rather than waste your time in practicing every GMAT questions.


Thank you for this very encouraging message. I really need some nice words ;)
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RAS85 wrote:
Dear all,

short story short, I tried two official CAT (680 in both..) and two MGMAT CAT (got 580 and 550). Yesterday I tried a real GMAT and only scored 560. I cancelled my score.. Find the whole story here https://gmatclub.com/forum/from-680-to-237477.html#p1832196

I signed in for a new GMAT in two months (7th of June), aiming to break the 700 barrier. A big success would be 720. So I am asking for some wise advice from your side. The preparation material I have is:

- all MGMAT books (I already studied from them). I know answers by hearth..;
- Verbal Review (301 questions), Quantitative Review (300 questions) and General Review (404Q, 403V Questions). All are OG 2017;
- Princeton review;
- PowerScore SC

Believe it or not, I don't think I have a technical skill problem as I have a strong engineering background. I certainly have a non-rigorous approach and a stupid attitude to rush over questions. How would you plan the next two months until the test day? I can afford studying 3h/day and around 6h/day during weekends. Also I am planning to have 8 days off before the test.
What about the following?:

From OG: 30 mins section for PS (15 questions);
From OG: 30 mins section for DS (15 questions);
From OG: 20 mins questions CR (12 questions);
From OG: 20 mins questions SC (12 questions);
From OG: 20 mins questions RC (12 questions);
Total: 2h - remaining 1h.

At this pace, I should terminate OG books in ~25 days. Then how to invest the remaining hour of each session? I was thinking about the gmat question bank.

My questions for you are:
- what should I buy additionally?
- I am planning to buy the two additional CATS from GMAT and I have 4 CAT lefts from MGMAT. When should I take them?;
- How to keep practice after finishing the OG material for a score >700.

Let me know your opinions. Thanks in advance. My profile: 32yo, Ph.D in numerical engineering.

Best Regards,


Have you tried the comprehensive CR,SC & RC pdfs in the forums. Those contain all the official questions and is excellent for practice.
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Advices on a two months strategy.. [#permalink] New post   06 Apr 2017, 01:09
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Dear RAS85,
I think before you do anything, you should spend at least 2-3 days to analyze the huge score fluctuations that you are having. Typically people score 30-50 marks less in MGMAT and score between official CATs and actual GMAT are more or less similar. In your case there is a delta of 100+ marks. Surely there's something wrong. I don't know what it is. I would use the test analytics and do a section by section analysis. Taking medicine without knowing the disease is praying to be lucky...

RAS85 wrote:
Dear all,

short story short, I tried two official CAT (680 in both..) and two MGMAT CAT (got 580 and 550). Yesterday I tried a real GMAT and only scored 560. I cancelled my score.. Find the whole story here https://gmatclub.com/forum/from-680-to-237477.html#p1832196

I signed in for a new GMAT in two months (7th of June), aiming to break the 700 barrier. A big success would be 720. So I am asking for some wise advice from your side. The preparation material I have is:

- all MGMAT books (I already studied from them). I know answers by hearth..;
- Verbal Review (301 questions), Quantitative Review (300 questions) and General Review (404Q, 403V Questions). All are OG 2017;
- Princeton review;
- PowerScore SC

Believe it or not, I don't think I have a technical skill problem as I have a strong engineering background. I certainly have a non-rigorous approach and a stupid attitude to rush over questions. How would you plan the next two months until the test day? I can afford studying 3h/day and around 6h/day during weekends. Also I am planning to have 8 days off before the test.
What about the following?:

From OG: 30 mins section for PS (15 questions);
From OG: 30 mins section for DS (15 questions);
From OG: 20 mins questions CR (12 questions);
From OG: 20 mins questions SC (12 questions);
From OG: 20 mins questions RC (12 questions);
Total: 2h - remaining 1h.

At this pace, I should terminate OG books in ~25 days. Then how to invest the remaining hour of each session? I was thinking about the gmat question bank.

My questions for you are:
- what should I buy additionally?
- I am planning to buy the two additional CATS from GMAT and I have 4 CAT lefts from MGMAT. When should I take them?;
- How to keep practice after finishing the OG material for a score >700.

Let me know your opinions. Thanks in advance. My profile: 32yo, Ph.D in numerical engineering.

Best Regards,
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Re: Advices on a two months strategy.. [#permalink] New post   06 Apr 2017, 01:25
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RAS85 wrote:
Dear all,

short story short, I tried two official CAT (680 in both..) and two MGMAT CAT (got 580 and 550). Yesterday I tried a real GMAT and only scored 560. I cancelled my score.. Find the whole story here https://gmatclub.com/forum/from-680-to-237477.html#p1832196

I signed in for a new GMAT in two months (7th of June), aiming to break the 700 barrier. A big success would be 720. So I am asking for some wise advice from your side. The preparation material I have is:

- all MGMAT books (I already studied from them). I know answers by hearth..;
- Verbal Review (301 questions), Quantitative Review (300 questions) and General Review (404Q, 403V Questions). All are OG 2017;
- Princeton review;
- PowerScore SC

Believe it or not, I don't think I have a technical skill problem as I have a strong engineering background. I certainly have a non-rigorous approach and a stupid attitude to rush over questions. How would you plan the next two months until the test day? I can afford studying 3h/day and around 6h/day during weekends. Also I am planning to have 8 days off before the test.
What about the following?:

From OG: 30 mins section for PS (15 questions);
From OG: 30 mins section for DS (15 questions);
From OG: 20 mins questions CR (12 questions);
From OG: 20 mins questions SC (12 questions);
From OG: 20 mins questions RC (12 questions);
Total: 2h - remaining 1h.

At this pace, I should terminate OG books in ~25 days. Then how to invest the remaining hour of each session? I was thinking about the gmat question bank.

My questions for you are:
- what should I buy additionally?
- I am planning to buy the two additional CATS from GMAT and I have 4 CAT lefts from MGMAT. When should I take them?;
- How to keep practice after finishing the OG material for a score >700.

Let me know your opinions. Thanks in advance. My profile: 32yo, Ph.D in numerical engineering.

Best Regards,


Have you tried the comprehensive CR,SC & RC pdfs in the forums. Those contain all the official questions and is excellent for practice.


Hi, yes I am also having a look to that!
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Re: Advices on a two months strategy.. [#permalink] New post   06 Apr 2017, 01:28
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Dear RAS85,
I think before you do anything, you should spend at least 2-3 days to analyze the huge score fluctuations that you are having. Typically people score 30-50 marks less in MGMAT and score between official CATs and actual GMAT are more or less similar. In your case there is a delta of 100+ marks. Surely there's something wrong. I don't know what it is. I would use the test analytics and do a section by section analysis. Taking medicine without knowing the disease is praying to be lucky...

RAS85 wrote:
Dear all,

short story short, I tried two official CAT (680 in both..) and two MGMAT CAT (got 580 and 550). Yesterday I tried a real GMAT and only scored 560. I cancelled my score.. Find the whole story here https://gmatclub.com/forum/from-680-to-237477.html#p1832196

I signed in for a new GMAT in two months (7th of June), aiming to break the 700 barrier. A big success would be 720. So I am asking for some wise advice from your side. The preparation material I have is:

- all MGMAT books (I already studied from them). I know answers by hearth..;
- Verbal Review (301 questions), Quantitative Review (300 questions) and General Review (404Q, 403V Questions). All are OG 2017;
- Princeton review;
- PowerScore SC

Believe it or not, I don't think I have a technical skill problem as I have a strong engineering background. I certainly have a non-rigorous approach and a stupid attitude to rush over questions. How would you plan the next two months until the test day? I can afford studying 3h/day and around 6h/day during weekends. Also I am planning to have 8 days off before the test.
What about the following?:

From OG: 30 mins section for PS (15 questions);
From OG: 30 mins section for DS (15 questions);
From OG: 20 mins questions CR (12 questions);
From OG: 20 mins questions SC (12 questions);
From OG: 20 mins questions RC (12 questions);
Total: 2h - remaining 1h.

At this pace, I should terminate OG books in ~25 days. Then how to invest the remaining hour of each session? I was thinking about the gmat question bank.

My questions for you are:
- what should I buy additionally?
- I am planning to buy the two additional CATS from GMAT and I have 4 CAT lefts from MGMAT. When should I take them?;
- How to keep practice after finishing the OG material for a score >700.

Let me know your opinions. Thanks in advance. My profile: 32yo, Ph.D in numerical engineering.

Best Regards,


Such a nice answer, thank you. Yes, what I am missing here is a clear strategy and a steady pace. It means that I am likely to pick a wrong answer regardless the topic on the quantitative part. I'll certainly follow your advice, thanks!
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Re: Advices on a two months strategy.. [#permalink] New post   01 May 2017, 01:22
Dear guys a little update:

These were my previous CAT Scores:

Feb 12th: Official CAT 680 (46Q, 37V)
Feb 26th: Official CAT 680 (47Q, 37V)
March 11th MGMAT CAT: 580 (Q38, V31)
March 25th MGMAT CAT: 550 (Q34, V32)

I studied a lot this month on the sentence correction/critical reasoning powescore bibles. Then I am studying the advanced quant from MGMAT and today I got:

April 30th MGMAT CAT: 680 (Q44, V38)

I a studying 3h/day. I cannot afford more. Test date is 7th of June but I took 8 days off before test date.

My dream objective is 720.

Wish me good luck.
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