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Historical revisionism is different from history in that the former involves either the illegitimate distortion of the historical records or the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event, which is a form of historical negotionism

A. in that the former involves either the illegitimate distortion of the historical records or the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event.
B. because the former involves either the illegitimate distortion of the historical records or the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event.
C. in that the former involves either the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event or the illegitimate distortion of the historical records
D. because the former involves either the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event or the illegitimate distortion of the historical records
E. in that the former involves the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event and the illegitimate distortion of the historical records

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In Answer option A and B ..there is full stop at end, i think it is a typo ..

C , D and E , i think , they are wrong as in non underlined part we have "which is" , so we need singular noun .."historical records" is plural ...
Between A and B , i will stick with A ...
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I think B is correct, not sure if it should be in that or because but rest of the sentence looks right..

Please release OA.
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My answer is D :
A. in that the former involves either the illegitimate distortion of the historical records or the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event. which after the comma refers to distortion of the hisorical records
B. because the former involves either the illegitimate distortion of the historical records or the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event. same than A
C. in that the former involves either the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event or the illegitimate distortion of the historical records In that does not convey the right sense
D. because the former involves either the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event or the illegitimate distortion of the historical records correct answer
E. in that the former involves the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event and the illegitimate distortion of the historical records either one or the other in the original answer, this meaning is not conveyed here
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[quote="pushpitkc"]The correct answer to this question is Option C

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In option E as mentioned in the video, since there and hence which will refer to the entire clause? How is that true? Doesn't which refer to the noun preceding it immediately with an exception of prepositional clause in which it can also refer to the noun of the prepositional clause if that makes sense?

I am also not sure of the source of this question. Doesn't look like GMAT-like.
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pushpitkc wrote:
The correct answer to this question is Option C

Please find below Video explanation



In option E as mentioned in the video, since there and hence which will refer to the entire clause? How is that true? Doesn't which refer to the noun preceding it immediately with an exception of prepositional clause in which it can also refer to the noun of the prepositional clause if that makes sense?

I am also not sure of the source of this question. Doesn't look like GMAT-like.


Hello anupriyajain,

Thanks for the post.

You are correct about your observation about "which"; the video is explaining the same thing- that 'which' has to refer to a noun preceding it; but because of the "...and..." construction, the preceding noun becomes compound "a and b" and "which" (singular) cannot refer to it. There is a slip in using the term "clause" in the explanation that may have led to the confusion; we will correct it.

Further, I hope you got the main difference, explained in the last ~15 seconds of the video- the need for "either...or" construction rather than the "and" construction for conveying the intended meaning of the sentence.

Thanks.

Originally posted by Maxximus on 30 Sep 2018, 05:55.
Last edited by Maxximus on 30 Sep 2018, 06:08, edited 1 time in total.
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My answer is D :
A. in that the former involves either the illegitimate distortion of the historical records or the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event. which after the comma refers to distortion of the hisorical records
B. because the former involves either the illegitimate distortion of the historical records or the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event. same than A
C. in that the former involves either the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event or the illegitimate distortion of the historical records In that does not convey the right sense
D. because the former involves either the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event or the illegitimate distortion of the historical records correct answer
E. in that the former involves the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event and the illegitimate distortion of the historical records either one or the other in the original answer, this meaning is not conveyed here


Hello pierredmq,

Thanks for the message.

You may not be clear about the usage of "in that" versus "because". Please watch the following 1-minute video to understand the difference-



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My answer is D :
A. in that the former involves either the illegitimate distortion of the historical records or the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event. which after the comma refers to distortion of the hisorical records
B. because the former involves either the illegitimate distortion of the historical records or the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event. same than A
C. in that the former involves either the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event or the illegitimate distortion of the historical records In that does not convey the right sense
D. because the former involves either the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event or the illegitimate distortion of the historical records correct answer
E. in that the former involves the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event and the illegitimate distortion of the historical records either one or the other in the original answer, this meaning is not conveyed here


Hello pierredmq,

Thanks for the message.

You may not be clear about the usage of "in that" versus "because". Please watch the following 1-minute video to understand the difference-



All the best!
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Hows A and C any different ? I don't even know what historical negationism means.
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Kindly change "Historical negotionism" to "Historical negationism". I know it's trivial but got me confused for a second. C is definitely the answer.

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Historical negationism : In simpler terms it means distorting historical records.
So which has to refer to a noun which is similar to /conveys the idea of negationism, which it does in C ( illegitimate distortion ). In A,which is referring to "scholastic re-examination. This is a modifier error.
Hope its clear now.

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My answer is D :
A. in that the former involves either the illegitimate distortion of the historical records or the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event. which after the comma refers to distortion of the hisorical records
B. because the former involves either the illegitimate distortion of the historical records or the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event. same than A
C. in that the former involves either the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event or the illegitimate distortion of the historical records In that does not convey the right sense
D. because the former involves either the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event or the illegitimate distortion of the historical records correct answer
E. in that the former involves the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event and the illegitimate distortion of the historical records either one or the other in the original answer, this meaning is not conveyed here


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Historical revisionism is different from history in that the former involves either the illegitimate distortion of the historical records or the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event, which is a form of historical negotionism

A. in that the former involves either the illegitimate distortion of the historical records or the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event.
B. because the former involves either the illegitimate distortion of the historical records or the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event.
C. in that the former involves either the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event or the illegitimate distortion of the historical records
D. because the former involves either the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event or the illegitimate distortion of the historical records
E. in that the former involves the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event and the illegitimate distortion of the historical records

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I was hesitant between A and C because of the typo in negotionism ,so please kindly replace negotionism with "negationism" = denial of historical event
as a non-native english speaker, it got me confused because I could'nt figure if negotionism was some kind of neologism
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EducationAisle,

How do we decide between "in that" and "because".

Both make sense.

Historical revisionism is different because....
Historical revisionism is different in the sense that....

Please share your two cents
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How do we decide between "in that" and "because".

Both make sense.

Historical revisionism is different because....
Historical revisionism is different in the sense that....

Please share your two cents

Hi, the intended meaning of the sentence does not seem to present a "cause and effect" relationship in a strict sense.

Hence, I would agree that "in that" does make more sense here.
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EducationAisle,

When we read the sentence with because, don't we have a cause and effect?

Historical revisionism is different from history. (Effect).

Cause would be the because part.

Whenever we have a split between "in that" and "because", should we go with "in that"?

Any other errors that would lead us to eliminate the wrong choices.
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EducationAisle,

When we read the sentence with because, don't we have a cause and effect?

Historical revisionism is different from history. (Effect).

Cause would be the because part.

Whenever we have a split between "in that" and "because", should we go with "in that"?

Any other errors that would lead us to eliminate the wrong choices.

"cause and effect" relationships are generally much more explicit.

For example: I performed well in GMAT because I had prepared well.

Notice that "I performed well in GMAT in that I had prepared well" just would not make the cut.

The current sentence however, is talking about in what sense is Historical revisionism is different from history.

For other errors, you might want to refer to the solution posted by the makers of this question here.
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pushpitkc wrote:
Historical revisionism is different from history in that the former involves either the illegitimate distortion of the historical records or the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event, which is a form of historical negotionism

A. in that the former involves either the illegitimate distortion of the historical records or the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event.
B. because the former involves either the illegitimate distortion of the historical records or the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event.
C. in that the former involves either the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event or the illegitimate distortion of the historical records
D. because the former involves either the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event or the illegitimate distortion of the historical records
E. in that the former involves the legitimate scholastic re-examination of existing knowledge about a historical event and the illegitimate distortion of the historical records

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In Answer option A and B ..there is full stop at end, i think it is a typo ..

C , D and E , i think , they are wrong as in non underlined part we have "which is" , so we need singular noun .."historical records" is plural ...
Between A and B , i will stick with A ...




You are wrong in your thinking. "Which" is modifying "distortion" and not "historical records" / Which can refer to a slight far away noun as long as there is no verb between "which" and the "modified noun". Here "distortion of historical records" , historical records is part of prepositional phrase and also does not make sense with which is a event so we will look a bit further to understand modification
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krndatta wrote:
EducationAisle,

When we read the sentence with because, don't we have a cause and effect?

Historical revisionism is different from history. (Effect).

Cause would be the because part.

Whenever we have a split between "in that" and "because", should we go with "in that"?

Any other errors that would lead us to eliminate the wrong choices.

"cause and effect" relationships are generally much more explicit.

For example: I performed well in GMAT because I had prepared well.

Notice that "I performed well in GMAT in that I had prepared well" just would not make the cut.

The current sentence however, is talking about in what sense is Historical revisionism is different from history.

For other errors, you might want to refer to the solution posted by the makers of this question here.


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How would we know which noun phrase here "which" is modifying?
In case, which is modifying 2 or more than 2 entities joined by "OR", then which should be followed by a "plural" verb or "singular" verb?
For example below:
Tom or Peter, who are/is tall, will play basketball.
Mercedez Benz or Audi, which is/are luxury cars, is/are costly.
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How would we know which noun phrase here "which" is modifying?
In case, which is modifying 2 or more than 2 entities joined by "OR", then which should be followed by a "plural" verb or "singular" verb?
For example below:
Tom or Peter, who are/is tall, will play basketball.
Mercedez Benz or Audi, which is/are luxury cars, is/are costly.

If we think about this type of construction logically, we can see that two singular nouns joined by "or" would not be plural because the construction names one OR the other.

So, the correct version is.

Tom or Peter, who IS tall, will play basketball.

Additionally, a relative clause placed after an "a or b" construction will always modify the noun or noun phrase that comes after "or."
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