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Politician: A major social problem is children hurting other children.

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"Politician: A major social problem is children hurting other children. The results of a recent experiment by psychologists establish that watching violent films is at least partly responsible for this aggressive behavior. The psychologists conducted an experiment in which one group of children watched a film of people punching Bobo the Clown dolls. The second group of children was not shown the film. Afterward, both groups of children played together in a room containing a Bobo doll. Most of the children who had seen the film punched the Bobo doll, while most of the other children did not.

Which one of the following, if true, most weakens the politician's argument?

(A) Some of the children who did not punch the Bobo doll, including some who had been shown the film, chastised those who did punch the doll."

(B) The child who punched the Bobo doll the hardest and the most frequently had not been shown the film.

(C) The children who had been shown the film were found to be no more likely than the children who had not been shown the film to punch other children."

(D) Some children who had not been shown the film imitated the behavior of those who had been shown the film and who punched the doll.

(E) Many of the children who participated in the experiment had never seen a Bobo doll before the experiment.

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Could someone explain why is C the answer and not B ?
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I am choosing B. What is the OA??


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Could someone explain why is C the answer and not B ?


B: it is talking about just one child, the action of just one child can not be made into a conclusion for all.
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Isn't C strengthening the politican's argument?
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It seems that C weakens the argument because the argument speaks of hurting children and not dolls, thus C also speaks of none of children in the experiment being violent against other children.
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C says that all children are n more likely to punch other children than doesn't it strengthen the politician's argument as children did imitate punching behavior after watching the movie
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C says that all children are n more likely to punch other children than doesn't it strengthen the politician's argument as children did imitate punching behavior after watching the movie


Hey subhsngh0 - no, it weakens it, since the politician is claiming that the movie is a cause for the violence - but if both groups were violent to the same degree, this means it probably is not the cause, but rather something that is common to both groups is.
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It seems that C weakens the argument because the argument speaks of hurting children and not dolls, thus C also speaks of none of children in the experiment being violent against other children.


sony1000 you're in the right direction, but a small correction: C does not say none of the children in the experiment are violent, it just says the violence was the same in both groups (the phrase "no more likely" does not meant "not likely" but rather "not more likely than what's stated next).
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Isn't C strengthening the politican's argument?


sandesh87 nope, it's weakening.
The politician is claiming the movie is the cause of the violence: movie ==> violence
(C) is telling us that the kids who didn't watch the movie are also violent: therefore, something else must be the reason: something else > violence
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IMHO, we need to find an answer choice which will say that the film is not the primary cause for the children punching the Bobo doll, or there is no difference in behavior between the group of children who has watched the film and the group of children who did not watch the film. Answer choice “C” says that.
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C says that all children are n more likely to punch other children than doesn't it strengthen the politician's argument as children did imitate punching behavior after watching the movie


Hey subhsngh0 - no, it weakens it, since the politician is claiming that the movie is a cause for the violence - but if both groups were violent to the same degree, this means it probably is not the cause, but rather something that is common to both groups is.


Hey DavidTutorexamPAL So why are the children, who did not watch the movie, not punching bobo doll if all the children have same degree of violence and movies don't have any impact?
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PRanjan1988 wrote:
Could someone explain why is C the answer and not B ?

sandesh87 wrote:
Isn't C strengthening the politican's argument?

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C says that all children are n more likely to punch other children than doesn't it strengthen the politician's argument as children did imitate punching behavior after watching the movie

There seems to be a lot of confusion about the answer choices, but not a lot of discussion about what the argument is actually saying. So let's get very clear about what is written in this passage.

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Politician: A major social problem is children hurting other children. The results of a recent experiment by psychologists establish that watching violent films is at least partly responsible for this aggressive behavior. The psychologists conducted an experiment in which one group of children watched a film of people punching Bobo the Clown dolls. The second group of children was not shown the film. Afterward, both groups of children played together in a room containing a Bobo doll. Most of the children who had seen the film punched the Bobo doll, while most of the other children did not.

The politician's conclusion is: The results of the Bobo experiment establish that watching violent films is at least partly responsible for this aggressive behavior.

Wait, what is "this aggressive behavior" referring to again? It's referring to children hurting other children. So let's trace the logic of this politician's claim:

  • Psychologists conducted an experiment involving 2 groups of children.
  • Group 1 watched a film of people punching Bobo dolls.
  • Group 2 was not shown the film.
  • When both groups were subsequently given Bobo dolls, most children in group 1 punched the doll. Most children in group 2 did not punch the doll.
  • Therefore, watching violent films is at least partly responsible for children hurting other children.

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Which one of the following, if true, most weakens the politician's argument?

What's wrong with this picture? One thing that jumps out right away is that this politician leaps from watching kids punch dolls to claiming that kids are going to punch other kids. Dolls are not children, so the this leaves me wondering how the two can be logically connected. Let's see if any of the answer choices address this gap in reasoning.

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(A) Some of the children who did not punch the Bobo doll, including some who had been shown the film, chastised those who did punch the doll."

Why do we care whether these children are judging each other? The conclusion is that watching films will lead to children hurting each other. Eliminate (A).

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(B) The child who punched the Bobo doll the hardest and the most frequently had not been shown the film.

A single child in Group 2 punched the doll, and happened to punch it really hard and really frequently. (Steve Martin fans can say this with me: "Somebody hates these dolls! Stay away from the dolls!"). This doesn't change anything for us. It's still true that most children in Group 1 punched the doll, and most children in Group 2 did not punch the doll. And we're still miles away from the conclusion about children hurting other children. Since this fact about one Bobo-punching child doesn't give us anything to weaken that conclusion, it's logically irrelevant. So we'll eliminate (B).

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(C) The children who had been shown the film were found to be no more likely than the children who had not been shown the film to punch other children.

Wow, this choice really is a sucker punch (pun intended) to the conclusion. If Group 1 and Group 2 are equally likely to punch other children, then it really doesn't matter how the children treat Bobo dolls. The conclusion was that watching violent films is at least partly responsible for children hurting other children, not children punching dolls. Choice (C) address this conclusion head-on and basically obliterates it, so we'll keep this choice around.

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(D) Some children who had not been shown the film imitated the behavior of those who had been shown the film and who punched the doll.

This tell us nothing about whether children who watched the film are more likely to hurt other children. Eliminate choice (D).

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(E) Many of the children who participated in the experiment had never seen a Bobo doll before the experiment.

This is totally irrelevant to the conclusion. We only care about effect of films on children's behavior towards other children. Eliminate (E).

(C) is by far the best answer choice, and really the only choice that directly addresses the conclusion presented by this politician. The children seem safe for now, but please say a prayer for Bobo!
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