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Can you help me with this question?

1. I got confused by what the table is. The "x" on the top left corner: I read it as x and not multiplication.

2. Even if I go past point 1, I am still not sure on how to approach this question.
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Bunuel

Can you help me with this question?

1. I got confused by what the table is. The "x" on the top left corner: I read it as x and not multiplication.

2. Even if I go past point 1, I am still not sure on how to approach this question.

Hey TheNightKing ,
Please refer to my explanation above. Please let me know if you have any doubt.
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Please refer to my explanation above. Please let me know if you have any doubt.
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Thank you Sir. Since you wrote each of the multiplications explicitly it became easier to see what's happening.
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Hey sayan
I am not able to understand the login behind the multiplication results explanations
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Each entry in the multiplication table above is an integer that is either positive, negative, or zero. What is the value of a ?

(1) h ≠ 0
(2) c = f
DS95850.01

any letter is an integer positive, negative or zero

(1) insufic
bc=h≠0, so (b,c,h) are not 0
no info about a or d

(2) insufic
c=f, ac=f, ac=c, ac=c
c=0, then, a=anything
a=1, then, c=anything

(1/2) sufic
c≠0, thus,
a=1, then, c=anything≠0

Ans (C)
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What is the value of a?

(1) h ≠ 0
b * c = h

This statement tells us that neither b nor c are zero. However, we can't determine the value of a. INSUFFICIENT.

(2) c = f

The chart tells us c * a = f

We can conclude a = 1 or c = 0
if c = 0, a = any value
if a = 1, c = any value

INSUFFICIENT.

(1&2) From statement 1 we know c ≠ 0. Therefore we can conclude a = 1. SUFFICIENT.

Answer is C.
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why C please?

the table also shows c * c = j --> f * f = j ; f # j => f # 0 ==> c #0 ==> B is sufficient.
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why C please?

the table also shows c * c = j --> f * f = j ; f # j => f # 0 ==> c #0 ==> B is sufficient.

willnguyen2409, that is now how this multiplication table works. Only the first operation that you have mentioned is correct. Sayan has explained the table perfectly in the following manner -

This is like a 3*3 matrix and results in the following products ,
a^2 = d
a*b = e
a*c = f
a*b = e
b^2 = g
b*c = h
c*a = f
c*b = h
c^2 = j

The above calculations are the only ones being shown by the table. Let me know if this doesn't help and you need more clarity on why the answer is C.
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still not sure about it. isn't statement 2 say c =f ==> f^2 = j
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still not sure about it. isn't statement 2 say c =f ==> f^2 = j

Yes, that is correct. But, what if C = 0, then A could literally B any value and hence that statement is not sufficient.

We need statement 1 to make sure that C is not equal to 0 as it says that b*c=h and h ≠ 0, which implies that neither C nor B is 0.

Hope that helps!
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Given:
a*c = f

(1) h is not 0.

c*b = h --> c can not be 0.

a can take different values. Not sufficient.


(2): c = f

a can be 0 if c and f are both 0:
0*0 = 0

a can be 1:
1*1 = 1
1*10 = 10

a can be negative if c and f are both 0:
-1*0 = 0

a can take different values. Not sufficient.


(1) + (2):

If c can not be 0, a can not be negative.
If c can not be 0, a can not be 0.

a can only be 1:

a*c = f, c = f -->

1*1 = 1
1*10 = 10
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Statement 1 is clearly insufficient individually
Statement 2 :
ac=f from table gives a=1 ; however a=0 also satisfies the condition
therefore insufficient
Now staement 1 and 2 together
bc=h ,=>b and c not equal to zero and bc = f , therefore f has to be non-zero
hence a=1 suff
Therefore IMO C
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h= b*c
h is not equal to zero so neither b nor c is zero.
but this doesn't tell about a.
not sufficient.

Statement-2
c=f
a*c= f
this expression can hold if c=f=0
a can have any value.
and If C=F= any value, a is always 1.
not sufficient

Statement 1+2
value of c is except zero.
and for these value, a is always 1.

C is correct answer.

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What is the value of a?

(1) h ≠ 0
b * c = h

This statement tells us that neither b nor c are zero. However, we can't determine the value of a. INSUFFICIENT.

(2) c = f

The chart tells us c * a = f

We can conclude a = 1 or c = 0
if c = 0, a = any value
if a = 1, c = any value

INSUFFICIENT.

(1&2) From statement 1 we know c ≠ 0. Therefore we can conclude a = 1. SUFFICIENT.

Answer is C.


Thanks Basshead. Why is the need to test below two cases when c = 0, a=1 already? And how is a could be any value? Not sure what did I miss? Thanks for your time in advanced.

if c = 0, a = any value
if a = 1, c = any value
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Each entry in the multiplication table above is an integer that is either positive, negative, or zero. What is the value of a ?

(1) h ≠ 0
(2) c = f


DS95850.01


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Lets take the statements directly,
1) h is non zero
and from table,
cb=h
Therefore, c and b are non zero from 1.
This doesn't help find value of a.
2) c=f
and from table,
f=ac
before you go cancelling the common value c and f. Please note that we can cancel it only if we know that c and f are non zero.
and if we cannot cancel then this statement also doesn't help us get value of a.

Combining, we can say in the eqn. 2, c and f are non zero from enq. 1. So, we can cancel the common value of c and f from statement 2 inference.
and we get a=1.
This is a single answer. hence combined statement is the answer. Ans-C.
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