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Is |x-1| <1?
Since Absolute value function is always non negative, we can square both sides,

We get is (x-1)^2<1?

Statement 1 is (x-1)^2< = 1

If (x-1)^2<1: answer to question is yes

(x-1)^2= 1: hence answer is No,

So Statement 1 is NOT SUFFICIENT.



Statement2: Question stem (x-1)^2<1?

Can be reduced to is x(x-2)<0

Or is 0<x<2

Now St2: x^2-1>0 gives x >1 or x <-1

Now x can be -2, answer to question stem is No

Or 1.5 answer to question stem is yes.

Hence NOT SUFFICIENT.



Combining both Statement 1 & 2, we get

X can be 2, answer to question stem- NO

Or 1.5 answer to question stem is yes.



Hence Answer E


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Bunuel wrote:
13. Is |x-1| < 1?
(1) (x-1)^2 <= 1
(2) x^2 - 1 > 0

Last one.

Is |x-1| < 1? Basically the question asks is 0<x<2 true?

(1) (x-1)^2 <= 1 --> x^2-2x<=0 --> x(x-2)<=0 --> 0<=x<=2. x is in the range (0,2) inclusive. This is the trick here. x can be 0 or 2! Else it would be sufficient. So not sufficient.

(2) x^2 - 1 > 0 --> x<-1 or x>1. Not sufficient.

(1)+(2) Intersection of the ranges from 1 and 2 is 1<x<=2. Again 2 is included in the range, thus as x can be 2, we cannot say for sure that 0<x<2 is true. Not sufficient.

Answer: E.


Still not clear on this one.
Can you please explain why is 1 insufficient I am not able to eliminate 1 also why is not C sufficient?
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8. a*b#0. Is |a|/|b|=a/b?
(1) |a*b|=a*b
(2) |a|/|b|=|a/b|

|a|/|b|=a/b is true if and only a and b have the same sign, meaning a/b is positive.

(1) |a*b|=a*b, means a and b are both positive or both negative, as LHS is never negative (well in this case LHS is positive as neither a nor b equals to zero). Hence a/b is positive in any case. Hence |a|/|b|=a/b. Sufficient.

(2) |a|/|b|=|a/b|, from this we can not conclude whether they have the same sign or not. Not sufficient.

Answer: A.


Can someone clarify whether |a/b|=|a|\|b| exists as a property?
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Bunuel wrote:
8. a*b#0. Is |a|/|b|=a/b?
(1) |a*b|=a*b
(2) |a|/|b|=|a/b|

|a|/|b|=a/b is true if and only a and b have the same sign, meaning a/b is positive.

(1) |a*b|=a*b, means a and b are both positive or both negative, as LHS is never negative (well in this case LHS is positive as neither a nor b equals to zero). Hence a/b is positive in any case. Hence |a|/|b|=a/b. Sufficient.

(2) |a|/|b|=|a/b|, from this we can not conclude whether they have the same sign or not. Not sufficient.

Answer: A.


Can someone clarify whether |a/b|=|a|\|b| exists as a property?


Yes, \(|\frac{a}{b}|=\frac{|a|}{|b|}\) and \(|ab|=|a|*|b|\) are generally true.
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2. If y is an integer and y = |x| + x, is y = 0?

Notice that from \(y=|x|+x\) it follows that y cannot be negative:
If\(x>0\), then \(y=x+x=2x=2*positive=positive\);
If \(x\leq{0}\) (when x is negative or zero) then \(y=-x+x=0\).

(1) \(x<0\) --> \(y=|x|+x=-x+x=0\). Sufficient.

(2) \(y<1\). We found out above that y cannot be negative and we are given that y is an integer, hence \(y=0\). Sufficient.


Answer: D.


HiBunuel,

Shouldn't it be like this

if |x|=x if \(x\geq 0\)
then y=x+x which means y=2x

and if f |x|= - x if x<0
then
y=-x+x which means y=0

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Bunuel wrote:
2. If y is an integer and y = |x| + x, is y = 0?

Notice that from \(y=|x|+x\) it follows that y cannot be negative:
If\(x>0\), then \(y=x+x=2x=2*positive=positive\);
If \(x\leq{0}\) (when x is negative or zero) then \(y=-x+x=0\).

(1) \(x<0\) --> \(y=|x|+x=-x+x=0\). Sufficient.

(2) \(y<1\). We found out above that y cannot be negative and we are given that y is an integer, hence \(y=0\). Sufficient.


Answer: D.


HiBunuel,

Shouldn't it be like this

if |x|=x if \(x\geq 0\)
then y=x+x which means y=2x

and if f |x|= - x if x<0
then
y=-x+x which means y=0

Probus.


Both are correct. If x = 0, then |0| = 0 as well |0| = -0 = 0.
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9. Is n<0?
(1) -n=|-n|
(2) n^2=16

(1) -n=|-n|, means that either n is negative OR n equals to zero. We are asked whether n is negative so we can not be sure. Not sufficient.

(2) n^2=16 --> n=4 or n=-4. Not sufficient.

(1)+(2) n is negative OR n equals to zero from (1), n is 4 or -4 from (2). --> n=-4, hence it's negative, sufficient.

Answer: C.


Is (1) even a correct clue? How can an absolute value be negative? Please help me understand.
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9. Is n<0?
(1) -n=|-n|
(2) n^2=16

(1) -n=|-n|, means that either n is negative OR n equals to zero. We are asked whether n is negative so we can not be sure. Not sufficient.

(2) n^2=16 --> n=4 or n=-4. Not sufficient.

(1)+(2) n is negative OR n equals to zero from (1), n is 4 or -4 from (2). --> n=-4, hence it's negative, sufficient.

Answer: C.


Is (1) even a correct clue? How can an absolute value be negative? Please help me understand.


We have -n=|-n|. Now, if n is negative or 0 then -n is positive or 0, so the absolute value, which is on the right hand side, does not equal to negative number. All is correct there.
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10. If n is not equal to 0, is |n| < 4 ?
(1) n^2 > 16
(2) 1/|n| > n

Question basically asks is -4<n<4 true.

(1) n^2>16 --> n>4 or n<-4, the answer to the question is NO. Sufficient.

(2) 1/|n| > n, this is true for all negative values of n, hence we can not answer the question. Not sufficient.

Answer: A.


also , if n lies between 0 to 1 then (2) is possible Ex: n=0.1

n=( - infinity, 1) -> not sufficient
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3. Is x^2 + y^2 > 4a?
(1) (x + y)^2 = 9a
(2) (x – y)^2 = a

(1) (x + y)^2 = 9a --> x^2+2xy+y^2=9a. Clearly insufficient.

(2) (x – y)^2 = a --> x^2-2xy+y^2=a. Clearly insufficient.

(1)+(2) Add them up 2(x^2+y^2)=10a --> x^2+y^2=5a. Also insufficient as x,y, and a could be 0 and x^2 + y^2 > 4a won't be true, as LHS and RHS would be in that case equal to zero. Not sufficient.

Answer: E.

The question doesn't ask us to calculate the value of x^2+y^2, then why we need to consider the values of x,y, and a here?, could you please explain.
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Hi Bunuel,

Can you please explain your analysis for statement (a). I don't think I understood it well

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7. |x+2|=|y+2| what is the value of x+y?
(1) xy<0
(2) x>2 y<2

This one is quite interesting.

First note that |x+2|=|y+2| can take only two possible forms:

A. x+2=y+2 --> x=y. This will occur if and only x and y are both >= than -2 OR both <= than -2. In that case x=y. Which means that their product will always be positive or zero when x=y=0.
B. x+2=-y-2 --> x+y=-4. This will occur when either x or y is less then -2 and the other is more than -2.

When we have scenario A, xy will be nonnegative only. Hence if xy is negative we have scenario B and x+y=-4. Also note that vise-versa is not right. Meaning that we can have scenario B and xy may be positive as well as negative.

(1) xy<0 --> We have scenario B, hence x+y=-4. Sufficient.

(2) x>2 and y<2, x is not equal to y, we don't have scenario A, hence we have scenario B, hence x+y=-4. Sufficient.

Answer: D.
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Hi Bunuel,

Can you please explain your analysis for statement (a). I don't think I understood it well

Bunuel wrote:
7. |x+2|=|y+2| what is the value of x+y?
(1) xy<0
(2) x>2 y<2

This one is quite interesting.

First note that |x+2|=|y+2| can take only two possible forms:

A. x+2=y+2 --> x=y. This will occur if and only x and y are both >= than -2 OR both <= than -2. In that case x=y. Which means that their product will always be positive or zero when x=y=0.
B. x+2=-y-2 --> x+y=-4. This will occur when either x or y is less then -2 and the other is more than -2.

When we have scenario A, xy will be nonnegative only. Hence if xy is negative we have scenario B and x+y=-4. Also note that vise-versa is not right. Meaning that we can have scenario B and xy may be positive as well as negative.

(1) xy<0 --> We have scenario B, hence x+y=-4. Sufficient.

(2) x>2 and y<2, x is not equal to y, we don't have scenario A, hence we have scenario B, hence x+y=-4. Sufficient.

Answer: D.


You might find the following solution easier: https://gmatclub.com/forum/inequality-a ... l#p1111747

Hope it helps.
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Do I need to memorize this ?
"(2) |x-y| < |x|, says that the distance between x and y is less than distance between x and origin. This can only happen when x and y have the same sign, when they are both positive or both negative, when they are at the same side from the origin. Sufficient. (Note that vise-versa is not right, meaning that x and y can have the same sign but |x| can be less than |x-y|, but if |x|>|x-y| the only possibility is x and y to have the same sign.)"

or is there some other way to remember this?

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11. Is |x+y|>|x-y|?
(1) |x| > |y|
(2) |x-y| < |x|

To answer this question you should visualize it. We have comparison of two absolute values. Ask yourself when |x+y| is more then than |x-y|? If and only when x and y have the same sign absolute value of x+y will always be more than absolute value of x-y. As x+y when they have the same sign will contribute to each other and x-y will not.

5+3=8 and 5-3=2
OR -5-3=-8 and -5-(-3)=-2.

So if we could somehow conclude that x and y have the same sign or not we would be able to answer the question.

(1) |x| > |y|, this tell us nothing about the signs of x and y. Not sufficient.

(2) |x-y| < |x|, says that the distance between x and y is less than distance between x and origin. This can only happen when x and y have the same sign, when they are both positive or both negative, when they are at the same side from the origin. Sufficient. (Note that vise-versa is not right, meaning that x and y can have the same sign but |x| can be less than |x-y|, but if |x|>|x-y| the only possibility is x and y to have the same sign.)

Answer: B.
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I am just extending your explanation.
St. 1 tells Mod (R) <= S
St. 2 tells Mod (R) >= S

Combining these two
Mod(R)= S
Now here can be two conditions
either R= S
or -R =S

So I think E is correct.


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12. Is r=s?
(1) -s<=r<=s
(2) |r|>=s



I'm getting c

1. s can be 3 and r can be 3 which makes question yes
s can be 3 and r can be 2 which makes question no
insufficient

2. r can be 3 and s can be 3 makes question yes
r can be 3 s can be 2 makes question no
insufficient

combining:
|r|>=s means
r>=s or r<=-s

and -s<=r<=s means
-s<=r and r<=s

now we have -s<=r and -s>=r so -s = r or s = r
r>=s and r<=s so s = r
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8. a∗b≠0a∗b≠0. Is |a||b|=ab|a||b|=ab?
(1) |a∗b|=a∗b|a∗b|=a∗b
(2) |a||b|=|ab|

St-1
Here can be two cases, either both are positive or both are negative. The both cases satisfies the expression given in question stem.
Sufficient.

St.-1
This st. is also satisfied for all negative as well as positive values of both x and y.
And for all respective values of x and y, the question stem doesn't satisfy.

For ex. x= 2, y = -3
st. 2 is satisfying with these two values, but question stem not.
Another set of x, y= 2, 3
St. 2 as well as question stem is satisfying with this stem.

A is correct answer.
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Bunuel wrote:
4. Are x and y both positive?
(1) 2x-2y=1
(2) x/y>1

(1) 2x-2y=1. Well this one is clearly insufficient. You can do it with number plugging OR consider the following: x and y both positive means that point (x,y) is in the I quadrant. 2x-2y=1 --> y=x-1/2, we know it's an equation of a line and basically question asks whether this line (all (x,y) points of this line) is only in I quadrant. It's just not possible. Not sufficient.

(2) x/y>1 --> x and y have the same sign. But we don't know whether they are both positive or both negative. Not sufficient.

(1)+(2) Again it can be done with different approaches. You should just find the one which is the less time-consuming and comfortable for you personally.

One of the approaches:
\(2x-2y=1\) --> \(x=y+\frac{1}{2}\)
\(\frac{x}{y}>1\) --> \(\frac{x-y}{y}>0\) --> substitute x --> \(\frac{1}{y}>0\) --> \(y\) is positive, and as \(x=y+\frac{1}{2}\), \(x\) is positive too. Sufficient.

Answer: C.


If I were to substitute values instead, to check if C is correct

The first equation can be written as x-y = 0.5

Using second equation, I know x is greater than y.

If I substitute x = 2.5 and y = 2, both my values are positive and x-y = 0.5

However, if I use x = -2 and y = -2.5, then x - y = -2 - (-2.5) = 0.5 is also true.

In this case, both x and y are negative. So I thought the answer should be E.

Please explain. Thanks
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Bunuel wrote:
4. Are x and y both positive?
(1) 2x-2y=1
(2) x/y>1

(1) 2x-2y=1. Well this one is clearly insufficient. You can do it with number plugging OR consider the following: x and y both positive means that point (x,y) is in the I quadrant. 2x-2y=1 --> y=x-1/2, we know it's an equation of a line and basically question asks whether this line (all (x,y) points of this line) is only in I quadrant. It's just not possible. Not sufficient.

(2) x/y>1 --> x and y have the same sign. But we don't know whether they are both positive or both negative. Not sufficient.

(1)+(2) Again it can be done with different approaches. You should just find the one which is the less time-consuming and comfortable for you personally.

One of the approaches:
\(2x-2y=1\) --> \(x=y+\frac{1}{2}\)
\(\frac{x}{y}>1\) --> \(\frac{x-y}{y}>0\) --> substitute x --> \(\frac{1}{y}>0\) --> \(y\) is positive, and as \(x=y+\frac{1}{2}\), \(x\) is positive too. Sufficient.

Answer: C.


If I were to substitute values instead, to check if C is correct

The first equation can be written as x-y = 0.5

Using second equation, I know x is greater than y.

If I substitute x = 2.5 and y = 2, both my values are positive and x-y = 0.5

However, if I use x = -2 and y = -2.5, then x - y = -2 - (-2.5) = 0.5 is also true.

In this case, both x and y are negative. So I thought the answer should be E.

Please explain. Thanks


\(\frac{x}{y}>1\) does not mean that \(x>y\). If both x and y are positive, then \(x>y\), BUT if both are negative, then \(x<y\).

From (2) \(\frac{x}{y}>1\), we can only deduce that x and y have the same sigh (either both positive or both negative).[/quote]

If you check, you'll see that x = -2 and y = -2.5 do not satisfy x/y > 1.

Check more solutions of this question here: https://gmatclub.com/forum/are-x-and-y- ... 63377.html
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Bunuel wrote:
13. Is |x-1| < 1?
(1) (x-1)^2 <= 1
(2) x^2 - 1 > 0

Last one.

Is |x-1| < 1? Basically the question asks is 0<x<2 true?

(1) (x-1)^2 <= 1 --> x^2-2x<=0 --> x(x-2)<=0 --> 0<=x<=2. x is in the range (0,2) inclusive. This is the trick here. x can be 0 or 2! Else it would be sufficient. So not sufficient.

(2) x^2 - 1 > 0 --> x<-1 or x>1. Not sufficient.

(1)+(2) Intersection of the ranges from 1 and 2 is 1<x<=2. Again 2 is included in the range, thus as x can be 2, we cannot say for sure that 0<x<2 is true. Not sufficient.

Answer: E.



(2) x^2 - 1 > 0 --> x<-1 or x>1. Not sufficient.:
its x^2-1^2>0
(x-1)*(x+1)>0
x>1;x>-1 ???

I will questioning everything i know if this turns out to be wrong
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Bunuel wrote:
13. Is |x-1| < 1?
(1) (x-1)^2 <= 1
(2) x^2 - 1 > 0

Last one.

Is |x-1| < 1? Basically the question asks is 0<x<2 true?

(1) (x-1)^2 <= 1 --> x^2-2x<=0 --> x(x-2)<=0 --> 0<=x<=2. x is in the range (0,2) inclusive. This is the trick here. x can be 0 or 2! Else it would be sufficient. So not sufficient.

(2) x^2 - 1 > 0 --> x<-1 or x>1. Not sufficient.

(1)+(2) Intersection of the ranges from 1 and 2 is 1<x<=2. Again 2 is included in the range, thus as x can be 2, we cannot say for sure that 0<x<2 is true. Not sufficient.

Answer: E.

If the combination range was 1<x<2, then will correct answer be option C??

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