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Thai village crafts, as with other cultures, have developed through the principle that form follows function and incorporate readily available materials fashioned using traditional skills

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The crafts themselves did nothing; they have developed through meaning that they were developed through, a passive voice action. So ‘as did those’ in B is incorrect.
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Here, village crafts of thai are simply being compared with the village crafts of other cultures. No clause-clause comparison is made. And in E like has been used correctly.

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Consider the comparison being done - Thai village crafts are being compared to other crafts.

This is a noun to noun comparison.

If you write 'did', it would mean comparing a noun to an action(verb). This would be inappropriate.
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I understand we are not comparing actions here hence straight to D and E. E seems to be the choice

but why D is wrong

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Thai village crafts, as with other cultures, have developed through the principle that form follows function and incorporate readily available materials fashioned using traditional skills

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Thai village crafts, as with other cultures, have developed through the principle that form follows function and incorporate readily available materials fashioned using traditional skills

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Those of in this case is a demonstrative pronoun referring to "Crafts "
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amatya wrote:
Thai village crafts, as with other cultures, have developed through the principle that form follows function and incorporate readily available materials fashioned using traditional skills

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Those of in this case is a demonstrative pronoun referring to "Crafts "


can you please explain why option 'D' is incorrect!
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amatya wrote:
Thai village crafts, as with other cultures, have developed through the principle that form follows function and incorporate readily available materials fashioned using traditional skills

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What are we comparing -- we are comparing crafts of thai village with crafts of other culture..

what is happening in D..


Thai village crafts, like in other cultures, have developed through the principle ..
Errors--
1) the comparison is not even valid..
like is wrong here, "in other culture" is NOT noun and even if the comparison was correct , AS would be used ..
2) say the comparison is valid, which actually is not..
what does the sentence read-
Thai village crafts, like Thai village crafts in other cultures, have developed through the principle ..

Illogical even if take the sentence is correct grammatically
So D is out both grammatically and meaning wise..

How does E rectify it>


Thai village crafts, like those of other cultures, have developed through the principle ..
what is thai village crafts - crafts of thai village..
so those replaces CRAFTS and is correct
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amatya wrote:
Thai village crafts, as with other cultures, have developed through the principle that form follows function and incorporate readily available materials fashioned using traditional skills

(A) as with
(B) as did those of
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(D) like in
(E) like those of


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Can someone explain why 'D' is incorrect, and what is referrant for those in option 'E'


Hi,
sudhirmadaan and smartguy595,

What are we comparing -- we are comparing crafts of thai village with crafts of other culture..

what is happening in D..


Thai village crafts, like in other cultures, have developed through the principle ..
Errors--
1) the comparison is not even valid..
like is wrong here, "in other culture" is NOT noun and even if the comparison was correct , AS would be used ..
2) say the comparison is valid, which actually is not..
what does the sentence read-
Thai village crafts, like Thai village crafts in other cultures, have developed through the principle ..

Illogical even if take the sentence is correct grammatically
So D is out both grammatically and meaning wise..

How does E rectify it>


Thai village crafts, like those of other cultures, have developed through the principle ..
what is thai village crafts - crafts of thai village..
so those replaces CRAFTS and is correct


Hi chetan2u,

thanks for the explanation. I missed this point - "like must always be followed by noun/pronoun" :(
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I understand we are not comparing actions here hence straight to D and E. E seems to be the choice

but why D is wrong

chetan2u please explain


The usage of "like in" denotes a location (in a house, in a room, in a country) but here we are not acting, we are comparing. Like is correct, but "in" is not. I immediately thought, "like others", and E fits the bill. Hope this helps!

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I wanted to understand the usage of 'as' vs 'like'

Manhattan SC books says like cannot be used if it follows a prepositional phrase/clause. So here wouldn't 'as' be a better usage? What's wrong with 'C' ?

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amatya wrote:
Thai village crafts, as with other cultures, have developed through the principle that form follows function and incorporate readily available materials fashioned using traditional skills

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(D) like in
(E) like those of


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Can someone explain why 'D' is incorrect, and what is referrant for those in option 'E'


Hi,
sudhirmadaan and smartguy595,

What are we comparing -- we are comparing crafts of thai village with crafts of other culture..

what is happening in D..


Thai village crafts, like in other cultures, have developed through the principle ..
Errors--
1) the comparison is not even valid..
like is wrong here, "in other culture" is NOT noun and even if the comparison was correct , AS would be used ..
2) say the comparison is valid, which actually is not..
what does the sentence read-
Thai village crafts, like Thai village crafts in other cultures, have developed through the principle ..

Illogical even if take the sentence is correct grammatically
So D is out both grammatically and meaning wise..

How does E rectify it>


Thai village crafts, like those of other cultures, have developed through the principle ..
what is thai village crafts - crafts of thai village..
so those replaces CRAFTS and is correct

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I wanted to understand the usage of 'as' vs 'like'

Manhattan SC books says like cannot be used if it follows a prepositional phrase/clause. So here wouldn't 'as' be a better usage? What's wrong with 'C' ?



Thai village crafts,like those of other cultures , have developed through the principle that form follows function and incorporate readily available materials fashioned using traditional skills

1. Like is used for stating a comparison ( Thai Village Culture ----> Other Cultures)
2. Like is followed by a Pronoun ( Those ---> Referring to Crafts )

Refer MGMAT SC

Like is used to compare nouns, pronouns, or noun phrases.


Hence (E) is correct..........

Please follow go through this article to find out yourself why AS is not correct in this case -

as-vs-like-correct-and-incorrect-usages-133950.html

In case of any doubt feel free to revert...

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Thai village crafts, as with other cultures, have developed through the principle that form follows function and incorporate readily available materials fashioned using traditional skills

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Like is always followed by noun/pronoun and not by prepositions.

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marked E

you need like, like are useful for noun comparisons, which is signalled by 'thai crafts' at the start of the sentence

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Hi experts,
I reviewed this question again, and had same "did" problem here, i genuinely want your further explain.
I had a correct sentence from MANATTAN SC on Page 100.
MANHATTAN SC wrote:
As her brother DID, Ava aced the test.

there is no antecedent verb before "DID",
Did i miss something that "Did" in this context is used to replace an antecedent verb ?

and another question is should helping verb and antecedent verb be in same form ?
I have a correct sentence from GMATPrep
GMATPrep wrote:
Since 1990 the global economy HAS GROWN more than it DID during the 10000 years from the beginning of agriculture to 1950.

while I had a couple of sentences from MANHATTAN SC on Page 202
MANHATTAN SC wrote:
wrong: I have never seen an aardvark, but last year my father DID

Right: I have never seen an aardvark, but last year my father SAW.

it confused me a lot.

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Hi experts,
I reviewed this question again, and had same "did" problem here, i genuinely want your further explain.
I had a correct sentence from MANATTAN SC on Page 100.
MANHATTAN SC wrote:
As her brother DID, Ava aced the test.

there is no antecedent verb before "DID",
Did i miss something that "Did" in this context is used to replace an antecedent verb ?

and another question is should helping verb and antecedent verb be in same form ?
I have a correct sentence from GMATPrep
GMATPrep wrote:
Since 1990 the global economy HAS GROWN more than it DID during the 10000 years from the beginning of agriculture to 1950.

while I had a couple of sentences from MANHATTAN SC on Page 202
MANHATTAN SC wrote:
wrong: I have never seen an aardvark, but last year my father DID

Right: I have never seen an aardvark, but last year my father SAW.

it confused me a lot.

waiting for your reply
thanks a lot
have a nice day
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Your first query:

Ideally "as did those of other cultures" should have been placed before or after the compared clause, not in between.

As did those of other cultures, Thai village crafts have developed.... would be better.

However this example still has the tense mix problem as highlighted in your second query. As mentioned in your example " Since 1990 the global economy...", GMAT seems to accept this tense mix issue.

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village crafts should be compared with crafts and not with cultures, which can be done with option E.
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zoezhuyan wrote:
Hi experts,
I reviewed this question again, and had same "did" problem here, i genuinely want your further explain.
I had a correct sentence from MANATTAN SC on Page 100.
MANHATTAN SC wrote:
As her brother DID, Ava aced the test.

there is no antecedent verb before "DID",
Did i miss something that "Did" in this context is used to replace an antecedent verb ?

and another question is should helping verb and antecedent verb be in same form ?
I have a correct sentence from GMATPrep
GMATPrep wrote:
Since 1990 the global economy HAS GROWN more than it DID during the 10000 years from the beginning of agriculture to 1950.

while I had a couple of sentences from MANHATTAN SC on Page 202
MANHATTAN SC wrote:
wrong: I have never seen an aardvark, but last year my father DID

Right: I have never seen an aardvark, but last year my father SAW.

it confused me a lot.

waiting for your reply
thanks a lot
have a nice day
>_~


Your first query:

Ideally "as did those of other cultures" should have been placed before or after the compared clause, not in between.

As did those of other cultures, Thai village crafts have developed.... would be better.

However this example still has the tense mix problem as highlighted in your second query. As mentioned in your example " Since 1990 the global economy...", GMAT seems to accept this tense mix issue.


thanks sayantan2c,
so far,GMAT accepts some ambiguous pronoun and mixed tense of helping verb,
I am afraid I will miss some other acceptance like these, would you please add if I miss

appreciate

have a nice day
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