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Thai village crafts, as with other cultures, have developed through the principle that form follows function and incorporate readily available materials fashioned using traditional skills

(A) as with
(B) as did those of
(C) as they have in
(D) like in
(E) like those of


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grammatically, "as" is used to compare 2 actions and "like" is used to compare 2 nouns. but meaningfully, "as" is used to show that two actions is done in the same way and "like" is used to show that two noun do the same action. it is clear that "as" and "like" show two different meaning relation.

in b, we do not want to show that two actions is done in the same way. we do not want to say that "thai village craft" have developed in the same way as other crafts. we want to say two kind of craft are similar in that they develop through a priciple.

moreover, in B, the verb tense "did" is not good here. we do not want to say that other craft used to develop through a principle.
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Thai village crafts, as with other cultures, have developed through the principle that form follows function and incorporate readily available materials fashioned using traditional skills

(A) as with
--> wrong comparison.

(B) as did those of
--> no reason to use past tense.

(C) as they have in
--> "they" is ambiguous.

(D) like in
--> wrong comparison

(E) like those of
--> correct.
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New post 15 Jun 2017, 02:02
The long sentence can be cut short and written as :

Thai village crafts, as with other cultures, have developed through X and incorporate Y.

or even shorter

Thai village crafts, as with other cultures, have XYZ.

Now as other experts have mentioned, the comparison is "Thai crafts Vs Crafts of Other Cultures" because it is illogical to compare crafts with cultures.

So, (E) like those of
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The author is trying to compare crafts from Thai village with crafts from other cultures. Hence the only answer that compares crafts with other crafts is E

Thai village crafts, like those(crafts) of other cultures, have developed through the principle that form follows function and incorporate readily available materials fashioned using traditional skills
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This is a comparison question, in which we need to logically compare noun "crafts" to noun "crafts" of other cultures or "those" of other cultures, in this case, "those" is referring to cultures of other villages.

Hence, Answer is E
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Im sorry to ask an irrelevant question like this, but can anybody explain for me the grammar used in this part of the sentence : " that form follows function and incorporate readily available materials fashioned using traditional skills" . why does the word "follows" got the "s" and also the "fashioned using" part. Thanks a lot
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New post 10 Oct 2017, 03:43
Can someone please explain why option C is incorrect here?

I marked E but was a bit confused between C and E. I thought 'Thai village crafts have developed' could be parallel to 'as they (crafts) have (developed - omitted for ellipsis effect) in'.
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Im sorry but i still have difficulty with comparisons even after watching your videos. kindly help.
Now my first choice is Option D . Also option E uses those of which is a clause following like which is incorrect. Kindly help. thank you
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Im sorry but i still have difficulty with comparisons even after watching your videos. kindly help.
Now my first choice is Option D . Also option E uses those of which is a clause following like which is incorrect. Kindly help. thank you



Hello longhaul123,

I will be glad to help you with this one. :-)


Choice D is incorrect because the comparison word like has been followed by a preposition in. This usage is incorrect because when presenting comparison, like must be followed by the noun entity that forms one part of the comparison. It is not followed by any other entity.


Now let's talk about Choice E. Please bear in mind that a clause MUST have a subject and its verb. However, there is no verb in the structure that follows like.

In the phrase those of other cultures, the pronoun those stands for crafts. This phrase clearly presents the logical comparison between Thai village crafts and crafts of other cultures.


Hope this helps. :-)
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Can someone please explain why option C is incorrect here?

I marked E but was a bit confused between C and E. I thought 'Thai village crafts have developed' could be parallel to 'as they (crafts) have (developed - omitted for ellipsis effect) in'.



Hello somesh86,

I am not sure of you still have this doubt. Nonetheless, here is the explanation. :-)


In Choice C, pronoun they refers to Thai village crafts, a reference that doesn’t make sense since it is nonsensical to say Thai village crafts have developed in other cultures. Hence, Choice C is incorrect.


Hope this helps. :-)
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Im sorry to ask an irrelevant question like this, but can anybody explain for me the grammar used in this part of the sentence : " that form follows function and incorporate readily available materials fashioned using traditional skills" . why does the word "follows" got the "s" and also the "fashioned using" part. Thanks a lot




Hello AmeliaLuu,

I am not sure of you still have this doubt. Nonetheless, here is the explanation. :-)


Following is the structure of this official sentence with the correct answer choice E:

Thai village crafts, like those of other cultures, have developed through the principle
that form follows function
and incorporate readily available materials fashioned using traditional skills.



In the above mentioned sentence, the plural subject Thai village crafts have two verbs - have developed and incorporate.

The subject for the singular verb follows is singular noun form. So the subject and the verb are in the same number.


The phrase fashioned using traditional skills is a verb-ed modifier that presents additional information about the noun readily available materials.

The sentence says that the materials used Thai village crafts are fashioned by using traditional skills.


Hope this helps. :-)
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Th e phrase as with other cultures is initially
confusing given that no culture has been
specifi cally mentioned; Th ai village culture is
indirectly referenced by the mention of Th ai village
crafts , so perhaps that is what is meant. But then,
looking at the phrase in context, it becomes clear
that the sentence is intended to indicate that the
crafts of other cultures are similar in certain ways
to Th ai village crafts. Th us, the sentence should say
those of other cultures . Furthermore, the use here of
as with is questionable. To do the job it is supposed
to do here (to indicate that the crafts of Th ai
villages are like the crafts of other cultures in a
particular way), as with should be at the beginning
of the sentence: As with the crafts of other cultures,
Th ai village crafts have developed. . . . Alternatively,
like could be used here instead of as with .
A Th e appropriate comparison is between Th ai
village crafts and those (i.e., crafts) of other
cultures, not the other cultures themselves.
Additionally, like would be more appropriate
here than as with .
B Th e verb form here is incorrect. [ D ] id is not
parallel to have later in the sentence. Th e
phrase as have those of other cultures would be
parallel, but it is in the wrong position. To be
correct, it would need to occur after the main
verb is introduced: Th ai village crafts have
developed, as have those of other cultures, . . .
C Th e use of the pronoun they is inaccurate; the reader is likely to take its antecedent
to be Th ai village crafts , not crafts . Furthermore, even if the pronoun here
were not problematic, if the construction as they have in other cultures is used, it should
occur after the main verb ( have developed ) is introduced.

D The comparative term like compares two nouns or noun phrases, but in this version
of the sentence, like compares a noun ( crafts ) with a prepositional phrase ( in other
cultures ).
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Logical predication; Diction; Verb form
e phrase as with other cultures is initially confusing given that no culture has been speci cally mentioned; ai village culture is indirectly referenced by the mention of ai village crafts, so perhaps that is what is meant. But then, looking at the phrase in context, it becomes clear that the sentence is intended to indicate that the crafts of other cultures are similar in certain ways to ai village crafts. us, the sentence should say those of other cultures. Furthermore, the use here of as with is questionable. To do the job it is supposed to do here (to indicate that the crafts of ai villages are like the crafts of other cultures in a particular way), as with should be at the beginning of the sentence: As with the crafts of other cultures, ai village crafts have developed. . . . Alternatively, like could be used here instead of as with.
A e appropriate comparison is between ai village crafts and those (i.e., crafts) of other cultures, not the other cultures themselves. Additionally, like would be more appropriate here than as with.
B e verb form here is incorrect. [D]id is not parallel to have later in the sentence. e phrase as have those of other cultures would be parallel, but it is in the wrong position. To be correct, it would need to occur after the main verb is introduced: ai village crafts have developed, as have those of other cultures, . . .
C e use of the pronoun they is inaccurate; the reader is likely to take its antecedent
to be ai village crafts, not crafts. Furthermore, even if the pronoun here were not problematic, if the construction as they have in other cultures is used, it should occur after the main verb (have developed) is introduced.
D e comparative term like compares two nouns or noun phrases, but in this version of the sentence, like compares a noun (crafts) with a prepositional phrase (in other cultures).
E Correct. [T]hose of other cultures clearly refers to the crafts of other cultures; like is appropriate for making a comparison between two sorts of things (crafts).
The correct answer is E.

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