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That's right, we're forming a subjunctive in the modifier starting with "mandating." This is actually correct!

However, the question as a whole needs to be thrown out. You can't "assure children of aid." You can assure them of the existence of Santa Claus, but not of a service that they need to have. This usage is completely unidiomatic. Also, one might think that "children [plural] who have a reading problem [singular]" is unambiguously wrong, but not so. Check out the plural-singular noun-modifier matchup in the correct answer to this official question: https://gmatclub.com/forum/neanderthals ... l#p2710951
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why is "Mandated" wrong?

Can someone explain why option 4 is correct. should not there be 'and' between "whenever possible" and "also".

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I thought "mandated" was a typo because, as you pointed out, the school board would have done two things: "mandated" AND "also assured". Since none of the sentence had a connnecting word between the two, the sentence was awkward. The sentence now as written reads "The school board (mandating some stuff) also assured...." Where everything after "mandating" is now a modifier of "school board". (You could also use "mandated" if the word "which" preceeded it: "The school board which mandated (stuff) also assured...")

Curly changed the sentence to its proper wording.
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You mean all children jiontly have one problem? Again there are so many kinds of heart problems such as a hole in any of the chambers, or a non-working valve, or a blocked artery etc etc.
However, what is the point in calling all these problems as just a problem?
WE don't say people have a problem in their life. We say people have problems in their leives, becuase all have theor own lives and their own problem. Don't they?
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The school board ruling mandated that physically handicapped students ( be placed in regular classroom settings whenever possible also assured all children who have a reading problem) of special aid.

1) stays the same
2) should be placed in regular classroom settings whenever possible also assures all children that have a reading problem.
3) are placed in regular classroom settings whenever posssible also assures those children who are having reading problems
4) be placed in regular classroom settings whenever possible also assured children with reading problems

5) should be placed in regular classroom settings whenver possible also has assured all those children with a reading problem.
" whenver possible
" also assured " with reading problems of special aid" sounds like a run-on.


Are you SURE you got copied this sentence correctly. None of the choices make sense unless the beginning of the sentence reads:

The school board ruling mandating that physically handicapped students . . . .
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"reading problem"(Singular) should have been "reading problems"(Plural) in 'A'.
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"reading problem"(Singular) should have been "reading problems"(Plural) in 'A'.



Is it same thing that HongHu mentioned?


"people shook their heads" instead of "head"?

Children cannot have a problem?
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The school board ruling mandating that physically handicapped students be placed in regular classroom settings whenever possible also assured all children who have a reading problem of special aid.


(A) be placed in regular classroom settings whenever possible also assured all children who have a reading problem : Multiple students have multiple problems, not singular, ELIMINATE

(B) should be placed in regular classroom settings whenever possible also assures all children that have a reading problem : Same as A

(C) are placed in regular classroom settings whenever possible also assures those children who are having reading problems : "those" children, whose children? No clear antecedent; "having" is a avoidance ; "be" not used in subjunctive sentence. ELIMINATE

(D) be placed in regular classroom settings whenever possible also assured children with reading problems : Correct answer

(E) should be placed in regular classroom settings whenever possible also has assured all those children with a reading problem : Same as A


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1. Eliminate A, B, E on basis of SVA
2. Eliminate C on basis of subjunctive rule : All request/ order words should have "be" succeeding them .
3, Correct answer is D
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why is "Mandated" wrong?

Can someone explain why option 4 is correct. should not there be 'and' between "whenever possible" and "also".

Thanks,
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Captain Akami,

Please listen to the discussion. Is "also assured" right,
thanks buddy.

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Captain Akami,

Please listen to the discussion. Is "also assured" right,
thanks buddy.

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You, having the good fortune to be enlightened by Evensflow's explanation of the subjuctive, can be also assured that "also assured" is just fine in all of the choices.
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D 2.

subjunctive mode and the correct plural use.
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If you say, mandating, then -also assured- is no problem. That becomes a simple sentence with one subject and one verb

If you say mandated, then there is a problem. A simple sentence can have only one verb; the second verb assured (in all the choices) becomes additional and the sentences are run-ons.

This is a fit case for the use of command subjunctive and the base form verb be; Between 1, 2 and 4, 2 is wordier, when it uses children who/that/ have a reading problem, in comparison to 4’s , also assured children with reading problems; 1 and 2 also call their reading problems as a single problem, which does not go well with the plural structure of children


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can u explain the last line
why we need problems here ?
the children with heart problem are fine now.
is this wrong?
will we say :
the children with heart problems are fine now.
can u plz elabroate
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please explain the difference between options A and D
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please explain the difference between options A and D

Hi Priya, for A to be correct, following version would be more parallel:

The school board ruling mandating that students who are physically handicapped be placed in regular classroom settings whenever possible also assured all children who have a reading problem of special aid.

So, this would have ensured a more parallel structure, by using relative clauses consistently:
i) students who are physically handicapped
ii) children who have a reading problem
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what are the splits that we notice here.
In first words in all the five sentences : "be placed" or "should be" or "are placed", which one is correct usage and why?
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The school board ruling mandating that physically handicapped students be placed in regular classroom settings whenever possible also assured all children who have a reading problem of special aid.


(A) be placed in regular classroom settings whenever possible also assured all children who have a reading problem

(B) should be placed in regular classroom settings whenever possible also assures all children that have a reading problem

(C) are placed in regular classroom settings whenever possible also assures those children who are having reading problems

(D) be placed in regular classroom settings whenever possible also assured children with reading problems

(E) should be placed in regular classroom settings whenever possible also has assured all those children with a reading problem


As per my understanding, the sentence structure of A is-
The school board ruling
mandating that physically handicapped students be placed in regular classroom settings whenever possible also
assured all children
who have a reading problem of special aid.

Here, school board ruling is the subject and assured is its verb; mandating that physically handicapped........possible also is the modifier
But the subjunctive form is applied to the ing- modifier, is that acceptable?

The subjunctive form used here is
Subject + bossy verb + that + something be done

I assume that subjunctive should be applied to SV + that.....is my understanding wrong?? If not, then how does the construction of the above sentence makes sense?


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sampriya wrote:
please explain the difference between options A and D

Hi Priya, for A to be correct, following version would be more parallel:

The school board ruling mandating that students who are physically handicapped be placed in regular classroom settings whenever possible also assured all children who have a reading problem of special aid.

So, this would have ensured a more parallel structure, by using relative clauses consistently:
i) students who are physically handicapped
ii) children who have a reading problem


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So the main reason to chose D over A was this subtle parallelism error? I couldn't find anything glaringly wrong with option A. Maybe I am missing something ?
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