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New post 30 Jul 2017, 01:46
As per Word web dictionary;

likelihood---Noun
Meaning--The probability of a specified outcome
Uses- "there is little likelihood of a meltdown comparable to the American banking collapse in March 1933"

That is why use of "greater" is more appropriate...


Also...I think you can use "more" with "likely" which is an adjective....but "Likelihood" becomes a noun and hence "greater" is more suitable before it..I hope it clears the air :)
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New post 23 Sep 2017, 09:46
"D" is the correct choice - The sentence is precise and grammatically correct.

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"A", "B" and "C" we eliminated - more vs. greater rule (adjectives of quantity)
"E" was eliminated - "greater was coronary disease likely" - incorrect messaging (coronary disease was greater) not what we are looking for.
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Question No.: SC 677
Page: 683

A long-term study of some 1,000 physicians indicates that the more coffee these doctors drank, the more they had a likelihood of coronary disease.

(A) more they had a likelihood of coronary disease
(B) more was their likelihood of having coronary disease
(C) more they would have a likelihood to have coronary disease
(D) greater was their likelihood of having coronary disease
(E) greater was coronary disease likely


Likelihood means probability. So it is a countable noun, having a numerical value. Thus, "more" is wrongly used in A, B and C.

E is awkward structure. Thus answer=D
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New post 04 Nov 2017, 22:22
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My thoughts :

Even though the costs of paying baseball players amounted to greater than one half of the overall cost of operating a Major League Baseball team last year, Major League Baseball franchise owners were still willing to pay increasingly higher salaries to top players.

Greater is used for comparing two different things.

Ex: The price of gold is several orders magnitude greater than the price of silver.
We are comparing the price of two different metals.

For rest of the type comparison more can be used.

BTW, what is the official answer for above question.


Hello Dharan,

Even I chose greater over more because of the points discussed above in the thread.

When we compare things that are number in itself such as proportion, area, volume, cost, we must use greater.

However, OA is amounted to more.

I doubt OA. Can anyone please explain ?

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Can anyone explain this OA please?
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Please help me understand why their in the correct choice cannot refer to the physicians. Grammatically, it can!
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Please help me understand why their in the correct choice cannot refer to the physicians. Grammatically, it can!


It refers to the nearest noun "these doctors". It is too far to refer back to "the physicians"
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A long-term study of some 1,000 physicians indicates that the more coffee these doctors drank, the more they had a likelihood of coronary disease.

(A) more they had a likelihood of coronary disease
(B) more was their likelihood of having coronary disease
(C) more they would have a likelihood to have coronary disease
(D) greater was their likelihood of having coronary disease
(E) greater was coronary disease likely

This is an interesting question!

I would like to jot down what I have understood based on my knowledge.

more ===> used for countable nouns and uncountable nouns that are not quantity nouns/words

greater ==> used for uncountable nouns that are quantity nouns/words

Considering above points, we have the noun "likelihood" (uncountable noun) which means "probability" (quantity noun), we should be using the word "greater" here for comparison purposes.


Hence, Option A, B and C are out (Though there are other errors in A and C which I will not write as GMAT Ninja has explained it in great detail)

We are left with option D and E

Option E has multiple errors and such as it is un-idiomatic and uses an adjective "greater" to describe an adverb "likely" which is ungrammatical

We are now only left with D after POE.

Hence, Answer is D

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Hi,
can we eliminate option B on the below basis-
The idiom in B is as follows:
The more X, the more Y.
In this idiom, the more cannot be followed by a verb- The more coffee these doctors drank, the more was their likelihood
The comparison in B is not grammatically viable.
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New post 03 Apr 2018, 07:34
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A long-term study of some 1,000 physicians indicates that the more coffee these doctors drank, the more they had a likelihood of coronary disease.[/b]

(A) more they had a likelihood of coronary disease
(B) more was their likelihood of having coronary disease
(C) more they would have a likelihood to have coronary disease
(D) greater was their likelihood of having coronary disease
(E) greater was coronary disease likely


Hi,
can we eliminate option B on the below basis-
The idiom in B is as follows:
The more X, the more Y.
In this idiom, the more cannot be followed by a verb- The more coffee these doctors drank, the more was their likelihood
The comparison in B is not grammatically viable.




Hello sunny91,

I am not sure if you still have this doubt. Here is the explanation nonetheless. :-)


The reason that you have presented cannot be used to reject Choice B.

If you compare the structure of Choice B with the correct answer choice D, they both are identical except for the word more in Choice B and greater in Choice D.

Hence, the reason that more cannot be followed by a verb is not sound enough to reject Choice B.


Hope this helps. :-)
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LithiumIon wrote:
The Official Guide for GMAT Review 2017

Practice Question
Question No.: SC 677
Page: 683

A long-term study of some 1,000 physicians indicates that the more coffee these doctors drank, the more they had a likelihood of coronary disease.

(A) more they had a likelihood of coronary disease
(B) more was their likelihood of having coronary disease
(C) more they would have a likelihood to have coronary disease
(D) greater was their likelihood of having coronary disease
(E) greater was coronary disease likely


QA : D , Greater was their likelihood, firstly GMAT prefers greater as it provides a clear picture without any redundancy . Rest the entire system is idiomatic , Because of X , they will have a disease called Y " .

that's what my understanding.
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Guys,

Give the concrete explanation than justifying the correct answer choice. OG 's explanation may be suitable for this question only. But it is still not clear when to use greater Vs More.

I see in MGMAT SC 6th EDITION, page 69. GREAT can be used for uncountable modifiers. But at the same time, it is also said that more, most, enough and all work with both countable ( plural ) and uncountable ( singular ) nouns. When the choices are between greater and more atleast for me is still a puzzle, as I still think "likelihood" as uncountable modifier and both more & greater can be used.


Here is what I think, on "likelihood"

A. likelihood is not a numerical quantity like, length, rate, population, number etc.. [ I dont know whether I need to include probability to justify it as a number ]
greater can be used here " The population of Colombia is greater than that of Argentina " Courtesy - beatthegmat
Here more is preferred for likelihood.

B. likelihood is like nouns that are uncountable like patience, influence, courage, water [ can be measurable not countable ], greed, anger, money.
The Etruscans had raised an army in which each soldier had selected another, and they fought with greater forces, and greater courage, than ever before.
Courtesy : Romes Italian Wars, page 214.
Here also we used greater. So in both A and B we are using greater.
Here greater is preferred for likelihood.

I am not a expert here taking snail steps to catch up the clarity. Expert comments are needed


After going through various suggestions by GMAT experts at Magoosh and Manhattan, I could arrive at the following conclusion:

The positive....comparative...superlative forms of certain adjectives of quantity are as follows:

set 1. many...more...most
set 2. much...more....most
set 3. great...greater...greatest

While set 1 (many...more...most) is used for countable nouns, set 2 (much...more....most) and set 3 (great...greater...greatest) are used for uncountable nouns.

Now there could be 2 types of uncountable nouns
type a. Quantity word / numbers themselves (e.g. price, volume, weight, probability etc.) are uncountable.
type b. Other uncountable nouns (honesty, poverty, etc as you mentioned)

The set 2 (much...more....most) is used for type b (other uncountable nouns) uncountable nouns.
The set 3 ( great...greater...greatest) is used for type a (Quantity word / numbers) uncountable nouns.

Therefore we see that "more" can be used for (i) countable nouns and (ii) uncountable nouns that are not quantity words/ numbers.
"Greater" can be used for (iii) uncountable nouns that are quantity words/ numbers.



Thanks for summarizing it so well. It was very helpful.
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New post 25 Jun 2018, 06:18
Whole explanations based on deciding what to chose between more and greater, but I actually couldn't understand which elements made parallel and why this such an awkward sentence is true?
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