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sjaskaran is SPOT on.

a THING cannot inspire you
someONE can.
A thing can be an inspiration.
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Agatha Christie's travels with her archaeologist husband inspired her to write several mystery novels; travelers to Egypt can still stay at the Old Cataract Hotel, the model for the hotel in one of Christie's most famous books.

• Agatha Christie's travels with her archaeologist husband inspired her to write several mystery novels close 2nd choice... However ,the antecedents of the last 'her' is not clear..

• Agatha Christie used her travels with her archaeologist husband to inspire several mystery novels
changes the meaning

• Because her husband was an archaeologist, Agatha Christie was able to use their travels as inspiration for several of her mystery novels changes the meaning..the inspiring novels were not because husband was an archaeologist

• Together with her archaeologist husband, Agatha Christie was inspired to incorporate their travel into several of her mystery novels
changes the meaning..the inspiring novels were notwritten by both

• Agatha Christie's travels with her archaeologist husband served as inspiration for several of her mystery novels
corrects the last 'her' by changing into her novels

a good question
ans E..
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The confusion is between A & E in this case. There is a major meaning issue with the choice A.

Agatha Christie's travels with her archaeologist husband inspired her to write several mystery novels; travelers to Egypt can still stay at the Old Cataract Hotel, the model for the hotel in one of Christie's most famous books.

The subject of the sentence is - Agatha Christie's travels. The main question to answer is -Did her travels inspire her to write "several" mystery novels or Did her travels worked as a source of inspiration for several mystery novels written by her
Choice A suggests that because of her travels she wrote (several) mystery novels, i.e. if her husband was not an archaeologist and she would not have travelled with him, then, she would not have written several mystery novels.

Choice E corrects the meaning error. It clearly says that her travels with her husband worked as a source of inspiration in several mystery novels written by her, i.e. her writing of several novels may not have contained a lot of places that she travelled with her husband if her husband was not an archaeologist & she was just a normal woman who did not travel to mysterious places such as archaeological sites and hotels visited during the archaeological site visits. However, she still would have written several novels based on her creativity.
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chetan2u wrote:
Agatha Christie's travels with her archaeologist husband inspired her to write several mystery novels; travelers to Egypt can still stay at the Old Cataract Hotel, the model for the hotel in one of Christie's most famous books.

• Agatha Christie's travels with her archaeologist husband inspired her to write several mystery novels close 2nd choice... however ,The antecedents of the last 'her' is not clear..

• Agatha Christie used her travels with her archaeologist husband to inspire several mystery novels
changes the meaning

• Because her husband was an archaeologist, Agatha Christie was able to use their travels as inspiration for several of her mystery novels changes the meaning..the inspiring novels were not because husband was an archaeologist

• Together with her archaeologist husband, Agatha Christie was inspired to incorporate their travel into several of her mystery novels
changes the meaning..the inspiring novels were notwritten by both


• Agatha Christie's travels with her archaeologist husband served as inspiration for several of her mystery novels
corrects the last 'her' by changing into her novels

a good question souvik..
ans E..

Hi Chetan2u!
Good question i agree. The only contenders are A and E. Could please explain what could be antecedent of the last "her" in option A? I see only one antecedent - Agatha Christie itself. Thanks!


Hi,
In A lets see the nouns and pronouns which we have..

1)Agatha's- this is possessive form..

2)her husband- again possessive form.. Correctly refers back to Agatha's husband..

3) her- this is object. there is no subject in the sentence to which it can refer to.. It cannot refer to possessive Agastha's..


this is changed in E by using her novel- possessive form again and correctly refering to Agastha's..
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Agatha Christie's travels with her archaeologist husband inspired her to write several mystery novels; travelers to Egypt can still stay at the Old Cataract Hotel, the model for the hotel in one of Christie's most famous books.

• Agatha Christie's travels with her archaeologist husband inspired her to write several mystery novels
Correct.
• Agatha Christie used her travels with her archaeologist husband to inspire several mystery novels
Incorrect. Novels cannot be "inspired".
• Because her husband was an archaeologist, Agatha Christie was able to use their travels as inspiration for several of her mystery novels
Incorrect. "their" has no antecedent.
• Together with her archaeologist husband, Agatha Christie was inspired to incorporate their travel into several of her mystery novels
Incorrect. "their" has no antecedent.
• Agatha Christie's travels with her archaeologist husband served as inspiration for several of her mystery novels
Incorrect. Novels cannot be "inspired".

The OA is clearly A.
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E is wrong because it is an indirect way of saying A. Remember, in the gmat verbs -inspired, are preferred to nouns 'inspiration'
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Agatha Christie's travels with her archaeologist husband inspired her to write several mystery novels; travelers to Egypt can still stay at the Old Cataract Hotel, the model for the hotel in one of Christie's most famous books.

A) Agatha Christie's travels with her archaeologist husband inspired her to write several mystery novels


I remember this one form one of MGMAT CAT and explanation that second "her" in A incorrectly refers to "Agatha Christie's" and that first "her" as possessive pronoun is correct.
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Confusing this question is..
Everywhere we read that pronoun can refer to only subject or object but not the possessive nouns.
Can someone point out the official question if there be any such to confirm our belief that it actually can.
egmat some insight into this.


First, possessive pronouns should not be confused with possessive adjectives:

This car is his: possessive pronoun.
This is his car: possessive adjective.

Second, Possessive nouns are used as adjectives. Therefore the following rules of thumb could be useful to remember:

1. Personal pronoun must refer to a noun, not an adjective. Hence a possessive noun cannot be an antecedent of a personal pronoun. ( John's... he: wrong)
2. Possessive adjective may refer to a possessive noun - both act as adjectives. (John's.. his: acceptable)
3. Possessive adjective though may refer to a noun. (John.... his: acceptable)
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3) her- this is object. there is no subject in the sentence to which it can refer to.. It cannot refer to possessive Agastha's..

Actually GMAT is quite flexible on this front.

So, it is not be a good idea to eliminate answer choices based on this.
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Just two points on your Observations
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her- this is object. there is no subject in the sentence to which it can refer to.. It cannot refer to possessive Agastha's..

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Actually GMAT is quite flexible on this front.

Could you please substantiate this point with some real OG Qs

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So, it is not be a good idea to eliminate answer choices based on this.


would you kindly give us a reason to eliminate the choice

Looking forward to hear from you
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chetan2u wrote:
3) her- this is object. there is no subject in the sentence to which it can refer to.. It cannot refer to possessive Agastha's..

Actually GMAT is quite flexible on this front.

So, it is not be a good idea to eliminate answer choices based on this.


Purely from grammar perspective, it is not acceptable to use a personal pronoun (subject or object) to refer to a possessive noun because a possessive noun acts as an adjective - a personal pronoun can replace only a noun, not an adjective. Therefore I definitely see a valid reasoning that chetan2u eliminated the choice. Nonetheless it would be interesting to see whether GMAT test writers ever deviated from this rule.
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Hi Chetan, you can refer to #109 in OG13 (Among the objects found...), where object pronoun is referring back to possessive noun.

Since this seems to be an unofficial question, I would be interested in knowing the OE. Theoretically, it can be argued that the travels did not inspire her to write; it was the experience she gained because of her travels that gave her the content for her novels.

However, as I mentioned, it's not an official question and so, one would be distinctly unfortunate, if one has to choose between A and E on the actual exam:).

p.s. This fact (object pronouns can refer to subject nouns) has been known for quite some time (at least since OG13, if not earlier); however, many people continued to believe that the subject pronoun can still not refer to possessive pronoun. An example in OG16 (can't remember off the top of my head, but can look it up) busted that myth as well!
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getting confused between choices a and e still inclined more towards choice a


Choice A: A Personal pronoun (subject or object) must have a noun as an antecedent. Possessive nouns function as adjectives and hence cannot act as antecedents of personal pronouns. In this option her is a personal pronoun (object) and hence Agatha Christie's, a possessive noun, cannot be its antecedent.

Choice E: However possessive adjectives [my, your, his, her, its, our, your (plural), their] may refer to possessive nouns, both being (or functioning as) adjectives. In this option her is a possessive adjective and therefore can refer to Agatha Christie's.


Agatha Christie's travels,with her archaeologist husband, inspired to write several of her mystery novels - Is this sentence correct? Here "HER" is used as a adjective which refers to Chirste (Possessive noun).

Agatha Christie's travels,with her archaeologist husband, inspired her to write mystery novels - Here the usage of "HER" is wrong. Since HER used here is a personal pronoun and it cannot refer a possessive noun. So the usage here is wrong.

Is my understanding correct?


Yes, you have correctly understood the idea I have tried to convey. However please note that there has been one instance (at least), in which GMAT test writers have used a personal pronoun (object) to refer to a possessive noun. Therefore it is better to use this tool as a last resort to eliminate answer choices, provided no other error is found in two answer choices, although as per certain grammar experts such use is not acceptable.
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I always falter while evaluating meaning in SC. Do you have any suggestion of improving it?

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(A) Agatha Christie's (adjective) travels with her archaeologist husband (phrase) inspired her to write several mystery novels
>> How can travel inspire? Eliminate!

(B) Agatha Christie used her travels with her archaeologist husband to inspire several mystery novels
>> This seems correct. Eg. I used my keyboard to type this doubt. So it is not keyboard by itself typing similarly it is not that travel by itself inspiring but Agatha using her travel (memory) inspired her.


(E) Agatha Christie's travels with her archaeologist husband served as inspiration for several of her mystery novels
Same logic as A + Novels cannot be inspired


Hey Rickooreo

Happy to help you with this very interesting question. It's an excellent example for the importance of meaning analysis.

But before we get to the answer choices, let's understand two important things:

    1. The word "inspire" has a literary meaning as well: to give somebody the idea for something, especially something artistic or that shows imagination
      The choice of decor was inspired by a trip to India.
      His tragic story later inspired a Hollywood film.
    Ref: https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries. ... ?q=inspire

    2. The second half of the sentence gives us a crucial clue to answering this question: travelers to Egypt can still stay at the Old Cataract Hotel, the model for the hotel in one of Christie's most famous books.
Now, point 2 above tells us that "inspire" takes the meaning mentioned in point 1 above.


Coming to Answer Choice Analysis:

A: Agatha Christie's travels with her archaeologist husband inspired her to write several mystery novels
I hope you now see why A, although grammatically correct, does not agree with the second half of the sentence. The author does not wish to say that Agatha's travels with her husband inspired her to write "a large number of" novels. The author wishes to say that her travels were the source of her inspiration for many of her novels, because she has used many of those locations in her own novels. Hence, A is incorrect.

B: Agatha Christie used her travels with her archaeologist husband to inspire several mystery novels
Although a writer can use something as inspiration, the correct idiom is "to use something as inspiration for something", and not "to use something to inspire something". Moreover, the phrase 'to inspire several mystery novels' could refer to someone else's novels and not necessarily her own novels'. For these reasons, B is incorrect.

E: Agatha Christie's travels with her archaeologist husband served as inspiration for several of her mystery novels
This choice brings out the meaning correctly. "Served as an inspiration for" is the right idiom. And "for several of her mystery novels" implies that many of her novels are based on her travels with her husband.


I hope this helps improve your understanding and helps you realize the importance of meaning analysis.

Happy Learning!

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I always falter while evaluating meaning in SC. Do you have any suggestion of improving it?

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(A) Agatha Christie's (adjective) travels with her archaeologist husband (phrase) inspired her to write several mystery novels
>> How can travel inspire? Eliminate!

(B) Agatha Christie used her travels with her archaeologist husband to inspire several mystery novels
>> This seems correct. Eg. I used my keyboard to type this doubt. So it is not keyboard by itself typing similarly it is not that travel by itself inspiring but Agatha using her travel (memory) inspired her.


(E) Agatha Christie's travels with her archaeologist husband served as inspiration for several of her mystery novels
Same logic as A + Novels cannot be inspired


Yes, before we jump into grammar, we must try to understand what the author is telling us by saying this sentence.

Would travel inspire someone to write mystery novels? Seems a bit unlikely. 'Travel' and visiting places doesn't have much to do with mystery stories. The 'travels' do not perform the action of 'inspiring to write many mystery novels.'
If we were given that her social work with prison inmates inspired her to write many mystery novels, that might make more sense. She listened to their stories and from there came the inspiration for mysteries. The second clause further makes it clear - Old Cataract Hotel is the model for a hotel in one of her novels. So she would have likely visited the hotel and modelled her novel hotel on that.

'served as an inspiration' in many novels means she took info from her travels and used it in many of her novels. That does make somewhat more sense.

That said, the difference between options (A) and (E) is not a lot. The official explanation points out the pronoun problem in option (A) but we know that GMAT accepts it. This might just be an old question from the test prep company.
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Agatha Christie's travels with her archaeologist husband inspired her to write several mystery novels; travelers to Egypt can still stay at the Old Cataract Hotel, the model for the hotel in one of Christie's most famous books.

• Agatha Christie's travels with her archaeologist husband inspired her to write several mystery novels close 2nd choice... however ,The antecedents of the last 'her' is not clear..

• Agatha Christie used her travels with her archaeologist husband to inspire several mystery novels
changes the meaning

• Because her husband was an archaeologist, Agatha Christie was able to use their travels as inspiration for several of her mystery novels changes the meaning..the inspiring novels were not because husband was an archaeologist

• Together with her archaeologist husband, Agatha Christie was inspired to incorporate their travel into several of her mystery novels
changes the meaning..the inspiring novels were notwritten by both


• Agatha Christie's travels with her archaeologist husband served as inspiration for several of her mystery novels
corrects the last 'her' by changing into her novels

a good question souvik..
ans E..

Hi Chetan2u!
Good question i agree. The only contenders are A and E. Could please explain what could be antecedent of the last "her" in option A? I see only one antecedent - Agatha Christie itself. Thanks!
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