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All of the athletes who will win a medal in competition have spent many hours training under an elite coach. Michael is coached by one of the world’s elite coaches; therefore it follows logically that Michael will win a medal in competition.

The argument above logically depends on which of the following assumptions?

(A) Michael has not suffered any major injuries in the past year.
(B) Michael’s competitors did not spend as much time in training as Michael did.
(C) Michael’s coach trained him for many hours.
(D) Most of the time Michael spent in training was productive.
(E) Michael performs as well in competition as he does in training.

I got stuck between C and E. I feel the argument will collapse if we negate option C.
Am I correct/wrong? Please explain?
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All of the athletes who will win a medal in competition have spent many hours training under an elite coach. Michael is coached by one of the world’s elite coaches; therefore it follows logically that Michael will win a medal in competition.

The argument above logically depends on which of the following assumptions?

(A) Michael has not suffered any major injuries in the past year.
(B) Michael’s competitors did not spend as much time in training as Michael did.
(C) Michael’s coach trained him for many hours.
(D) Most of the time Michael spent in training was productive.
(E) Michael performs as well in competition as he does in training.

I got stuck between C and E. I feel the argument will collapse if we negate option C.
Am I correct/wrong? Please explain?


There are 2 conditions for winning medal in competition -

1. Spending many hours under training
2.Coaching under one of the world’s elite coaches


From the stimulus the blue highllighted ( training under one of the worlds elite coaches ) is fulfilled however the red part ( Spending many hours under training ) is not mentioned and the author jumps to the conclusion , Michael will win a medal in competition.

So, the author is assuming the second criteria - " Spending many hours under training "

Hence IMHO (C)

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Hiii

The only thing matters here is whether Michael will be able to convert several hours of practice under elite coach into a success in tournament.

The supporting premise is ...who will win a medal in competition have spent many hours training under an elite coach.

If he doesn't, the argument conclusion falls apart.

Hence E.

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All of the athletes who will win a medal in competition have spent many hours training under an elite coach. Michael is coached by one of the world’s elite coaches; therefore it follows logically that Michael will win a medal in competition.

The argument above logically depends on which of the following assumptions?

(A) Michael has not suffered any major injuries in the past year.
(B) Michael’s competitors did not spend as much time in training as Michael did.
(C) Michael’s coach trained him for many hours.
(D) Most of the time Michael spent in training was productive.
(E) Michael performs as well in competition as he does in training.

I got stuck between C and E. I feel the argument will collapse if we negate option C.
Am I correct/wrong? Please explain?
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Hi,
the logic of the main statement itself is flawed..
The Q would have been better had it asked for "flaw in the logical reasoning"....

The logic in this Q is ..
all the As will have done B..
so since C is doing B, he will be A..
all the As will have done B.. does not mean all doing B will be As..

But taking the Q as it is, answer will be C..
For becoming a medallist .. it is necessary that many hours (requirement 1) of trg under elite coach (requirement 2)..
we know he has coached under elite coach..
so if he has to win a medal, he has to have trained for many hours..

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It would be better if you change therefore it follows logically that Michael will win a medal in competition. to micheal wins a medal in competition, to make the Questin logical
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this questions shows that outside knowledge cannot be applied to gmat.
test takers should only stick to/with what is written in the passage.

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Negation is fun!!! This is actually the first time I am applying negation.

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E need not be true.

Neg C breaks the conclusion as it contradicts the given argument.

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There are three parts which are important in this sentence -

Premise: All of the athletes who will win a medal in the competition have spent many hours training under an elite coach.

Michael is coached by one of the world’s elite coaches;

Conclusion: therefore it follows logically that Michael will win a medal in the competition. ( this is based on the assumption that he will spend "many hours training under the coach")

The argument above logically depends on which of the following assumptions?

(A) Michael has not suffered any major injuries in the past year.[Out of Scope: No mention of injuries]

(B) Michael’s competitors did not spend as much time in training as Michael did.[Out of Scope: Nothing has been mentioned about the comparison of hours spent by others in training. ]

(C) Michael’s coach trained him for many hours. [This is in line with our pre-thinking and has to be the CORRECT answer.]

(D) Most of the time Michael spent in training was productive. [Out of scope : No mention of productiveness in the passage]

(E) Michael performs as well in competition as he does in training.[Out of Scope: No mention of performance comparison in training and competition]

Correct answer: C
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Nevernevergiveup wrote:
All of the athletes who will win a medal in competition have spent many hours training under an elite coach. Michael is coached by one of the world’s elite coaches; therefore it follows logically that Michael will win a medal in competition.

The argument above logically depends on which of the following assumptions?

(A) Michael has not suffered any major injuries in the past year.
(B) Michael’s competitors did not spend as much time in training as Michael did.
(C) Michael’s coach trained him for many hours.
(D) Most of the time Michael spent in training was productive.
(E) Michael performs as well in competition as he does in training.

I got stuck between C and E. I feel the argument will collapse if we negate option C.
Am I correct/wrong? Please explain?


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To make this question better we should modify a sentence little

All of the athletes who will win a medal in competition have spent many hours training under an elite coach --> necessary condition
All of the athletes who have spent many hours training under an elite coach will win a medal in competition --> sufficient condition

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Since the question explicitly specifies to win a medal one needs to have elite coach + many hours training under him .. hence since Michael already has an elite coach he needs many hours of training to win the medal. Hence C

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I think it is the conditional reasoning
All of the athletes who will win a medal in competition have spent many hours training under an elite coach
= The athletes who win a medal in competition, they must have spent many hours training under an elite coach.
Sufficient condition: win a medal in competition
Necessary condition: study
=> Every answer choice that does not state this necessary condition will necessarily serve as assumption for the conclusion. For example,
A. Michael performs as well in competition as he does in training => But if he did not spend enough time training for the competition, he won't win
While it could be true, it does not have to be true.
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I think it is the conditional reasoning
All of the athletes who will win a medal in competition have spent many hours training under an elite coach
= The athletes who win a medal in competition, they must have spent many hours training under an elite coach.
Sufficient condition: win a medal in competition
Necessary condition: many hours training
=> Any answer choices that does not state this necessary condition will necessarily serve as assumption for the conclusion. For example,
A. Michael performs as well in competition as he does in training => But if he did not spend enough time training for the competition, he won't win
While it could be true, it does not have to be true.
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