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VeritasKarishma GMATNinja GMATNinjaTwo -

For option A -- I see option A as an "INFERENCE" and not an assumption

Per my understanding, Inferences are different than assumptions

Why is option A an assumption and not perhaps an INFERENCE ?



Break down the argument into its components:

Premises:
10% of clematis plants sold are jackmanii.

Conclusion:
Jackmanii is the most popular clematis plant.

What if there were only 2 varieties of clematis plants? 10% were jackmanii and 90% mackmanii. Will jackmanii be most popular? No.
What if there were only 10 varieties of clematis plants? Each sold 10%. Will jackmanii be most popular? No. If any plant sold less than 10%, another plant would have sold more than 10% to make up for it. Then that plant would be most popular. So jackmanii cannot be most popular if there are only 10 varieties.

We need to have more than 10 varieties for it to be possible.
So option (A) is necessary for conclusion to hold. Hence it is the assumption.

An inference is what we can infer from the given premises of the argument. It is the conclusion of the argument. This argument already has a conclusion. Option (A) can be inferred if the given conclusion is taken to be true. But an inference should be derived from the premises. An argument that asks you for an inference will not have a conclusion.
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jabhatta2 wrote:
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jabhatta2 wrote:
VeritasKarishma GMATNinja GMATNinjaTwo -

For option A -- I see option A as an "INFERENCE" and not an assumption

Per my understanding, Inferences are different than assumptions

Why is option A an assumption and not perhaps an INFERENCE ?



Break down the argument into its components:

Premises:
10% of clematis plants sold are jackmanii.

Conclusion:
Jackmanii is the most popular clematis plant.

What if there were only 2 varieties of clematis plants? 10% were jackmanii and 90% mackmanii. Will jackmanii be most popular? No.
What if there were only 10 varieties of clematis plants? Each sold 10%. Will jackmanii be most popular? No. If any plant sold less than 10%, another plant would have sold more than 10% to make up for it. Then that plant would be most popular. So jackmanii cannot be most popular if there are only 10 varieties.

We need to have more than 10 varieties for it to be possible.
So option (A) is necessary for conclusion to hold. Hence it is the assumption.

An inference is what we can infer from the given premises of the argument. It is the conclusion of the argument. This argument already has a conclusion. Option (A) can be inferred if the given conclusion is taken to be true. But an inference should be derived from the premises. An argument that asks you for an inference will not have a conclusion.


Thank you VeritasKarishma for responding - just curious, if option A was just the following :

Option A instead ) In the largest nursery in America , No other variety of clematis sold more than hundred thousand plants

Would this be an assumption as well ?

I think it is a necessary assumption but it just seems to be an inference to me ( I understand that in CR arguments, inferences questions will not have conclusions) but if option A has said what i just said above, i would immediately -- just say -- that is not really an assumption, it seems almost like an inference



jabhatta2 - Don't get lost in terminology. The statement you mention will be an assumption because you need it to be true for the conclusion to hold.

The question will tell you what it is asking for.

A question that asks for a conclusion will not have a conclusion in the argument. You need to find what will be true as per given premises.
A question that asks for an assumption will certainly have a conclusion in the argument. You need to find what must be true for the conclusion to hold.

Note that both conclusion and assumption need to be true as per the given argument. The role they play in the argument depends on what is given in the argument.
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Thanks GMAT Ninja!

Let (A) not be true -> The biggest nursery in NA sells 10 or fewer varieties.

Now, let the biggest nursery sell 8 varieties -> jackmanii can't be the most popular anymore with 10% sales volume share.

It can, however, still be that jackmanii is the most popular plant among gardeners in NA.

If (A) is true or not, it doesn't help the argument. What (A) does is it best explains the flaw the person who made the statement made.

Where did I go wrong? I can't see the necessity for (A) to be true for the argument to hold up, because it doesn't make a difference if (A) is true or not as argued above.

Thanks

The statement in red is where you went wrong. Popularity in this argument is defined by sales. And if you buy a plant with the intention of growing it, by definition, you're a gardener! So the most popular plant among gardeners is the one with the most sales.

If there were 8 varieties of plant, the one that accounts for 10% of the sales can't be the one with the most sales. (If sales were distributed equally, each plant would account for 12.5% of sales.)

Put another way, if there were exactly 10 varieties of plant, and sales were distributed equally, each plant would account for 10% of sales. So there must be more than 10 varieties of plant for that 10% figure to be the highest, meaning (A) must be true.

I hope that clears things up!
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What’s the big deal with 10%? The author must believe that no other clematis vine sold more than 10%. There could be a vine that constituted more the 10% of the sales.
- Smaller nurseries might overshadow the largest nursery’s sales.
- Does overall sales indicate popularity among gardeners? Maybe architects order plants for landscaping without inputs from gardeners.[/list]

There could be additional gaps in the argument. I came up with these.
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C. Some of the jackmanii sold by the nursery are sold to gardeners outside North America
Incorrect. What impact does this answer choice have on the argument? The conclusion of the argument is that that the belief that jackmanii is the most popular clematis vine among gardeners in North America is correct. If some of the jackmanii sold by the nursery are sold to gardeners outside North America, my belief in the conclusion reduces. This answer choice weakens the argument, thus cannot be an assumption.

We can also evaluate this answer choice by checking whether it is necessary for the argument. What if none of the jackmanii sold by the nursery is sold to gardeners outside North America (negation)? In that case, our belief in the argument goes up. The negation of the statement supports the argument instead of breaking it down. Thus, this answer choice is incorrect.

I find that many people reject this answer on the basis of the word ‘some’.

Let’s replace the word ‘some’ with the word ‘most’.

Most of the jackmanii sold by the nursery are sold to gardeners outside North America.

Does this change make this answer choice correct?

If most jackmanii sold by the nursery are exported outside NA, the argument gets weakened. We would then believe less in the point that jackmanii is the most popular clematis vine in NA.

If a statement weakens the argument, it can’t be an assumption. The author would not have assumed something that weakens the argument.

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E. For all nurseries in North America that specialize in clematis, at least 10% of the clematis plants they sell are jackmanii.[/color]
Incorrect. Tricky one. This answer choice does strengthen the argument. If for all clematis-specializing-nurseries, at least 10% of the clematis plants sold are jackmanii, I certainly start to believe more that jackmanii is the most popular clematis vine variety among gardeners in North America.

Is the statement necessary though?
Is it absolutely necessary for the argument that all ‘specialist’ nurseries sell such a proportion of jackmanii?
What if even one nursery (perhaps a small one) sells a smaller proportion of jackmanii than 10% (negation)? Does the argument break down then? No, it doesn’t. The argument still makes sense even if few specialist nurseries sell less than 10% jackmanii.]


What a clear explanation, thanks AnishPassi.
I would also like to thank other experts such as GMATNinja and avigutman for their posts.

The reason why the option (A) is correct has been fully elaborated by experts, so I want to focus on the option (C) and (E)-- they were tempting and confusing to me when I practiced this question.

There is a gap in logic in the original passage: we cannot be sure whether the sales of the largest nursery in NA is representative of the overall sales in NA, and we even do not know whether the customers buying Jackmanii at the largest nursery are gardeners in NA. Surely, it is possible that the nursery's most customers are gardeners in NA, but it is also possible that the nursery concentrates on export business and most of its clients are foreigners.

This question would be much easier if it asked us to weaken the argument--I already came up with two pieces of evidence destroying the link between the premise and the conclusion. But unfortunately, this is an assumption question.

Let's check the option (C):

c.some of the jackmanii sold by the nursery are sold to gardeners outside North America

This points out a hole in the premise (sales of the nursery) and the conclusion (the preference of gardeners in NA), so it looks quite "relevant" at the first glance. It actually tempted me as I felt that we do need an assumption addressing who the customers are. But later I realize that the assumption we need is "Not all of the jackmanni sold by the nursery are sold to gardeners outside NA" instead of the option (C). If the assumption in boldface is negated, it will destroy the argument--since all the nursery's jackmanni are sold to foreign gardeners, how well the variety is sold or whether it is the one with the best sales among all varieties at the largest nursery is irrelevant to whether gardeners in NA loves the variety the most.

As some experts have pointed out, the negation of the option (C) is "none of the jackmanii are sold to gardeners outside NA," which actually strengthens the argument. That is not what a proper assumption does--a negated assumption should wreck the argument.

And let's check the option (E):

e.For all nurseries in North America that specialize in clematis, at least 10% of the clematis plants they sell are jackmanii.

At the first glance, this option seems highly "relevant" to the argument--it and the conclusion look like twins! The conclusion says that the sales of jackmanii at the largest nursery makes up 10 percent of all sales of clematis plants, and the option (E) adds that the sales of jackmanii at all nurseries in NA that specialize in clematis plant also account for at least 10 percent.

I felt that it kinds of strengthens the argument, but (1) this is not a strengthener question; (2) it still does not address the importance of 10 percent--what is the link between 10 percent and "the most popular variety"? (3) after negated, the option (E) does not wreck the argument. Perhaps, in one of the nurseries that specialize in clematis, the sales of jackmanii is less than 10 percent, but so what? Maybe the nursery plants more than 20 varieties of clematis plant, and the sales of jackmanii makes up 9 percent, which is still higher than others. Or, jackmanii is less popular than another variety in one nursery but it is the most popular variety in most nurseries.

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e.For all nurseries in North America that specialize in clematis, at least 10% of the clematis plants they sell are jackmanii.

This option kinds of directly strengthens the argument, but (1) this is not a strengthener question; (2) it still does not address why 10 percent is a percentage high enough to indicate that the variety with this market share is the most popular variety; (3) after negated, it does not wreck the argument--maybe in few of the nurseries that specialize in clematis in NA, the sales of jackmanii is less than 10 percent, but so what? Maybe, those nurseries plant more than 20 varieties of clematis plant, and jackmanii with nine percent is still the one with the highest market share. Or maybe, most nurseries that specialize in clematis still report that jackmanii is the most popular variety.


Good points, GraceSCKao. And, I’m glad you liked my solution :) Thank you.

One thing sticks out in your explanation for answer choice E.
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(2) it still does not address why 10 percent is a percentage high enough to indicate that the variety with this market share is the most popular variety


My question: So what?

P.s. I’m not entirely sure what you mean by the word “address” here.
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c.some of the jackmanii sold by the nursery are sold to gardeners outside North America

This points out a hole in the premise (sales in the nursery) and the conclusions (the preference of gardeners in NA), so it looks quite "relevant" at the first glance. It actually tempted me as I felt that we do need an assumption addressing who the customers are.

e.For all nurseries in North America that specialize in clematis, at least 10% of the clematis plants they sell are jackmanii.

This option kinds of directly strengthens the argument, but (1) this is not a strengthener question; (2) it still does not address why 10 percent is a percentage high enough to indicate that the variety with this market share is the most popular variety; (3) after negated, it does not wreck the argument--maybe in few of the nurseries that specialize in clematis in NA, the sales of jackmanii is less than 10 percent, but so what? Maybe, those nurseries plant more than 20 varieties of clematis plant, and jackmanii with nine percent is still the one with the highest market share. Or maybe, most nurseries that specialize in clematis still report that jackmanii is the most popular variety.


Hi GraceSCKao, good analysis! One thing that really helps me on this question type is constantly asking myself, as I read each answer choice, "is this really NECESSARY?" "do I really absolutely require this to be true in order for the argument to be a sensible argument?"
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Sir - Long time no see!

How do you differentiate quantitively between the word: "Apparently" and "Definitely"?

Is it like "Definitely" = 100% & "Apparently" = 0-100% (It could be true but not necessarily 100% true), most CR problems are more so like Math/Logical problems and thus I am raising this question, thanks!

Welcome back!

That's fair, though I'd define "apparently" as "seems to be true." So while you're right that the probability is somewhere between 0 and 100%, there's reason to believe that the statement in question is true. (If I write "Apparently, Tim can fly," I'm not saying the same thing as when I write, "Tim might be able to fly," though there's some uncertainty in both cases.)

So I'd worry less about quantifying the language than about reading it precisely.

I hope that helps!
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So can we reject E for this reason that choice E talks about "all nurseries" whereas the passage is only talking about "largest nursery" and we do not need info about all nurseries to conclude something about largest nursery?

Careful, Elite097, with using the word something. what you're saying here is very different from what I said here:
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I can definitely get behind a strategy to reject E after only reading the first three words: the author's reasoning doesn't require that anything be true of ALL nurseries. The glaring hole in the author's reasoning is that ten percent feels kinda small, and information about ALL nurseries, while possibly helpful, isn't going to be necessary.

This argument has a very nuanced, very specific line of reasoning, and with this particular reasoning I can't imagine why it would be necessary to know anything about all nurseries. I am not saying that, in general, one can eliminate an answer choice that appears to talk about something other than the argument's subject. If the argument claimed, for example, that the largest nursery has more than 50% of the market share, I can definitely imagine a necessary assumption about all nurseries.
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2. Hence I am saying that choice B is implying that only jackmanii is grown along with non clemantis plants so clearly there are no other clemantis plants as per B so how can we say Jackmanii is the most popular "among clematis" when as per B, there are no other clematis plants

Here is choice B
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The largest clematis nursery in North America sells nothing but clematis plants

I suspect that your comprehension of this sentence is off. If I understand you correctly, you're reading choice B as if it said:
The only type of clematis plant that the largest clematis nursery in North America sells is Jackmanii nothing but clematis plants
But, that's not what choice B says. It's saying that this nursery only sells clematis plants (some of which are Jackmanii, and some are other types of clematis plants).
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please help me, my understanding on this question totally wrong, and even after reading comments I am still not convinced.
Conclusion is belief is correct , now what is that belief; the variety of clematis vine that is most popular among gardeners in North America is jackmanii.
Here I thought we are talking about whole NA gardeners

premise to help on this will be based on single nursery, which is largest one. from here I started making assumptions .......
1) There must be other nurseries , which sell "varieties of clematis" and if they sell jackmanii as there also with highest percentage , then we can conclude the jackmanii is most popular one. I straight way discard A because it is talking about one nursery.

please help me understanding question first. What is part of the question which i wrongly understood.
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a.The nursery sells more than 10 different varieties of clematis ( RIGHT ANSWER : This is the only scenario in which 10 percent can become the largest possible percentage for anyone variety. Because say if there are only 10 varieties then the sales of each one of them can be 10% and if we decrease the percentage of anyone variety in this scenario by say 1% then that 1% will get added to some other variety thereby making it 11% and then that variety will become the variety with the largest sales numbers overtaking jackamanii.)
b.the largest clematis nursery in North America sells nothing but clematis plants ( WRONG ANSWER : This has nothing to do with the argument)
c.some of the jackmanii sold by the nursery are sold to gardeners outside North America ( WRONG ANSWER: This option is irrelevant to the argument.)
d.most North American gardeners grow clematis in their gardens ( WRONG ANSWER : This doesn’t affect the argument at hand)
e.For all nurseries in North America that specialize in clematis, at least 10% of the clematis plants they sell are jackmanii.( Wrong Answer : This option doesn’t talk about the size of the nursery.)
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Hi,
I have a confusion about this question.
The question says jackmanii is the most popular among gardeners. It doesn't say that the best selling plant of this largest nursery is jackmanii . Jackmani might be the most popular plant in the whole country but this particular nursery might be selling another flower more. So how do we know that sales share of Jackmani ,%10, is the largest in this nursery?What am I missing?
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But what about the other 90%? What if another variety of clematis accounts for MORE than 10% of the one million? In that case, jackmanii would not be the most popular variety at the nursery. However, if no other variety accounts for 10% (or more) of the one million, then jackmanii would be in fact be the most popular variety at the nursery.

Would that prove that jackmanii is the most popular variety in NA? Not necessarily. But if jackmanii is #1 at the largest nursery, that's certainly EVIDENCE that jackmanii is #1 in NA. Again, we are trying to conclude that the belief is APPARENTLY correct, not that the believe is DEFINITELY correct. As long as we have evidence that jackmanii is the most popular variety among NA gardeners, we're in good shape.



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(A) The nursery sells more than 10 different varieties of clematis
If the nursery sells 10 varieties or fewer, then there would HAVE to be another variety that accounts for more than 10% of the one million plants sold at the nursery. If that were true, then jackmanii could not be the most popular variety at the nursery. Thus, we would not have evidence that jackmanii is #1 in NA. Without choice (A), the argument falls apart.

Now, does choice (A) PROVE that jackmanii is #1 at the nursery? Not at all... even with 20 varieties, there could be another type that accounts for more than 10% of the million. That, of course, would ruin the argument.

Even if choice (A) is true, the argument may or may not be valid, but that's okay. In other words, choice (A) doesn't PROVE that the author's reasoning is sound. But without choice (A), the author's argument could not be valid. This is a required assumption, so keep (A).



Dear GMATNinja or GMATNinjaTwo,

#1 a big gap btw the premises and conclusion
GMATNinja wrote:
premises:
    The largest clematis nursery in NA sells one million clematis plants per year.
    Of the one million clematis plants sold per year by that nursery, ten percent are jackmanii.

conclusion: he gardener's belief--that jackmanii is the most popular variety of clematis vine among gardeners in North America (NA)--is apparently correct


Anyone think that this argument has a gap that generalizes (NA)from a special nursery (the largest nursery)
even as the premises above, it does not lead to the conclusion, a top sale in the largest nursery does not mean the most popular in NA (North America),
it is highly possible that the others nurseries expect the largest one sells one kind of clematis vines, say X, far more then the largest one sales jackmanii, the top sales.
Then X is much more popular than jackmanii,
see, we can weaken the most popular,
So it seems not so closely that lead to conclusion

One reason i haven't gotten A is correct.


#2what's assumption?
Seems i haven't gotten what assumption.

IMO, assumption is one unstated premise, which the author believes conclusion MUST BE TRUE if based the assumption.

That why i did not understand a part of your explanation :
Even if choice (A) is true, the argument may or may not be valid, but that's okay. In other words, choice (A) doesn't PROVE that the author's reasoning is sound.

if the argument is invalid, does it still be an assumption, seems it does NOT consist with the definition of assumption.

another reason i did not get A is correct.

#3 what's required assumption
Is required assumption a segment of assumption. if is, then required assumption has the character, the conclusion MUST BE TRUE based on required assumption, right?

#4 difference bwt "apparently" and "definitely"
As you mentioned, The conclusion would be substantially different if we were to replace "apparently" with "definitely".
Would you please explain further?
you emphase "PROVE" , a word leading me to consider it a strengthen question, I think i must miss something, would you please help?

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GMATNinja wrote:
But what about the other 90%? What if another variety of clematis accounts for MORE than 10% of the one million? In that case, jackmanii would not be the most popular variety at the nursery. However, if no other variety accounts for 10% (or more) of the one million, then jackmanii would be in fact be the most popular variety at the nursery.

Would that prove that jackmanii is the most popular variety in NA? Not necessarily. But if jackmanii is #1 at the largest nursery, that's certainly EVIDENCE that jackmanii is #1 in NA. Again, we are trying to conclude that the belief is APPARENTLY correct, not that the believe is DEFINITELY correct. As long as we have evidence that jackmanii is the most popular variety among NA gardeners, we're in good shape.



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(A) The nursery sells more than 10 different varieties of clematis
If the nursery sells 10 varieties or fewer, then there would HAVE to be another variety that accounts for more than 10% of the one million plants sold at the nursery. If that were true, then jackmanii could not be the most popular variety at the nursery. Thus, we would not have evidence that jackmanii is #1 in NA. Without choice (A), the argument falls apart.

Now, does choice (A) PROVE that jackmanii is #1 at the nursery? Not at all... even with 20 varieties, there could be another type that accounts for more than 10% of the million. That, of course, would ruin the argument.

Even if choice (A) is true, the argument may or may not be valid, but that's okay. In other words, choice (A) doesn't PROVE that the author's reasoning is sound. But without choice (A), the author's argument could not be valid. This is a required assumption, so keep (A).



Dear GMATNinja or GMATNinjaTwo,

#1 a big gap btw the premises and conclusion
GMATNinja wrote:
premises:
    The largest clematis nursery in NA sells one million clematis plants per year.
    Of the one million clematis plants sold per year by that nursery, ten percent are jackmanii.

conclusion: he gardener's belief--that jackmanii is the most popular variety of clematis vine among gardeners in North America (NA)--is apparently correct


Anyone think that this argument has a gap that generalizes (NA)from a special nursery (the largest nursery)
even as the premises above, it does not lead to the conclusion, a top sale in the largest nursery does not mean the most popular in NA (North America),
it is highly possible that the others nurseries expect the largest one sells one kind of clematis vines, say X, far more then the largest one sales jackmanii, the top sales.
Then X is much more popular than jackmanii,
see, we can weaken the most popular,
So it seems not so closely that lead to conclusion

One reason i haven't gotten A is correct.


#2what's assumption?
Seems i haven't gotten what assumption.

IMO, assumption is one unstated premise, which the author believes conclusion MUST BE TRUE if based the assumption.

That why i did not understand a part of your explanation :
Even if choice (A) is true, the argument may or may not be valid, but that's okay. In other words, choice (A) doesn't PROVE that the author's reasoning is sound.

if the argument is invalid, does it still be an assumption, seems it does NOT consist with the definition of assumption.

another reason i did not get A is correct.

#3 what's required assumption
Is required assumption a segment of assumption. if is, then required assumption has the character, the conclusion MUST BE TRUE based on required assumption, right?

#4 difference bwt "apparently" and "definitely"
As you mentioned, The conclusion would be substantially different if we were to replace "apparently" with "definitely".
Would you please explain further?
you emphase "PROVE" , a word leading me to consider it a strengthen question, I think i must miss something, would you please help?

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The author is simply arguing that there is evidence suggesting that jackmanii is #1 in NA. Yes, it is possible that, despite this evidence, jackmanii is not #1. We don't care about that possibility. As long as jackmanii is #1 at the nursery, then we have evidence that it is #1 in NA. In other words, in that case, jackmanii is apparently #1 in NA. This absolutely does not prove that jackmanii is #1, but the author is not trying to prove anything.

Consider the following example:

  • Most Americans believe that the Big Mac is the most popular sandwich at McDonalds.
  • This belief is apparently correct. A recent study looked at sales of the 1,000 highest-revenue-generating McDonalds in the US. The number of Big Macs sold at those restaurants was twice as large as the number of any other sandwich sold.

Does that PROVE that Big Macs are #1 in the US? Nope. But the argument is not concerned with proving anything. The argument simply says that the evidence supports the belief of most Americans. So even if Big Macs are NOT #1, the logic of this argument is not flawed. Similarly, the argument in the passage is not invalid at all, regardless of whether clematis is actually #1.

I hope that helps!
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By using the negation technique, if we negate option (C) Some of the jackmanii sold by the nursery are sold to gardeners outside North America ..
Negation : Most of the jackmanii sold by the nursery are sold to gardeners outside North America .. doesnt this break the conclusion of the argument that jackmanii is the most popular among gardners in NA?
Since most plants are being sold outside NA, then gardeners in NA aren't buying it.
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VeritasKarishma these are the kinda of CR(s) i am not able to solve within time constraints. How should you go about thought process for such problems..?
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The conclusion of this passage is that the gardener's belief--that jackmanii is the most popular variety of clematis vine among gardeners in North America (NA)--is apparently correct. The word "apparently" is very important here. The conclusion would be substantially different if we were to replace "apparently" with "definitely".

More on that in a moment... but first, why does the author conclude that the belief is apparently correct?

  • The largest clematis nursery in NA sells one million clematis plants per year.
  • Of the one million clematis plants sold per year by that nursery, ten percent are jackmanii.

A substantial chunk of the clematis plants sold at the largest nursery are jackmanii. The author reasons that jackmanii's popularity at the largest nursery is a good indicator of its popularity among NA gardeners.

But what about the other 90%? What if another variety of clematis accounts for MORE than 10% of the one million? In that case, jackmanii would not be the most popular variety at the nursery. However, if no other variety accounts for 10% (or more) of the one million, then jackmanii would be in fact be the most popular variety at the nursery.

Would that prove that jackmanii is the most popular variety in NA? Not necessarily. But if jackmanii is #1 at the largest nursery, that's certainly EVIDENCE that jackmanii is #1 in NA. Again, we are trying to conclude that the belief is APPARENTLY correct, not that the believe is DEFINITELY correct. As long as we have evidence that jackmanii is the most popular variety among NA gardeners, we're in good shape.

With that in mind, let's look at the answer choices:

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(A) The nursery sells more than 10 different varieties of clematis

If the nursery sells 10 varieties or fewer, then there would HAVE to be another variety that accounts for more than 10% of the one million plants sold at the nursery. If that were true, then jackmanii could not be the most popular variety at the nursery. Thus, we would not have evidence that jackmanii is #1 in NA. Without choice (A), the argument falls apart.

Now, does choice (A) PROVE that jackmanii is #1 at the nursery? Not at all... even with 20 varieties, there could be another type that accounts for more than 10% of the million. That, of course, would ruin the argument.

Even if choice (A) is true, the argument may or may not be valid, but that's okay. In other words, choice (A) doesn't PROVE that the author's reasoning is sound. But without choice (A), the author's argument could not be valid. This is a required assumption, so keep (A).

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(B) The largest clematis nursery in North America sells nothing but clematis plants

The nursery could sell many other types of plants. As long as jackmanii is the most popularity variety of clematis plant sold at the nursery, then the author's reasoning holds up. This is not a required assumption, so eliminate (B).

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(C) Some of the jackmanii sold by the nursery are sold to gardeners outside North America

If a substantial portion of jackmanii sales were to gardeners outside of NA, then we might have a problem. That might suggest that jackmanii's popularity at the nursery is NOT a good indicator of jackmanii's popularity among NA gardeners.

Choice (C) only says that SOME of the jackmanii are sold to gardeners outside of NA. In that case, the jackmanii sales at the nursery are probably a good indicator of its popularity among NA gardeners.

Does that make (C) a REQUIRED assumption? If (C) were not true and the nursery ONLY sold jackmanii to gardeners within NA, then that would probably further strengthen the argument. That would give us even more reason to believe that the sales at the nursery are a good indicator of NA popularity. Choice (C) is not a required assumption, so eliminate (C).

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(D) Most North American gardeners grow clematis in their gardens

It doesn't matter whether clematis is a popular plant in general. The belief is that jackmanii is the most popular variety OF clematis. Even if only a tiny fraction of NA gardeners grow clematis, jackmanii could still be the most popular variety among those gardeners who DO grow clematis. Eliminate (D).

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(E) For all nurseries in North America that specialize in clematis, at least 10% of the clematis plants they sell are jackmanii.

This is admittedly a little bit tempting: sure, it would strengthen the argument. But this isn't a strengthen question: we need to know whether this is NECESSARY to draw the conclusion.

And it isn't necessary: even if (E) is NOT true -- for example, if jackmanii accounts for less than 10% of clematis plants at a few nurseries -- it's still possible that jackmanii is the most popular. And since (E) isn't necessary, it's not the correct answer.

(A) is the best answer.


How the individual vine percentage figure accounts to less than 10℅ when for the case of say 11 vines are distributed like 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,81,10(jackmanii) percent..how can this case be dealt with? In this case we have the vine with 82℅ as winner...where am I missing out?
When there are 10 or less than 10 varieties,jackmanii cannot be the winner as other vines will have a starting percentage of 10 ℅ each,any change in distribution will make another vine the majority. Whereas, over 10 varieties may or may not make another vine a majority.
Do we need this
assumption --> conclusion verification in assumtion questions because this approach seem to fail here to prove 'A' as the answer...Please clear my doubt.

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a.The nursery sells more than 10 different varieties of clematis


From negation, I was able to get to A.
However, this does not have to necessarily be true, does it? There can be 9 different varieties and still the conclusion will hold true.
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