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Monroe, despite his generally poor appetite, thoroughly enjoyed the three meals he ate at the Tip-Top Restaurant, but, unfortunately, after each meal he became ill. The first time he ate an extra-large sausage pizza with a side order of hot pepper; the second time he took full advantage of the all-you-can-eat fried shrimp and hot peppers special; and the third time he had two of Tip-Top’s giant meatball sandwiches with hot peppers. Since the only food all three meals had in common was the hot peppers. Monroe concludes that it is solely due to Tip-Top’s hot peppers that he became ill.

If both Monroe’s conclusion and the evidence on which he bases it are correct, they would provide the strongest support for which one of the following?


(A) Monroe can eat any of Tip-Top’s daily all-you-can-eat specials without becoming ill as long as the special does not include the hot peppers.

(B) If, at his third meal at Tip-Top, Monroe had chosen to eat the baked chicken with hot peppers, he would have become ill after that meal.

(C) If the next time Monroe eats one of Tip-Top’s extra-large sausage pizzas he does not have a side order of hot peppers, he will not become ill after his meal.

(D) Before eating Tip-Top’s fried shrimp with hot peppers special, Monroe had eaten fried shrimp without suffering any ill effects.

(E) The only place Monroe has eaten hot peppers has been at Tip-Top.


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OA is B.

C is too illogical because "If the next time Monroe eats one of Tip-Top’s extra-large sausage pizzas he does not have a side order of hot peppers, he will not become ill after his meal." - there could have other reason too such as pizza was not fresh and he became ill. - so can not hold

I selected A because I failed to understand the twist in the answer choice: "Monroe can eat any of Tip-Top’s daily all-you-can-eat specials without becoming ill as long as the special does not include the hot peppers."
- It says pretty same thing as C does

whereas B is clear: he can take anything A,B or C but, no pepper means no ill.
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To understand why C is the answer and not B, understand the scope of the conclusion. The conclusion says that the sole reason Monroe got sick in these three instances is due to hot peppers. The conclusion does not imply that Monroe will get sick whenever he eats hot peppers.

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B does not refer to a third cause. It simply says that had he eaten baked chicken with hot peppers at his third meal (instead of the giant meatball sandwiches) he would have become ill (due to hot peppers).

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Also, we can not say that If he does not eat hot peppers, he will not get ill as answer C suggests. this is logically incorrect

I searched for the OA for this question on google and I got B.
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Khalid wrote: Also, we can not say that If he does not eat hot peppers, he will not get ill as answer C suggests. this is logically incorrect


Khalid, there is a lot of confusion about cause and effect and not cause and no effect rule. To keep things simple, lets confine our discussion to this question.

In this question, the conclusion says

Monroe concludes that it is solely due to Tip-Top's hot peppers that he became ill. Note the use of the word "solely". The conclusion states the only reason that Monroe became ill when she ate those 3 meals is because she ate hot peppers. Since the sole reason she became ill was due to hot peppers, it can be inferred that provided everything else remains same, Monroe will not get ill if she does not it hot peppers.

choice C reproduces one of the meals (extra-large sausage pizzas) without the side of hot peppers he should not become ill. Since the question stem asks you to assume that the conclusion and the evidence presented in the argument is true, I believe that the argument does provide very strong support for the same.

Had the conclusion not stated "solely" it would have been a different story. Let me know if you have any questions regarding this.
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(A) Monroe can eat any of Tip-Top's daily all-you-can-eat specials without becoming ill as long as the special does not include the hot peppers. => wrong, Monroe have poor appetite
(B) If, at his third meal at Tip-Top, Monroe had chosen to eat the baked chicken with hot peppers, he would have become ill after that meal. => not mention baked chicken. out of scope. Maybe have another cause for his ill. Ex: chicken flu.
(C) If the next time Monroe eats one of Tip-Top's extra-large sausage pizzas he does not have a side order of hot peppers, he will not become ill after this meal. => yes, in scope of sentence
(D) Before eating Tip-Top's fried shrimp with hot pepper special, Monroe had eaten fried shrimp without suffering any side effects. => same reason as B
(E) The only place Monroe has eaten hot peppers has been at Tip-Top. => too extreme.
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Monroe, despite his generally poor appetite, thoroughly enjoyed the three meals he ate at the Tip-Top Restaurant, but, unfortunately, after each meal he became ill. The first time he ate an extra-large sausage pizza with a side order of hot pepper; the second time he took full advantage of the all-you-can-eat fried shrimp and hot peppers special; and the third time he had two of Tip-Top’s giant meatball sandwiches with hot peppers. Since the only food all three meals had in common was the hot peppers. Monroe concludes that it is solely due to Tip-Top’s hot peppers that he became ill.

If both Monroe’s conclusion and the evidence on which he bases it are correct, they would provide the strongest support for which one of the following? :?:

(A) Monroe can eat any of Tip-Top’s daily all-you-can-eat specials without becoming ill as long as the special does not include the hot peppers.
(B) If, at his third meal at Tip-Top, Monroe had chosen to eat the baked chicken with hot peppers, he would have become ill after that meal.
(C) If the next time Monroe eats one of Tip-Top’s extra-large sausage pizzas he does not have a side order of hot peppers, he will not become ill after his meal.
(D) Before eating Tip-Top’s fried shrimp with hot peppers special, Monroe had eaten fried shrimp without suffering any ill effects.
(E) The only place Monroe has eaten hot peppers has been at Tip-Top.


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my analysis is as followed
monroe conclusion it is solely due to Tip-Top’s hot peppers that he became ill
evidences 3 meals at the tips tops different foods only thing in common hot peper
after each meal he got sick


A strong support it show that the hot pepper is the critical factor
b slight support show that no matter the meal if it contains hotpepper he get sick
if P then Q
c NO p NOT Q and this is not valid
this is an hypothesis
d does not show anything neutral sowhat type as it does not state the presence of hot pepper
e weaken the conclusion

b is better because it shows a clear cause and effect relationship between having hotpepper and getting sick
while a give the ideas that that there can be something wrong with Tip-Top’s daily all-you-can-eat specials

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It would be great if you can share your analysis on this question? OA given is B but @e-gmat says it should be C

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It would be great if you can share your analysis on this question? OA given is B but @e-gmat says it should be C

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(C) If the next time Monroe eats one of Tip-Top's extra-large sausage pizzas he does not have a side order of hot peppers, he will not become ill after this meal.

Because we are told that Monroe's conclusion is correct, we know that it is solely due to Tip-Top's hot peppers that he became ill. Notice that the verb "became" is in the past tense. We know that the hot peppers made him ill during each of the three visits described in the passage. However, that does not prove that he will not become ill even if he doesn't eat hot peppers next time. Maybe next time he eats sausage pizza, the chef will accidentally under-cook the sausage and, as a result, Monroe will get a foodborne illness from the sausage.
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Monroe, despite his generally poor appetite, thoroughly enjoyed the three meals he ate at the Tip-Top Restaurant, but, unfortunately, after each meal he became ill. The first time he ate an extra-large sausage pizza with a side order of hot pepper; the second time he took full advantage of the all-you-can-eat fried shrimp and hot peppers special; and the third time he had two of Tip-Top’s giant meatball sandwiches with hot peppers. Since the only food all three meals had in common was the hot peppers. Monroe concludes that it is solely due to Tip-Top’s hot peppers that he became ill.

If both Monroe’s conclusion and the evidence on which he bases it are correct, they would provide the strongest support for which one of the following?

(A) Monroe can eat any of Tip-Top’s daily all-you-can-eat specials without becoming ill as long as the special does not include the hot peppers.

(B) If, at his third meal at Tip-Top, Monroe had chosen to eat the baked chicken with hot peppers, he would have become ill after that meal.

(C) If the next time Monroe eats one of Tip-Top’s extra-large sausage pizzas he does not have a side order of hot peppers, he will not become ill after his meal.

(D) Before eating Tip-Top’s fried shrimp with hot peppers special, Monroe had eaten fried shrimp without suffering any ill effects.

(E) The only place Monroe has eaten hot peppers has been at Tip-Top.

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Well, we know he ate three separate meals with hot peppers, and, importantly, "after each meal he became ill" (italics added for emphasis). Then, at the end, Monroe concludes that the peppers were the sole culprit.

The interesting thing is that we are told in the question stem that "both Monroe's conclusion and the evidence on which he bases it are correct," which means that we now have to accept that Monroe was right about the hot peppers being the sole cause of him becoming ill after the three meals in question.

(A): Yes, this is far too broad, and it also looks into possible future meals, which haven't been addressed. We don't know anything about the daily specials, and it is possible that some other element—one that Monroe has yet to encounter—might make him sick, or that at future meals different factors might be in play.

(B): "I eliminated B because it didn't account for the size of the food that Monroe was eating." — as you've probably figured out now, the fact that this didn't address the amount of food eaten isn't a problem (since we are ignoring that element per the question stem). Instead, because this answer specifies that Monroe would've eaten hot peppers with this meal (which was a substitute for one of the three meals we already know about, where the hot peppers were indeed what was making him sick), we can ascertain that he would have for sure become sick after this meal. Thus, this answer choice is strongly supported by the information in the stimulus, and is correct.

(C): This answer choice has some similarities to (A). First, this is a forward-looking answer that talks about the next time, and at that point things could be entirely different. What we know about is what happened at the three meals discussed in the stimulus, and what happens thereafter is not bound by the same rules or conclusions. By comparison, look at answer choice (B), which quite specifically substitutes the food used in one of the three named meals in the stimulus.

So, while we knwo that when Monroe ate hot peppers at those meals and that caused him to become sick, for a future meal we can't guarantee what will happen, or that some other factor won't cause him to be sick.

Answer : B
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Monroe, despite his generally poor appetite, thoroughly enjoyed the three meals he ate at the Tip-Top Restaurant, but, unfortunately, after each meal he became ill. The first time he ate an extra-large sausage pizza with a side order of hot pepper; the second time he took full advantage of the all-you-can-eat fried shrimp and hot peppers special; and the third time he had two of Tip-Top’s giant meatball sandwiches with hot peppers. Since the only food all three meals had in common was the hot peppers. Monroe concludes that it is solely due to Tip-Top’s hot peppers that he became ill.

If both Monroe’s conclusion and the evidence on which he bases it are correct, they would provide the strongest support for which one of the following?

(A) Monroe can eat any of Tip-Top’s daily all-you-can-eat specials without becoming ill as long as the special does not include the hot peppers.
--We don't know about ANY special. We just know that shrimp special won't hurt him
(B) If, at his third meal at Tip-Top, Monroe had chosen to eat the baked chicken with hot peppers, he would have become ill after that meal.
--Correct. The argument is about hot pepper making him ill DEFINITELY.
(C) If the next time Monroe eats one of Tip-Top’s extra-large sausage pizzas he does not have a side order of hot peppers, he will not become ill after his meal.
--We can't say. Maybe some other ingredient might make him ill
(D) Before eating Tip-Top’s fried shrimp with hot peppers special, Monroe had eaten fried shrimp without suffering any ill effects.
--Before eating? out of scope
(E) The only place Monroe has eaten hot peppers has been at Tip-Top.
--Out of scope
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In my case, IMO is B

(A) Monroe can eat any of Tip-Top???s daily all-you-can-eat specials without becoming ill as long as the special does not include the hot peppers.
-> We just know about the combination of hot pepper and three menus.
There is a possibility that there is some menu, which can make Monroe ill.

(B) If, at his third meal at Tip-Top, Monroe had chosen to eat the baked chicken with hot peppers, he would have become ill after that meal.
-> There is a sentence that conclusion is correct. Then we can assure that hot pepper makes Monroe ill.
So This passage is correct.

(C) If the next time Monroe eats one of Tip-Top???s extra-large sausage pizzas he does not have a side order of hot peppers, he will not become ill after his meal.
-> Monroe must be ill because of 'Hot pepper'

(D) Before eating Tip-Top???s fried shrimp with hot peppers special, Monroe had eaten fried shrimp without suffering any ill effects.
-> Monroe must be ill because of 'Hot pepper'

(E) The only place Monroe has eaten hot peppers has been at Tip-Top.
-> Out of scope. Place is not important.
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