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Re: If a and b are integers, is a + b + 3 an odd integer? [#permalink]
If a and b are integers, is \(a + b + 3\) an odd integer?

In order to find \(a + b + 3\) is ODD, we need to find.

ODD + ODD + 3 = ODD

EVEN + EVEN + 3 = ODD


Which means, if we are able to confirm if a & b both are ODD or if a & b both are EVEN we should be able to answer the question.

(1) ab is an odd integer

ab = ODD

This means that a & b both are ODD

As per above this information should be sufficient to prove \(a + b + 3\) is ODD as ODD + ODD + 3 = ODD

Hence, Eq. (1) =====> is SUFFICIENT

(2) a − b is an even integer

a - b is EVEN

This is only possible if

a & b are both ODD

a & b are both EVEN

As this is sufficient to answer the question \(a + b + 3\) is ODD

Hence, Eq. (2) =====> is SUFFICIENT

Hence, Answer is D
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Given that a and b are both integers, so each of them must be either even or odd. a+b+3 will be odd when (a+b) is even.

Statement 1. product of a & b is odd, which is only possible when both a & b are odd. And if both a & b are odd, then (a+b) is even. So we know. Sufficient.

Statement 2. a-b is even, this will happen either when
both a & b are even, in which case (a+b) will also be even
or when both a & b are odd, in which case too (a+b) will be even.

a+b is even in any case, so we know. Sufficient.

Each statement alone is sufficient. Hence D answer
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If a and b are integers, is a + b + 3 an odd integer?

(1) ab is an odd integer.
(2) a − b is an even integer.


for a+b+3 to be odd a+b should be even

1) if ab is an odd integer then a and b are individually odd, so a+b= odd+odd=Even : sufficient .
2)a- b is an even integer, so a and b are both even or both odd. In either cases the sum a+b is even : sufficient.
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Bunuel wrote:
If a and b are integers, is a + b + 3 an odd integer?

(1) ab is an odd integer.
(2) a − b is an even integer.

We need to determine whether a + b + 3 is odd, or in other words, whether a + b is even.

Statement One Alone:

ab is an odd integer.

Because ab is odd, we know that a and b must both be odd, and since odd + odd = even, a + b is even. Statement one alone is sufficient to answer the question.

Statement Two Alone:

a - b is an even integer.

Since a - b is even, a + b is also even. Statement two alone is sufficient.

Answer: D
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While I am clear on the even and odd concept ,for this question given that they are integers- do we ignore about them being positive or negative integers?
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While I am clear on the even and odd concept ,for this question given that they are integers- do we ignore about them being positive or negative integers?


a and b could be negative even/odd integers but this does not change the answer. Is it what you were asking?
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Re: If a and b are integers, is a + b + 3 an odd integer? [#permalink]
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deeptijp wrote:
While I am clear on the even and odd concept ,for this question given that they are integers- do we ignore about them being positive or negative integers?


a and b could be negative even/odd integers but this does not change the answer. Is it what you were asking?


yes,as I was a bit doubtful when solving the question that when do we consider the signs as no one posted solution considering signs.
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Re: If a and b are integers, is a + b + 3 an odd integer? [#permalink]
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Given that a and b are both integers, so each of them must be either even or odd. a+b+3 will be odd when (a+b) is even.

Statement 1. product of a & b is odd, which is only possible when both a & b are odd. And if both a & b are odd, then (a+b) is even. So we know. Sufficient.

Statement 2. a-b is even, this will happen either when
both a & b are even, in which case (a+b) will also be even
or when both a & b are odd, in which case too (a+b) will be even.

a+b is even in any case, so we know. Sufficient.

Each statement alone is sufficient. Hence D answer


I landed with same ans using identical approach of dissecting Q stem before moving to ans choices.
I just took few additional secs for checking for St 2 by taking random nos. Did you carry above step mentally?
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Re: If a and b are integers, is a + b + 3 an odd integer? [#permalink]
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Given that a and b are both integers, so each of them must be either even or odd. a+b+3 will be odd when (a+b) is even.

Statement 1. product of a & b is odd, which is only possible when both a & b are odd. And if both a & b are odd, then (a+b) is even. So we know. Sufficient.

Statement 2. a-b is even, this will happen either when
both a & b are even, in which case (a+b) will also be even
or when both a & b are odd, in which case too (a+b) will be even.

a+b is even in any case, so we know. Sufficient.

Each statement alone is sufficient. Hence D answer


I landed with same ans using identical approach of dissecting Q stem before moving to ans choices.
I just took few additional secs for checking for St 2 by taking random nos. Did you carry above step mentally?


On adding or subtracting two integers, the nature of resulting value will not change I.e if on subtracting two integers the resulting value is Even then on adding the same numbers the resulting value will be Even. If you thought about this then the question is very simple and you might not need to test values.
So if a=5 and b=3, then a-b=2 and a+b=8 both are Even

Similarly if both are Even then result will obviously be Even

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amanvermagmat niks18

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Given that a and b are both integers, so each of them must be either even or odd. a+b+3 will be odd when (a+b) is even.

Statement 1. product of a & b is odd, which is only possible when both a & b are odd. And if both a & b are odd, then (a+b) is even. So we know. Sufficient.

Statement 2. a-b is even, this will happen either when
both a & b are even, in which case (a+b) will also be even
or when both a & b are odd, in which case too (a+b) will be even.

a+b is even in any case, so we know. Sufficient.

Each statement alone is sufficient. Hence D answer


I landed with same ans using identical approach of dissecting Q stem before moving to ans choices.
I just took few additional secs for checking for St 2 by taking random nos. Did you carry above step mentally?


Hi

Yes, now I dont need to do any calculation mentally regarding even/odd in these kind of questions - because the basic rules regarding addition/subtraction/multiplication of even/odd are drilled in my head.
I suggest that you too look at these rules again (from number theory) here (in case you think you need to improve on this):

https://gmatclub.com/forum/math-number- ... 88376.html

And then practice with as many values as you can, till it becomes easy and natural to you. Good luck!
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If a and b are integers, is a + b + 3 an odd integer? [#permalink]
Hi,
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Statement 1 indicates both are odd whereas statement 2 indicates both are even.

Is it possible that a and b both are of different type of no. (odd and even) together to satisfy the single condition, I.e, a+b+3=odd.

Kindly throw some lights.

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deeptijp wrote:
While I am clear on the even and odd concept ,for this question given that they are integers- do we ignore about them being positive or negative integers?


a and b could be negative even/odd integers but this does not change the answer. Is it what you were asking?
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Bunuel/scotttargettestprep/Veritaskarishma/chetan2u/Empowergmatrich

Statement 1 indicates both are odd whereas statement 2 indicates both are even.

Is it possible that a and b both are of different type of no. (odd and even) together to satisfy the single condition, I.e, a+b+3=odd.

Kindly throw some lights.



In statement two both, a and b can also be odd since odd - odd = even
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Re: If a and b are integers, is a + b + 3 an odd integer? [#permalink]
We need to determine whether a + b + 3 is odd or, in other words, whether a + b is even.

Statement One Alone:

ab is an odd integer.

Thus, a and b are both odd, and since odd + odd = even, a + b is even. Statement one alone is sufficient to answer the question.

Statement Two Alone:

a - b is an even integer.

Since a - b is even, a + b is also even. Statement two alone is sufficient.
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Bunuel wrote:
If a and b are integers, is a + b + 3 an odd integer?

(1) ab is an odd integer.
(2) a − b is an even integer.

We need to determine whether a + b + 3 is odd, or in other words, whether a + b is even.

Statement One Alone:

ab is an odd integer.

Because ab is odd, we know that a and b must both be odd, and since odd + odd = even, a + b is even. Statement one alone is sufficient to answer the question.

Statement Two Alone:

a - b is an even integer.

Since a - b is even, a + b is also even. Statement two alone is sufficient.

Answer: D


In statement 2 , if even -even is even and odd- odd is even , hence if a and b are even and if if a & B are odd , final result a+b+3 will change .The how it is sufficient?
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Bunuel wrote:
If a and b are integers, is a + b + 3 an odd integer?

(1) ab is an odd integer.
(2) a − b is an even integer.

We need to determine whether a + b + 3 is odd, or in other words, whether a + b is even.

Statement One Alone:

ab is an odd integer.

Because ab is odd, we know that a and b must both be odd, and since odd + odd = even, a + b is even. Statement one alone is sufficient to answer the question.

Statement Two Alone:

a - b is an even integer.

Since a - b is even, a + b is also even. Statement two alone is sufficient.

Answer: D


In statement 2 , if even -even is even and odd- odd is even , hence if a and b are even and if if a & B are odd , final result a+b+3 will change .The how it is sufficient?


In statement 2 , if even -even is even and odd- odd is even , hence if a and b are even and if if a & B are odd , final result a+b+3 will change .The how it is sufficient?

If a and b are even, then a + b is even. If a and b are odd, then again a + b is even. The question is asking for us to determine whether a + b + 3 is odd; since a + b is even, a + b + 3 will be odd in either case. That’s why the statement “a - b is even” is sufficient to determine whether a + b + 3 is odd.
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Re: If a and b are integers, is a + b + 3 an odd integer? [#permalink]
What if a+b+3 = 0 zero is not even or odd.
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What if a+b+3 = 0 zero is not even or odd.

'0' is even.
'0' is neither negative nor positive.

So taking a+b+3 = 0 is wrong.
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