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Many kitchens today are equipped with high-speed electrical gadgets, such as blenders and food processors, which are able to inflict as serious injuries as those caused by an industrial wood-planing machine.

(A) which are able to inflict as serious injuries as those
(B) which can inflict serious injuries such as those
(C) inflicting injuries as serious as that having been
(D) capable to inflict injuries as serious as that
(E) capable of inflicting injuries as serious as those



Here is official GMAC explanation:
The point of this sentence is the claim that common kitchen appliances can be as dangerous as an industrial wood-planing machine. It makes this point by comparing the injuries (plural) caused by blenders and food processors with those (also plural) caused by the wood-planing machine. An efficient way to make this comparison is to use the idiom capable of, an adjective phrase rather than a relative clause, after blenders and food processors.
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Hi! daagh,

I was confused between 'A' and 'D'. I am unable to see any mistake in 'A' as it says- blenders and food processors are able to inflict as serious injuries as those (injuries) caused by....... (as X as Y)

Could you please help shedding more light on the mistake in this option. Thanks
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I was confused between 'A' and 'D'. I am unable to see any mistake in 'A' as it says- blenders and food processors are able to inflict as serious injuries as those (injuries) caused by....... (as X as Y)
Could you please help shedding more light on the mistake in this option. Thanks


A is ALSO WRONG for the following reason :
A says: Many kitchens today are equipped with high-speed electrical gadgets, such as blenders and food processors, which are able to inflict as serious injuries as those caused by an industrial wood-planing machine.
----->the usage of "WHICH" is WRONG in A; "WHICH" has been used without COMMA in option A .The comma that you are seeing is for the following construction "such as blenders and food processors" AND NOT for "WHICH"

ALSO "ABLE TO" is WRONG in option A ---->it gives a sense that these "electrical gadgets" are doing this INTENTIONALLY !!
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This is a comparison between injuries caused by kitchen gadgets and wood planing machines. A says that the gadgets can cause those serious injuries as caused by the planing machines. Whereas E says that, the gadgets can cause many injuries including as the serious ones caused by the machines. The logical follow up is to ask whether the gadgets cannot cause less serious injuries. Yes, they can and, therefore, E wins by practical rationale. Capable of or able to is just a ploy, as I see it.

Of course, The OE throws no more light than announcing the OA, as we often tend to say in our explanations that X is better than Y, rather than say why.

Originally posted by daagh on 30 Dec 2015, 05:47.
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a is wrong because, if I do not make a mistake

as+adjective +a+noun+as
is correct pattern
we do not have plural noun between as ... as

this point of grammar is too subtle and is purely grammatical and so is not focus of gmat sc. there is one gmatprep question which test this pattern. if this question appear on your test, are are on 750 score already.
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thangvietnam wrote:
a is wrong because, if I do not make a mistake

as+adjective +a+noun+as
is correct pattern
we do not have plural noun between as ... as

this point of grammar is too subtle and is purely grammatical and so is not focus of gmat sc. there is one gmatprep question which test this pattern. if this question appear on your test, are are on 750 score already.


I am not sure whether the point you mentioned is correct. Take this example:

It is as good a book as any.
They are as good books as any.

The second construction in plural does not seem to be wrong.

However, from concision aspect, option E is better than option A. I shall try to compare with a simpler example:

Option I: using a clause:I love football, which is the national game of Madland.
Option II: using a phrase: I love football, the national game of Madland.

Option II is obviously more concise than option I. This explanation seems to be the point in GMAC answer as mentioned by naumyak. (although the phrase used in the original sentence is an adjective phrase, not a noun phrase as is used here.)
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Discussing A and E:
One reason why A is not correct because it uses an unidiomatic (in the context) infinitive’ to inflict’ as though the gadgets intentionally cause the injuries. Capable of inflictive, an indicative idiom is better than the one in A.
In addition, one might note a subtle meaning error in A. The idea is to say that the gadgets can inflict injuries as serious as those caused by the woodcutters can. However, A distorts the logical intent by saying that they cause such serious injuries as those caused by the woodcutters. This implies that the gadgets can only cause injuries that are comparable in seriousness with the woodcutters and not less. Now we know the gadgets at worst cause as serious injuries as those by wood cutters and normally they are less serious.
I would say E is good.

Originally posted by daagh on 28 Jan 2016, 09:47.
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Why E is better than B?

Is it only because the meaning the Daagh mentioned above?
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In"B" "which" is not required. Also there is a comparison. Hence "as" is correct usage not "such as.".So it is not a case where examples are required. Hence "such as" is not needed in "B."
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Many kitchens today are equipped with high-speed electrical gadgets, such as blenders and food processors, which are able to inflict as serious injuries as those caused by an industrial wood-planing machine.

Issue: Comparison

Analysis:
1. In this sentence we want to make sure that similar entities are being compared in the underlined clause i.e. injuries are compared with injuries

(A) which are able to inflict as serious injuries as those
- Redundant

(B) which can inflict serious injuries such as those
- "such as" changes the meaning of the sentence from what is originally intended.

(C) inflicting injuries as serious as that having been
- Incorrect comparison

(D) capable to inflict injuries as serious as that
- Incorrect idiom "capable to.."

(E) capable of inflicting injuries as serious as those

Answer: (E)
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Hi Experts,

I just wanted to clarify the comparison expression "As X As" in this question. If we have an expression: "As much X as Y", we make sure that X and Y are parallel elements that are being compared. Can you explain the usage of "As X As" expression for comparison? What 2 elements does it compare? Thanks a ton!
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Hi Experts,

I just wanted to clarify the comparison expression "As X As" in this question. If we have an expression: "As much X as Y", we make sure that X and Y are parallel elements that are being compared. Can you explain the usage of "As X As" expression for comparison? What 2 elements does it compare? Thanks a ton!


The parallel elements are "injuries" and "those".
"injuries" (inflicted by kitchen equipment) is compared with "those" (= injuries - cause by wood planing machines).

(In your structure "as X as", X is not an element of comparison: X = serious, an adjective - the structure here is "X as [adjective] as Y".)
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Many kitchens today are equipped with high-speed electrical gadgets, such as blenders and food processors, which are able to inflict as serious injuries as those caused by an industrial wood-planing machine.

(A) which are able to inflict as serious injuries as those
(B) which can inflict serious injuries such as those
(C) inflicting injuries as serious as that having been
(D) capable to inflict injuries as serious as that
(E) capable of inflicting injuries as serious as those


A- "as serious as" is incorrect it is saying the gadgets able to inflict "as serious injuries".. compare "inflict damage" to "inflict as serious injuries"... it's not a good comparison. Eliminate
B- 'such as those' is used to provide examples of injury types. This answer choice really doesn't fit without adding a comma between injuries and such. Verb Tense is also incorrect 'having been' does not fit with past tense already established by 'equipped'..Eliminate
C- 'gadets...inflicting' implies they are designed to inflict..thats their job..'inflicting...' Eliminate.
D- capable to.... incorrect idiom. Capable of

E - Correct use of idiom 'capable of' plus 'as serious as' is correct comparison. Lock it in
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Hi Experts!

I have a few questions in choice A.

1) I think some of the official questions uses "Noun" after the first "as" in 'as X as Y' construction and I believe that's okay. It's not a requirement to have an adjective or adverb for 'X' in 'as X as Y' construction. But in this question, the meaning would change because "as serious injuries as those caused by..." here we are saying that the gadgets will cause the same number of serious injuries as the number of injuries caused by industrial machine. The focus in this question is NOT on comparing the number of serious injuries but the "seriousness" of the injuries. Is my understanding correct here?

2) Can you tell me why "able to" is wrong here?

Thank you very much!

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sdlife wrote:
But in this question, the meaning would change because "as serious injuries as those caused by..." here we are saying that the gadgets will cause the same number of serious injuries as the number of injuries caused by industrial machine. The focus in this question is NOT on comparing the number of serious injuries but the "seriousness" of the injuries. Is my understanding correct here?

Hi sdlife, if the intent was to compare the number of serious injuries, then the sentence would be:

..capable of inflicting as many serious injuries as.....
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Hi sdlife, if the intent was to compare the number of serious injuries, then the sentence would be:

..capable of inflicting as many serious injuries as.....


Thank you! Can you please tell what meaning comes out of choice A? And what's the issue with that comparison?
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The easiest way to eliminate A would be that which is modifying food processors, while the intent is to modify electrical gadgets.
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