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I still don't understand why D is correct? The passage says they have already used less insecticide on the GMO corn

Let's say that most farmers who tried the GM corn applied more insecticide than was actually necessary. In that case, they could theoretically save even MORE money on insecticide by using less of it next time. In other words, they spent more money than was needed on insecticide.

The author says, "The farmers saved X dollars on insecticide, but they had to spend an extra X dollars (approximately) for the GM seed. So overall they did not save any money." But maybe farmers used, for example, twice as much insecticide as was actually necessary. In that case, using the GM seeds with the CORRECT amount of insecticide would actually save the farmers money.

So we would absolutely want to answer the question in option (D) in order to evaluate the author's argument. I hope that helps!
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Hi Meghna,


Please help me by resolving the conflict in my assumption in this question-

Profit depends on cost and selling price. Here the author is saying that the switching would unlikely increase profit. Hence the assumption could be that the selling price of both genetically modified feed corn and ordinary corn is same. Hence the answer can be (B).

However, I don't challenge GMAT :). But I am not able to establish linkages between premises to come up with an assumption to arrive at (D) in e-gmat way. Because the premise clearly says that savings in using less insecticide cannnot offset the cost of seed. So even if we use even less insecticide its not going to make too much difference. Plus how can we challenge/change premise.

Can you please guide.

Thanks,
Pritisha


For (B) vs (D), check this link: https://gmatclub.com/forum/scientists-ha ... l#p1382766

Ask if anything remains unclear.



Hi Karishma,
If option B was something like:
Whether the price that farmers receive for feed corn would fluctuate in future.

Will it be a contender then?

Regards,
SR




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iin the post below,it is assumed that "selling price for both the type of corn is same".why we need to assume that selling price is same for both
the argument is talking about profit
here is my 2 scents. please review
profit=price-cost
plan A:GM CORN
plan B:NORMAL CORN
CONCLUSION:WHICH PLAN WILL LEAD TO MORE PROFIT
SO WE NEED INFORMATION ABOUT PRICE AND COST
1)IF AN OPTION SAY GENETICALLY MODIFIED CORNS ARE HIGHER IN QUALITY AND HENCE HIGH PRICE.THEN PROFIT WILL INCREASE
2)IF ANY ANSWER CHOICE SAY THERE ARE WAYS TO REDUCE TOTAL COST IN PLAN B,IT WILL HELP TO EVALUATE THE ARGUMENT
AS COST=COST OF INSECTICIDE+COST OF SEED
COST OF GM modified seed> cost of normal seed
so focus is on insecticide
say:amount of insecticide can be reduced further then last year or say GM corn needs cheaper insecticide,then plan B will lead to more profit
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iin the post below,it is assumed that "selling price for both the type of corn is same".why we need to assume that selling price is same for both
the argument is talking about profit
here is my 2 scents. please review
profit=price-cost
plan A:GM CORN
plan B:NORMAL CORN
CONCLUSION:WHICH PLAN WILL LEAD TO MORE PROFIT
SO WE NEED INFORMATION ABOUT PRICE AND COST
1)IF AN OPTION SAY GENETICALLY MODIFIED CORNS ARE HIGHER IN QUALITY AND HENCE HIGH PRICE.THEN PROFIT WILL INCREASE
2)IF ANY ANSWER CHOICE SAY THERE ARE WAYS TO REDUCE TOTAL COST IN PLAN B,IT WILL HELP TO EVALUATE THE ARGUMENT
AS COST=COST OF INSECTICIDE+COST OF SEED
COST OF GM modified seed> cost of normal seed
so focus is on insecticide
say:amount of insecticide can be reduced further then last year or say GM corn needs cheaper insecticide,then plan B will lead to more profit


The argument does not talk about the retail price changing according to the seeds used. So we assume that it stays the same while evaluating our options. If some option tells us that using GM seeds, we can command a higher price for the crop, it is certainly something we should evaluate with reference to the profit. Since the options do not mention it, we do not need to worry about it.
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Can you please explain why A is wrong
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Scientists have modified feed corn genetically, increasing its resistance to insect pests. Farmers who tried out the genetically modified corn last season applied less insecticide to their corn fields and still got yields comparable to those they would have gotten with ordinary corn. Ordinary corn seed, however, costs less, and what these farmers saved on insecticide rarely exceeded their extra costs for seed. Therefore, for most feed-corn farmers, switching to genetically modified seed would be unlikely to increase profits. --> Highlighted part is the conclusion

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Which of the following would it be most useful to know in order to evaluate the argument?

(A) Whether there are insect pests that sometimes reduce feed-corn yields, but against which commonly used insecticides and the genetic modification are equally ineffective

The conclusion is related to profit. We need something to evaluate that part. This choice doesn't impact the profit at all.
A "yes" to the option will mean that there are insects that equally impact modified and normal corns. Thus, as per the premise conclusion still holds.
A "no" to the option will mean that there are insects against which both modified and normal corns are equally effective. Thus, as per the premise conclusion still holds.
In either case the conclusion still holds. Thus, A is wrong.

Hope that helps!
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Scientists have modified feed corn genetically, increasing its resistance to insect pests.

• Scientists have improved feed corns' resistance to insect pests by genetically modifying it.

Farmers who tried out the genetically modified corn last season applied less insecticide to their cornfields and still got yields comparable to those they would have gotten with ordinary corn.

• Farmers who used genetically modified corn last season applied a comparatively less quantity of insecticide to their cornfields.
• Even with the use of a lower quantity of insecticide and genetically modified seeds, the yields were the same as with ordinary corn.

Ordinary corn seed, however, costs less, and what these farmers saved on insecticide rarely exceeded their extra costs for seed.

• Ordinary seeds are cheaper than genetically modified seeds.
• The money saved on insecticide is often less than the extra cost for genetically modified seeds.

Therefore, for most feed-corn farmers, switching to genetically modified seed would be unlikely to increase profits.

• Thus, for most of the feed-corn farmers, changing to genetically modified corn seeds for farming would not likely to lead to higher profits.

Conclusion: For most feed-corn farmers, switching to genetically modified seed would be unlikely to increase profits.

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Falsification scenario

In what scenario - switching to genetically modified seed would likely increase profits?
Given that:
(i) Genetically modified seeds have a higher resistance to insect pests.
(ii) Yields from genetically modified seeds + less quantity of insecticide = Yields from ordinary seeds + usual amount of insecticide.
(iii) Ordinary seeds are cheaper than genetically modified seeds.
(iv) Savings on pesticides are rarely more than the extra cost for genetically modified seeds.

Though Process
The author talks about two types of corn seeds: genetically modified seeds and ordinary seeds.
The amount of pesticide used with genetically modified seeds is less than the amount of pesticide used with ordinary seeds. However, the yields from both types of seeds are the same. Also, the cost of ordinary seeds is less than the cost of genetically modified seeds. And the savings on the pesticide used with genetically modified seeds are rarely less than the extra cost of the genetically modified seeds. Thus, the author does not believe that using genetically modified seeds will lead to increased profit.

Falsification condition 1: What if the amount of pesticide used last season was more than the amount required with genetically modified seeds?
Let's say the amount of pesticide used last season, although lower than the usual amount, was more than the optimal amount required with genetically modified seeds. Using an even lesser quantity of pesticides will reduce the cost further. This condition would lead to an increase in profits.

Assumption 1: The quantity of pesticide used by farmers with genetically modified seeds last season, was optimal.

Falsification condition 2: What if using genetically modified seeds significantly reduces other agricultural costs?
Let's say the cost of water, the cost of fertilizers etc. is significantly less when genetically modified seeds are used. This condition will lead to increased profits when using genetically modified seeds.

Assumption 2: Using genetically modified seeds does not significantly reduce other agricultural costs.

Answer Choice Analysis

(A) Whether there are insect pests that sometimes reduce feed-corn yields, but against which commonly used insecticides and the genetic modification are equally ineffective INCORRECT
• The evaluation question of this option will provide information about insect pests which are not relevant to the passage. The passage talks about a specific type of insect pest and how they affect yields from two different kinds of seeds.
• The passage talks about the profitability of using one of the two seeds.
• Therefore, this choice is incorrect.


(B) Whether the price that farmers receive for feed corn has remained steady over the past few years INCORRECT
• If the price of the feed corn has remained steady, then the selling price would not necessarily be different for both types of seeds since the option talks about the past few years. The profits could be comparable if the selling price is the same.
• If the price of feed corn has not remained steady, then the price could either have gone up or gone down. In either case, the profit or loss would not be different for both types of seed.
• Hence, this choice is incorrect.


(C) Whether the insecticides typically used on feed corn tend to be more expensive than insecticides typically used on other crops INCORRECT
• This information is irrelevant to the passage because the passage is not concerned about the price of insecticides used on other crops.
• This choice is incorrect.


(D) Whether most of the farmers who tried the genetically modified corn last season applied more insecticide than was actually necessary CORRECT
• This option is directly in line with our pre-thinking assumption 1.
• Variance test
o Yes - Most of the farmers who tried the genetically modified corn last season applied more insecticide than was actually necessary.
o This would weaken our belief in the conclusion because this case would falsify the conclusion.
o No - Most of the farmers who tried the genetically modified corn last season did not apply more insecticide than was actually necessary.
o This would mean that the quantity of insecticide used would have been optimal, and there is no possible way to increase profits. This strengthens our belief in the conclusion.
o This choice is the correct answer.


(E) Whether, for most farmers who plant feed corn, it is their most profitable crop INCORRECT
• The passage is about the profitability of genetically modified seeds over ordinary seeds. Whether feed corn is the most profitable crop or not is irrelevant to the passage.
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Scientists have modified feed corn genetically, increasing its resistance to insect pests. Farmers who tried out the genetically modified corn last season applied less insecticide to their corn fields and still got yields comparable to those they would have gotten with ordinary corn. Ordinary corn seed, however, costs less, and what these farmers saved on insecticide rarely exceeded their extra costs for seed. Therefore, for most feed-corn farmers, switching to genetically modified seed would be unlikely to increase profits.

Which of the following would it be most useful to know in order to evaluate the argument?

(A) Whether there are insect pests that sometimes reduce feed-corn yields, but against which commonly used insecticides and the genetic modification are equally ineffective

(B) Whether the price that farmers receive for feed corn has remained steady over the past few years

(C) Whether the insecticides typically used on feed corn tend to be more expensive than insecticides typically used on other crops

(D) Whether most of the farmers who tried the genetically modified corn last season applied more insecticide than was actually necessary

(E) Whether, for most farmers who plant feed corn, it is their most profitable crop

Modified Feed Corn

Step 1: Identify the Question

The wording useful to know in order to evaluate in the question stem indicates that this is an Evaluate the Argument question.

Step 2: Deconstruct the Argument

Note: this argument uses the term “feed corn” interchangeably with the word “corn.” Both terms refer to corn that is grown specifically to feed to animals, not humans. Throughout the argument, there are two types of this corn mentioned: ordinary feed corn (OC) and genetically modified feed corn (GMC).

GMC: pest resist; use less insecticide, = yields OC

OC costs less

Savings on I for GMC not more than > costs for GMC

SO: switch to GMC not likely to > prof

The author concludes that switching from OC to GMC is unlikely to increase profits, since a group of farmers who tried switching found that the costs associated with growing GMC frequently exceeded the savings accrued from reduced use of insecticide. This conclusion assumes that there are no additional savings that could be accrued by using GMC, allowing these farmers to increase profits. It also assumes that there are no opportunities for farmers to sell GMC for a higher price, thereby increasing profits. Is that the case?

Step 3: Pause and State the Goal

On Evaluate questions, the answers will be in the form of a question or a “whether x is true” statement. The correct answer will address an issue on which the argument hinges, depending on whether that statement is true: one way, the argument will be strengthened; the other way, the argument will be weakened.

Step 4: Work from Wrong to Right

(A) This choice is confusing. Re-worded, it says “Whether there are some corn pests that can’t be stopped by either regular insecticides or the GMC.” If there are, then both the regular corn and the GMC would be equally affected. If there aren’t, then both types of corn would still be equally affected. This choice does not affect the conclusion, since it does not address the possibility that farmers could increase profits by switching to GMC.

(B) This choice references feed corn in general; it does not make a distinction between GMC and OC. If all prices have remained steady, the argument is not affected. If all prices have fluctuated, the argument is not affected, since any impact on GMC profits would also apply to OC profits.

(C) This choice references feed corn in general; it does not make a distinction between GMC and OC. The price of insecticide for corn vs. the price for other crops is not at issue in the argument.

(D) CORRECT. If the farmers did apply more insecticide than needed, they could reduce the amount of insecticide even more next season. This further reduction could allow them to save enough money to increase profits, so this opportunity weakens the conclusion. If, on the other hand, farmers applied just as much insecticide as needed, then they would have to do the same next season. This necessity would support the argument’s conclusion that the farmers are unlikely to increase profits by growing GMC.

(E) This choice references feed corn in general; it does not make a distinction between GMC and OC. Whether corn in general is more profitable than other crops is not at issue in the argument.


GMATNinja karishma can you shed some light on A? I didn't understand the explanation from MPrep..
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Scientists have modified feed corn genetically, increasing its resistance to insect pests. Farmers who tried out the genetically modified corn last season applied less insecticide to their corn fields and still got yields comparable to those they would have gotten with ordinary corn. Ordinary corn seed, however, costs less, and what these farmers saved on insecticide rarely exceeded their extra costs for seed. Therefore, for most feed-corn farmers, switching to genetically modified seed would be unlikely to increase profits.

Which of the following would it be most useful to know in order to evaluate the argument?

(A) Whether there are insect pests that sometimes reduce feed-corn yields, but against which commonly used insecticides and the genetic modification are equally ineffective

(B) Whether the price that farmers receive for feed corn has remained steady over the past few years

(C) Whether the insecticides typically used on feed corn tend to be more expensive than insecticides typically used on other crops

(D) Whether most of the farmers who tried the genetically modified corn last season applied more insecticide than was actually necessary

(E) Whether, for most farmers who plant feed corn, it is their most profitable crop

Modified Feed Corn

Step 1: Identify the Question

The wording useful to know in order to evaluate in the question stem indicates that this is an Evaluate the Argument question.

Step 2: Deconstruct the Argument

Note: this argument uses the term “feed corn” interchangeably with the word “corn.” Both terms refer to corn that is grown specifically to feed to animals, not humans. Throughout the argument, there are two types of this corn mentioned: ordinary feed corn (OC) and genetically modified feed corn (GMC).

GMC: pest resist; use less insecticide, = yields OC

OC costs less

Savings on I for GMC not more than > costs for GMC

SO: switch to GMC not likely to > prof

The author concludes that switching from OC to GMC is unlikely to increase profits, since a group of farmers who tried switching found that the costs associated with growing GMC frequently exceeded the savings accrued from reduced use of insecticide. This conclusion assumes that there are no additional savings that could be accrued by using GMC, allowing these farmers to increase profits. It also assumes that there are no opportunities for farmers to sell GMC for a higher price, thereby increasing profits. Is that the case?

Step 3: Pause and State the Goal

On Evaluate questions, the answers will be in the form of a question or a “whether x is true” statement. The correct answer will address an issue on which the argument hinges, depending on whether that statement is true: one way, the argument will be strengthened; the other way, the argument will be weakened.

Step 4: Work from Wrong to Right

(A) This choice is confusing. Re-worded, it says “Whether there are some corn pests that can’t be stopped by either regular insecticides or the GMC.” If there are, then both the regular corn and the GMC would be equally affected. If there aren’t, then both types of corn would still be equally affected. This choice does not affect the conclusion, since it does not address the possibility that farmers could increase profits by switching to GMC.

(B) This choice references feed corn in general; it does not make a distinction between GMC and OC. If all prices have remained steady, the argument is not affected. If all prices have fluctuated, the argument is not affected, since any impact on GMC profits would also apply to OC profits.

(C) This choice references feed corn in general; it does not make a distinction between GMC and OC. The price of insecticide for corn vs. the price for other crops is not at issue in the argument.

(D) CORRECT. If the farmers did apply more insecticide than needed, they could reduce the amount of insecticide even more next season. This further reduction could allow them to save enough money to increase profits, so this opportunity weakens the conclusion. If, on the other hand, farmers applied just as much insecticide as needed, then they would have to do the same next season. This necessity would support the argument’s conclusion that the farmers are unlikely to increase profits by growing GMC.

(E) This choice references feed corn in general; it does not make a distinction between GMC and OC. Whether corn in general is more profitable than other crops is not at issue in the argument.


GMATNinja karishma can you shed some light on A? I didn't understand the explanation from MPrep..

The author concludes that “for most feed-corn farmers, switching (from ordinary seed) to genetically modified seed would be unlikely to increase profits.” So, the author compares the profitability of ordinary seeds with that of genetically modified seeds. The prompt then asks us for an answer choice that helps to evaluate the argument. With that in mind, here’s (A):

Quote:
(A) Whether there are insect pests that sometimes reduce feed-corn yields, but against which commonly used insecticides and the genetic modification are EQUALLY ineffective

The author’s conclusion contrasted the profitability of two types of seed. But (A) gives information on insect pests against which genetically modified and ordinary seeds are equally ineffective. Because the answer choice indicates that both types of seed are equally ineffective against these pests, whether they exist or not, (A) does not help to evaluate the argument, and we can eliminate it.

I hope that helps!
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D stands out. But even D seems to have a few flaws.

The cost of the genetically modified seeds is high so if they use insecticides there will be a loss. - strengthens the arg
If they do not use insecticides how can it be deemed a profit ? (the cost of the seeds is HIGH ) - how does this weaken the arg to effectively be the right answer?

Can someone plz help ?


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Premises:
Farmers who tried out the genetically modified corn last season applied less insecticide to their corn fields.
Farmers still got yields comparable to those they would have gotten with ordinary corn.
Genetically modified corn seed is more expensive and money saved on insecticide rarely exceeded their extra costs for seed.

Conclusion:
For most feed-corn farmers, switching to genetically modified seed would be unlikely to increase profits.

Based on previous year's experience, the author is concluding what will happen this year - profits will not increase if farmers use genetically modified seeds.

(B) Whether the price that farmers receive for feed corn has remained steady over the past few years
This information does not affect our this year's profit. If price has remained steady, it doesn't mean it will remain steady this year too.
So whether this year profit will increase or decrease or stay the same, we don't know.

(D) Whether most of the farmers who tried the genetically modified corn last season applied more insecticide than was actually necessary.
This question when answered will tell us whether we can decrease the amount of insecticide used this year. If last year farmers had used more insecticide than was required, perhaps we can decrease it this year without affecting the yield. If we decrease the amount of insecticide, we might decrease costs such that using modified crop seeds might lower our total costs this year. This will affect our profit this year.

Hence (D) is correct.


But the author tells us in the passage that "less" of insecticide was used?
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[quote="ykaiim"]Scientists have modified feed corn genetically, increasing its resistance to insect pests. Farmers who tried out the genetically modified corn last season applied less insecticide to their corn fields and still got yields comparable to those they The Variance Test consists of supplying two polar opposite responses to the
question posed in the answer choice and then analyzing how the varying
responses affect the conclusion in the stimulus. If different responses produce
different effects on the conclusion, then the answer choice is correct. If different
responses do not produce different effects, then the answer choice is incorrect.

premises:
1) Scientists have modified feed corn genetically, increasing its resistance to insect pests. 2) Farmers who tried out the genetically modified corn last season applied less insecticide to their cornfields and still got yields comparable to those they would have gotten with ordinary corn.
3) Ordinary corn seed, however, costs less,
4) and what these farmers saved on insecticide rarely exceeded their extra costs for seed.
conclusion: Therefore, for most feed-corn farmers, switching to genetically modified seeds would be unlikely to increase profits.
A) if there are such insect pests, then the conclusion holds up, if not, the conclusion might hold up, too, the wrong answer
B) out of scope, the price of feed corn is steady or not is irrelevant
C) out of scope
D) out of scope, or if it is the case, the cost of insecticides could be lower, weaken the argument, but if it is not the case, then strengthen the argument
E) out of scope
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VeritasKarishma wrote:
janxavier wrote:
D stands out. But even D seems to have a few flaws.

The cost of the genetically modified seeds is high so if they use insecticides there will be a loss. - strengthens the arg
If they do not use insecticides how can it be deemed a profit ? (the cost of the seeds is HIGH ) - how does this weaken the arg to effectively be the right answer?

Can someone plz help ?


Responding to a pm:

Premises:
Farmers who tried out the genetically modified corn last season applied less insecticide to their corn fields.
Farmers still got yields comparable to those they would have gotten with ordinary corn.
Genetically modified corn seed is more expensive and money saved on insecticide rarely exceeded their extra costs for seed.

Conclusion:
For most feed-corn farmers, switching to genetically modified seed would be unlikely to increase profits.

Based on previous year's experience, the author is concluding what will happen this year - profits will not increase if farmers use genetically modified seeds.

(B) Whether the price that farmers receive for feed corn has remained steady over the past few years
This information does not affect our this year's profit. If price has remained steady, it doesn't mean it will remain steady this year too.
So whether this year profit will increase or decrease or stay the same, we don't know.

(D) Whether most of the farmers who tried the genetically modified corn last season applied more insecticide than was actually necessary.
This question when answered will tell us whether we can decrease the amount of insecticide used this year. If last year farmers had used more insecticide than was required, perhaps we can decrease it this year without affecting the yield. If we decrease the amount of insecticide, we might decrease costs such that using modified crop seeds might lower our total costs this year. This will affect our profit this year.

Hence (D) is correct.


But the author tells us in the passage that "less" of insecticide was used?

Check out this post, which addresses this specific issue. Let us know if that doesn't clear things up!
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ykaiim wrote:
Scientists have modified feed corn genetically, increasing its resistance to insect pests. Farmers who tried out the genetically modified corn last season applied less insecticide to their corn fields and still got yields comparable to those they would have gotten with ordinary corn. Ordinary corn seed, however, costs less, and what these farmers saved on insecticide rarely exceeded their extra costs for seed. Therefore, for most feed-corn farmers, switching to genetically modified seed would be unlikely to increase profits.

Which of the following would it be most useful to know in order to evaluate the argument?

(A) Whether there are insect pests that sometimes reduce feed-corn yields, but against which commonly used insecticides and the genetic modification are equally ineffective

(B) Whether the price that farmers receive for feed corn has remained steady over the past few years

(C) Whether the insecticides typically used on feed corn tend to be more expensive than insecticides typically used on other crops

(D) Whether most of the farmers who tried the genetically modified corn last season applied more insecticide than was actually necessary

(E) Whether, for most farmers who plant feed corn, it is their most profitable crop



Solution
passage analysis            
                                                 
Scientists have modified feed corn genetically, increasing its resistance to insect pests.
    Genetically modified (GM) feed corn has higher resistance to insect pests.
 
Farmers who tried out the genetically modified corn last season applied less insecticide to their corn fields
    Farmers who sowed these GM corn last season, used less insecticide on the corn fields

 and still got yields comparable to those they would have gotten with ordinary corn.
    And even with less insecticides, they were able to get similar yields that they would have gotten even if they had used ordinary corn. (what we can infer here is that the yield that these farmers got with GM corn + less insecticide = ordinary corn + more insecticide)

Ordinary corn seed, however, costs less, and what these farmers saved on insecticide rarely exceeded their extra costs for seed.
    But ordinary corn seed is cheaper than GM corn seeds. Whatever the GM corn using farmers save on the insecticide costs is seldom more than what they spend extra on the GM corn seeds.

Therefore, for most feed-corn farmers, switching to genetically modified seed would be unlikely to increase profits.
    Hence, for most of the feed-corn farmers, changing to using GM corn seeds would be unlikely to lead to higher profits.

Conclusion:
 For most feed-corn farmers, switching to genetically modified seeds would be unlikely to increase profits since
    The GM corn seeds are costlier than the ordinary corn seed
    The saving on pesticides is seldom more than the extra cost of the GM seeds


pre-thinking                                                                 
Falsification question

In what scenario will switching to genetically modified seed be likely to increase profits for most feed-corn farmers?
Given that  →Genetically modified (GM) feed corn has higher resistance to insect pests.
                   →the yield that these farmers got with GM corn + less insecticide = ordinary corn + more insecticide
                   →The GM corn seeds are costlier than the ordinary corn seed
                   →Saving on pesticides is seldom more than the extra cost of the GM seeds
Thought Process

Here the debate is about GM seeds of corn and whether their usage is likely to be profitable or not. Agreed that these seeds cost more than the ordinary seeds but because the GM seeds need less fertilizers, these farmers would save money on the fertilizers. Yet this saving is not really useful because what they save here is almost always the extra that they spend on the GM seeds. So the author believes profits are unlikely to increase for most farmers who want to start using GM seeds.

Falsification condition#1

What if the farmers who used GM corn seed last season did not correctly estimate the quantity of pesticide that should be used?

Let us say, the quantity of pesticide they used last year could have been reduced further to save on pesticide costs. Then there would have been a good chance of earning profits even with comparable yields.

Assumption#1

The quantity of pesticide used by the farmers using GM seeds could not have been further reduced or was the optimal.

Falsification condition#2

What if the use of GM seeds significantly reduces other agricultural costs like irrigation, etc?

Say the GM seeds can do with very little water or they can do with less supervision, thus cutting down considerably on labour, etc. In that case, even with higher GM seed costs and comparable yields, switching to GM seeds would increase profits.

Assumption#2

Overall, all other costs of production remain comparable for both GM seed users and ordinary corn seed users.

Answer Choice Analysis

A
This option seeks to know whether there are insect pests that reduce feed-corn yield, but against which common insecticides and GM are useless.

Why is the existence of these pests important here? We know that certain kinds of pests exist and we are given the results for two kinds of seeds for these pests. Our goal is to evaluate whether planting one kind is more profitable. The existence of a special variety of seeds is irrelevant in that context

Hence, this is not the correct choice.

B
Once again, if the yield after using the GM corn seeds does not exceed that after using ordinary corn seeds, then whatever be the price, the earnings from the sale would remain comparable. It is not that GM corn is fetching a higher price.

Hence, this option is not the correct choice.

C
Comparison with the cost of pesticides used on other crops will not serve my argument any which way. It is irrelevant because that impacts the cost of growing for other crops.

Hence, it is not the correct choice.

D
Although, as per the passage the GM seed users used less pesticides last season, we would like to know if it was the optimal amount that was used or more than the necessary amount needed that was used.

It is along the lines of our pre-thinking assumption#1.

Let us put it to the variance test

Yes- Most of the farmers who tried the genetically modified corn last season DID apply more insecticide than was actually necessary.

If they did then our assumption would be falsified, and our conclusion weakened.

No - Most of the farmers who tried the genetically modified corn last season DID NOT apply more insecticide than was actually necessary

In this case, the pesticide costs could not have been reduced further. Our belief in the conclusion is further strengthened, though.

Hence, this is the correct choice.

E
The point under discussion is the profitability of GM corn over the profitability of ordinary corn. So, whether feed corn is their most profitable crop does not reflect on whether the change to GM corn will be profitable or not.

Hence, not the correct answer.


Do you guys realize that we don't have so much time during the exam to follow Falsification and all this jazz?

Would request all fellow readers to get the basics right and to follow proper logic like KarishmaB or GMATNinja instead.
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Scientists have modified feed corn genetically, increasing its resistance to insect pests. Farmers who tried out the genetically modified corn last season applied less insecticide to their corn fields and still got yields comparable to those they would have gotten with ordinary corn. Ordinary corn seed, however, costs less, and what these farmers saved on insecticide rarely exceeded their extra costs for seed. Therefore, for most feed-corn farmers, switching to genetically modified seed would be unlikely to increase profits.

Argument in the Standard Form:
(1) Scientists increased feed corn resistance to insect pests by modifying the feed corn.
(2) In last season, farmers who used modified corn applied less insecticide to their corn fields and still got yeilds comparable to those they would have gotten with ordinary corn.
(3) Ordinary Corn Seeds costs less.
(3*) Modified Corn Seed costs more.
(4) Savings on insecticide rarely exceeded their extra costs for modified corn seeds.
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(5) Therefore, for most feed-corn farmers, switching to Modified Corn Seed would be unlikely to increase profits.

How to increase profits? Either by increasing sales or reducing costs.

Possible ways that help us evaluate the strength/weakeness of the argument is:
[Revenue Related] (1) Do customers purchase more or less of Modified Corn?
[Revnue Related] (2) Do Modified Seeds produce more yeilds? (Impossible because of 2).
[Revnue Related] (3) Whether Modified Corn seeds selling price is higher
[Cots Related] (4) Is it cheaper to use Modified Seeds? (impossible because of 3*, which is derived from 3)
[Costs Related] (5) Are the costs associated with Modified seeds less? (using less quantity of insectides or less water or cheaper type of insectides)?

Any if these would help us evaluate whether the conclusion is strong or weak Except for 2, 3 which are impossible.

(A) Whether there are insect pests that sometimes reduce feed-corn yields, but against which commonly used insecticides and the genetic modification are equally ineffective
Nothing about revenue or costs, so out.

(B) Whether the price that farmers receive for feed corn has remained steady over the past few years
Something is about price now but doesn't specify Modified Corn.

(C) Whether the insecticides typically used on feed corn tend to be more expensive than insecticides typically used on other crops
Something about costs now, but its comparing costs to other crops such as Onions. Totally unhelpful.


(D) Whether most of the farmers who tried the genetically modified corn last season applied more insecticide than was actually necessary
Good one.
If they applied the right amount, then we can conclude that they won't increase profits
if they applied more amount, then the conclusion is questionable until we know.
If they applied less is not possible since there will be no crops.

(E) Whether, for most farmers who plant feed corn, it is their most profitable crop
What if not? Unrelated to the conclusion.
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Re: Scientists have modified feed corn genetically, increasing its resista [#permalink]
KarishmaB wrote:
kedusei wrote:
jai1902 wrote:
Of course, we know the OA and we also know the reasoning. Still let us see the logical flow of the argument.

For same yield,

Premise 1: Conventional Corn-- uses X kg of Pesticide but seed is less expensive.
Premise 2: GM Corn-- uses 'less than X kg' of Pesticide but seed is expensive.
Conclusion: Though 'less than X kg' of Pesticide but seed is expensive. So, No profit INCREASE.


Assumption: Profit = Selling Price - Total Cost (pesticide + seed)

Option D introduces a new information which states that 'less than X kg' is still very high than 'actually necessary'. So, if we accept the info provided by Option D, Total Cost will reduce if we use only 'necessary' qty of pesticide.

For those, who still find Option A and Option B convincing, read below:

A. (I am not very happy with Official explanation given in the book but there is still another big flaw)
Insects SOMETIMES might infest the crop and neither pesticide or genetic modification will save it. So what, it might infest the crop once in a century. These unavoidable apocalyptic events might happen sometime. We should not take SOMETIMES occurring events to affect our decisions.

Take for example a situation:
Mayor: We should build a high rise building to accommodate people living in slums, which occupy large city area. The area saved can be used to build schools and hospitals.
Citizen: In every 10000 years, one earthquake hits the city. So, we should not build the high rise building because an earthquake might occur SOMETIME.

You know how dumb that citizen will sound!

B. If Selling Price increases, Profit will increase same for both types of farming, unless the changes in cost in Conventional farming are different from those in GM farming.


Where does it imply that selling price is the same? The first sentence says "modified feed corn" but B says "feed corn". How would I know that feed corn means modified and original


Note that option (B) says:
"Whether the price that farmers receive for feed corn has remained steady over the past few years"

The question is not trying to probe the difference in the selling price of original corn and modified corn. A steady or non-steady selling price in previous years will not help us decide whether original will give more profit or modified.

Had the question been: "Whether the farmers can receive a higher selling price for corn which uses less insecticide" or something similar, then it would have been relevant too our discussion of which corn will give more profit.


Hi Karishma,

In passage, it is mentioned that "what these farmers saved on insecticide rarely exceeded their extra costs for seed"
Saving on insecticides by using genetically modified seed<Extra cost of GM Seeds

So even if we use less insecticide as mentioned in D we will not be able to achieve the more profit as seed price of normal< GM seed price such that no saving in insecticide can cover it.

What is the probleme in my understanding?
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