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Re: Hunter: Many people blame hunters alone for the decline in [#permalink]
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Hunter: Many people blame hunters alone for the decline in Greenrock National Forest's deer population over the past ten years. Yet clearly, black bears have also played an important role in this decline. In the past ten years, the forest's protected black bear population has risen sharply, and examination of black bears found dead in the forest during the deer hunting season showed that a number of them had recently fed on deer.
In the hunter's argument, the portion in boldface plays which of the following roles?
(A) It is the main conclusion of the argument.
(B) It is a finding that the argument seeks to explain.
(C) It is an explanation that the argument concludes is correct.
(D) It provides evidence in support of the main conclusion of the argument.
(E) It introduces a judgment that the argument opposes

Please explain in a detailed reasoning.Nice explanation will be appreciated with kudos :)) . OA after explanations.

Answer is E: Author's total argument is against this the judgement of many people that hunters alone are responsible for deer population decline
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Premise: Many people blame hunters alone for the decline in Greenrock National Forest's deer population over the past ten years.
ConclusionYet clearly, black bears have also played an important role in this decline.

Premise :In the past ten years, the forest's protected black bear population has risen sharply, and examination of black bears found dead in the forest during the deer hunting season showed that a number of them had recently fed on deer.

Once you divide , you can see , ans :B

In the hunter's argument, the portion in boldface plays which of the following roles?
(A) It is the main conclusion of the argument. - no
(B) It is a finding that the argument seeks to explain. -yes
(C) It is an explanation that the argument concludes is correct. -no
(D) It provides evidence in support of the main conclusion of the argument. - no
(E) It introduces a judgment that the argument opposes - no
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IMO B: I dont think argument opposes the first premises. .OA???
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IMO B: I dont think argument opposes the first premises. .OA???


Yes it does, look at this way: the common belief is that hunters are responsible for deer population decline which is first bolded statement. The whole argument is against this to prove/conclude Black Bear play a great role and the hunters are not solely responsible
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E it is.. nicely explained in above posts..
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it is fairly simple e . whats the confusion with B ?
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Apply the strategy in MGMAT CR:
- Conclusion: Black bears have also played an important role in this decline
- Premise for: In the past ten years, the forest's protected black bear population has risen sharply, and examination of black bears found dead in the forest during the deer hunting season showed that a number of them had recently fed on deer.
- Premise against: Many people blame hunters alone for the decline in Greenrock National Forest's deer population over the past ten years.

This argument has a common structure of many CR problems: Some people claim/say that... Then an opposite idea appears to refute the initial opinion. Pay attention to the transitive word "YET" to spot the change in the argument.
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Hunter: Many people blame hunters alone for the decline in Greenrock National Forest's deer population over the past ten years. Yet clearly, black bears have also played an important role in this decline. In the past ten years, the forest's protected black bear population has risen sharply, and examination of black bears found dead in the forest during the deer hunting season showed that a number of them had recently fed on deer.
In the hunter's argument, the portion in boldface plays which of the following roles?

(A) It is the main conclusion of the argument.
No. Not the main conclusion.
(B) It is a finding that the argument seeks to explain.
it's no where mentioned as a "finding" ( finding is applicable if something is found out of a research, survey etc..)
(C) It is an explanation that the argument concludes is correct.
the argument concludes is right opposite to the bold faced sentence,rather it is just "blame" which the hunters think that people blame them ...
(D) It provides evidence in support of the main conclusion of the argument.
it's not at all supporting the main conclusion.Also, it's not an evidence.
(E) It introduces a judgment that the argument opposes
correct. As "it "(boldface) is a matter which is introduced by the hunters .It states that people blame them for the decline in Deer population.Also, the hunter is concluding a different reason for that.
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Hunter: Many people blame hunters alone for the decline in Greenrock National Forest's deer population over the past ten years. Yet clearly, black bears have also played an important role in this decline. In the past ten years, the forest's protected black bear population has risen sharply, and examination of black bears found dead in the forest during the deer hunting season showed that a number of them had recently fed on deer.
In the hunter's argument, the portion in boldface plays which of the following roles?
(A) It is the main conclusion of the argument.
(B) It is a finding that the argument seeks to explain. No
(C) It is an explanation that the argument concludes is correct.
(D) It provides evidence in support of the main conclusion of the argument.
(E) It introduces a judgment that the argument opposes



Conclusion starts with Yet which indicate opposition / contradiction to the previous premise i.e. bold faced
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Re: Hunter: Many people blame hunters alone for the decline in [#permalink]
Regarding the correct answer E

The author doesn't completely oppose the bold face statement in his conclusion - "Yet clearly, black bears have also played an important role in this decline".

Does someone care to explain?

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Yet is a trigger word for contradiction. Thanks!
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Hi, , it was a good question, but I don't really think that the difficulty level was correctly assigned here --> 600-700 Level in my opinion.
Bold Face questions are appear usually in level 600-700 and above.
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Hi Experts,
I have a couple of Qs for this argument:
a. Clarification in identifying main conclusion.
b. Is second part of (B) ie argument seeks to explain is correct?

Presenting my understanding:

Hunter: Many people blame hunters alone for the decline in Greenrock
National Forest???s deer population over the past ten years.

Here, hunter is the author of argument and the BF is belief of people.

Yet clearly, black bears have also played an important role in this decline.

Is this main conclusion since till now we were discussing people's belief but now, we are reading hunter's view?

In the past ten years, the forest???s protected black bear population has risen sharply, and examination of black bears found dead in the forest during the deer hunting season showed that a number of them had recently fed on deer.

This is an evidence to support earlier statement by hunter.

If I interpret correctly, yet clearly ??? is hunter???s opinion and hence becomes main conclusion in spite of first BF 1 i.e what people believe in ???.. Between third party (people) and author (hunter) author???s view is treated as main conclusion. What if no comments are made by author? Should one consider third party belief / claim as main conclusion?
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Hunter: Many people blame hunters alone for the decline in Greenrock National Forest's deer population over the past ten years. Yet clearly, black bears have also played an important role in this decline. In the past ten years, the forest's protected black bear population has risen sharply, and examination of black bears found dead in the forest during the deer hunting season showed that a number of them had recently fed on deer.

In the hunter's argument, the portion in boldface plays which of the following roles?

(A) It is the main conclusion of the argument.
(B) It is a finding that the argument seeks to explain.
(C) It is an explanation that the argument concludes is correct.
(D) It provides evidence in support of the main conclusion of the argument.
(E) It introduces a judgment that the argument opposes


Greenrock Deer Hunters

Step 1: Identify the Question

The phrase plays which of the following roles and the presence of boldface text in the argument show that this is a Describe the Role problem.

Step 2: Deconstruct the Argument

deer pop. ↓, due to hunting?

bear pop. ↑ + ev. of bears eating deer → © bears are also to blame

This argument, like many Describe the Role arguments, presents two perspectives. The first perspective is that of many people, who blame hunters for the decline in Greenrock’s deer population. The other perspective is that of a hunter, who disagrees. His conclusion, for which he provides two pieces of evidence, is that bears are at least partially to blame for the declining deer population.

Step 3: Pause and State the Goal

On Describe the Role questions, the goal is to identify the boldface pieces of the argument as premises or conclusions and determine whose perspective they represent. In this argument, the boldface portion represents the (unsupported) claim made by many people—and with which the hunter disagrees.

Step 4: Work from Wrong to Right

(A) Since the argument is presented from the perspective of the hunter, the main conclusion is that hunters are not solely responsible for the bears’ decline.

(B) The argument seeks to explain why the deer population is declining. It doesn’t seek to explain why people blame hunters for the decline, which is what the boldface portion states.

(C) The argument is from the perspective of the hunter, who disagrees with the boldface portion.

(D) This answer choice is incorrect for two reasons. First, the boldface portion is a conclusion, not evidence. Second, the main conclusion of the argument disagrees with the boldface portion.

(E) CORRECT. The bolded portion is, in fact, a conclusion (‘judgment’) with which the argument disagrees.
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Hunter: Many people blame hunters alone for the decline in Greenrock National Forest's deer population over the past ten years. -- This a just a judgement and Hunter opposes this judgement.

Yet clearly, black bears have also played an important role in this decline. -- Main conclusion of the argument and that's what the Hunter wants us to believe in.

In the past ten years, the forest's protected black bear population has risen sharply, and examination of black bears found dead in the forest during the deer hunting season showed that a number of them had recently fed on deer. -- He gives reasoning to support his conclusion.

In the hunter's argument, the portion in boldface plays which of the following roles?

(A) It is the main conclusion of the argument.
No, it's not the main conclusion.

(B) It is a finding that the argument seeks to explain.
No, argument is not explaining this but going against it.

(C) It is an explanation that the argument concludes is correct.
Incorrect.

(D) It provides evidence in support of the main conclusion of the argument.
This is a judgement and it opposes the main conclusion.

(E) It introduces a judgment that the argument opposes
Yes, that's the correct answer.
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Many people blame hunters alone for the decline in Greenrock National Forest's deer population over the past ten years. . Yet clearly, black bears have also played an important role in this decline. In the past ten years, the forest's protected black bear population has risen sharply, and examination of black bears found dead in the forest during the deer hunting season showed that a number of them had recently fed on deer.

In other words, the hunters alone are being blamed for the decline in deer population. But the word "Yet", which immediately succeeds the entire boldfaced statement, indicates a contrast (or some sort of opposition to what is being stated in bold). the rest of the argument proceeds to counter what's written in bold .

Hence, the boldfaced statement represents a statement that the argument seeks to oppose (or contrast).

This is exactly what is mentioned in (E). Hence, (E) is the right answer.
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Hello GMATNinja,

I am confused here, and I believe I am going to ask silly question :( . My question is "Who is Author" and "Who is Hunter" in this passage. I thought whole passage is stated by Hunter. I thought, everything written in passage is "Hunter's" point of view because passage starts with "HUNTER:"

Hunter: Many people blame hunters alone for the decline in Greenrock National Forest's deer population over the past ten years. Yet clearly, black bears have also played an important role in this decline. In the past ten years, the forest's protected black bear population has risen sharply, and examination of black bears found dead in the forest during the deer hunting season showed that a number of them had recently fed on deer.

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Hi Experts,
I have a couple of Qs for this argument:
a. Clarification in identifying main conclusion.
b. Is second part of (B) ie argument seeks to explain is correct?

Presenting my understanding:

Hunter: Many people blame hunters alone for the decline in Greenrock
National Forest???s deer population over the past ten years.

Here, hunter is the author of argument and the BF is belief of people.

Yet clearly, black bears have also played an important role in this decline.

Is this main conclusion since till now we were discussing people's belief but now, we are reading hunter's view?

In the past ten years, the forest???s protected black bear population has risen sharply, and examination of black bears found dead in the forest during the deer hunting season showed that a number of them had recently fed on deer.

This is an evidence to support earlier statement by hunter.

If I interpret correctly, yet clearly ??? is hunter???s opinion and hence becomes main conclusion in spite of first BF 1 i.e what people believe in ???.. Between third party (people) and author (hunter) author???s view is treated as main conclusion. What if no comments are made by author? Should one consider third party belief / claim as main conclusion?

Yes, the main conclusion is that "black bears have also played an important role in [the decline in GNF's deer population]". The use of the word "also" implies that the author agrees that hunters have played a role in the decline. However, unlike "many people", the author does not blame hunters alone.

This conclusion a bit tricky to see because it follows a contrasting statement. If the first sentence were removed, the author could have said, "In addition to hunters, black bears have also played an important role in the decline in GNF's deer population," and the conclusion would be the same. The first sentence simply states the belief of many people, a belief that the author's argument opposes. The last sentence provides evidence to support the author's conclusion. Thus, choice E is correct.
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(B) It is a finding that the argument seeks to explain.

As for choice B, the author only presents the belief in the first sentence and does seek to explain it.
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