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Re: GMAT Club World Cup 2022 (DAY 3): If a + b + c + d = 12, what is the [#permalink]
given that

\(a + b + c + d = 12\)

target value of \(\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2}\)

#1
\(ab = cd = ad\)
with given target possible value of each term is 3
sufficient
#2

\(|a| = |b| = |c| = |d|\)
each term would be +3
sufficient
option D

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(1) \(ab = cd = ad\)

(2) \(|a| = |b| = |c| = |d|\)


 


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A SAY A=C AND B=D > SO YOU HAVE A=C=1 AND B=D=5 AND A=C=B=D=4
INSUFFICIENT
B) SAY A=B=C=6 AND D=-6 WE HAVE A+B+C+D=12 AND ALSO A=B=C=D=4
SO INSUFFICIENT
BOTH A+B > A=B=C=D=4
SO ITS SUFFICIENT
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If \(a + b + c + d = 12\), what is the value of \(\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2}\) ?

(1) \(ab = cd = ad\)

(2) \(|a| = |b| = |c| = |d|\)


\(a + b + c + d = 12\) - Given Statement

Statement 1 only -
\(ab = cd = ad\)

\(b = d\)
\(a = c\)

\(2 * (a + b) = 12\)
\(a + b = 6\)

\(\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2} = \sqrt{2 * (a^2+b^2)}\)
If a = 1, b = 5
\(\sqrt{2 * (a^2+b^2)} = \sqrt{2 * (1 + 25)} = \sqrt{52}\)

If a = 2, b = 3
\(\sqrt{2 * (a^2+b^2)} = \sqrt{2 * (4 + 9)} = \sqrt{26}\)

Different answers. Hence, INSUFFICIENT

Statement 2 only -
\(|a| = |b| = |c| = |d|\)

From the given statement and Statement 2, we can infer that there can be 2 types of sets.

Set 1 -
{|a|, |a|, |a|, |a|} -> all +ve
\(4|a| = 12\). Therefore, \(a = 3\)

\(\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2}= \sqrt{4*9} = 6\)

Set 2 -
{|a|, |a|, |a|, -|a|} -> 3 +ve and 1 -ve
\(2|a| = 12\). Therefore, \(a = 6\)

\(\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2}= \sqrt{4*36} = 12\)

Different answers. Hence, INSUFFICIENT

1 & 2 Together -

Since a = c & b = d, Set 2 is not possible.
Only Set 1 is possible. Hence \(a = 3\) & \(\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2}= \sqrt{4*9} = 6\)

SUFFICIENT

Hence, the answer is C.
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(1) ab=cd=ad
a=c,b=d
a,b,c,d can be
1,5,1,5
2,4,2,4 etc
insufficient

(2) |a|=|b|=|c|=|d|
a,b,c,d can be
-6,6,6,6
3,3,3,3
insufficient

1+2

can be only 3,3,3,3
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If a+b+c+d=12, what is the value of √a2+b2+c2+d2?

(1) ab=cd=ad
(2) |a|=|b|=|c|=|d|


Using statement 1, we can conclude that a=c and b=d.
On solving (a+b+c+d)^2 = 12^2, and substituting the values ascertained using statement 1, we get that a+b=6 and c+d=6.

Hence, it is not sufficient.

Using statement 2, we get multiple cases,
for example, a, b, c and d all can be 3, or,
a, b, c can be 4 and d can be -4.

Hence, statement 2 alone isn't sufficient either.

On combining the two statements, we can be sure that a=b=c=d = 3.

Hence, both the statements taken together are sufficient. Option C
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If \(a + b + c + d = 12\), what is the value of \(\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2}\) ?

(1) \(ab = cd = ad\)

(2) \(|a| = |b| = |c| = |d|\)


 


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(1) \(ab = cd = ad\)
\(ab = ad\) => \(b=d\)
\(cd = ad\) =>\( c=a\)
2(a+b) = 12 => a+b=6
2(c+d) = 12 => c+d=6
(a,b,c,d) = (1,5,1,5) => \(\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2}=\sqrt{52}\)
(a,b,c,d) = (2,4,2,4) => \(\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2}=\sqrt{40}\)
Insufficient

(2) \(|a| = |b| = |c| = |d|\)
(a,b,c,d) = (6,6,6,-6) => \(\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2}=12\)
(a,b,c,d) = (3,3,3,3) => \(\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2}=6\)
Insufficient

Both
(a,b,c,d) = (3,3,3,3) => \(\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2}=6\)
Sufficient
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Given

a + b + c + d = 12

Ques : \(\sqrt{a^2 + b^2 + c^2 + d^2}\)

Statement 1

ab = cd

ab = ad
Inference
a(b-d) = 0
a = 0 -----------(1)
b = d -----------(1.1)

cd= ad
Inference
d(c-a) = 0
d = 0 -----------(2)
c = a -----------(2.1)

Assume a = d = 0

Case 1

c = b = 6

\(\sqrt{6^2 + 6^2 } = 6\sqrt{2} \)

Case 2

c = 11 ; b = 1

\(\sqrt{11^2 + 1^2 } = \sqrt{122} \)

We are getting two different values, hence eliminate A

Statement 2

|a| = |b| = |c| = |d|

Inference

The distance of a from 0 = The distance of b from 0 = The distance of c from 0 = The distance of d from 0

Case 1

a = b = c = d = 3

\(\sqrt{a^2 + b^2 + c^2 + d^2} = \sqrt{3^2 + 3^2 + 3^2 + 3^2} = \sqrt{36}\)

Case 2

a = -6
b = c = d = 6

\(\sqrt{a^2 + b^2 + c^2 + d^2} = \sqrt{6^2 + 6^2 + 6^2 + 6^2} = \sqrt{36*4}\)

As we are getting two different values, the answer is not sufficient.

Combining

We know that the distances have to be equal, also none of the values can now be 0. Hence all of them need to be same.

a = b = c = d = 3

Hence we can get a definite answer

IMO C
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If a+b+c+d=12, what is the value of √a2+b2+c2+d2 ?

(1) ab=cd=ad
by this if d=-ve
a,b,c also negative
and all will be equal
then a=b=c=d=-3 and ans will be 6
if d=+ve
a=b=c=d=+3
ans will be again 6

sufficient


(2) |a|=|b|=|c|=|d|

similarly this is also sufficient
oa =d
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If \(a + b + c + d = 12\), what is the value of \(\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2}\) ?

(1) \(ab = cd = ad\)

(2) \(|a| = |b| = |c| = |d|\)


 


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Statement 1: "\(ab = cd = ad\)"
Consider first case
a=b=c=d=3, thus a+b+c+d=12, \(ab = cd = ad\) ,and \(\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2}\) = 6
again
Consider another case
a=9, b=-3, c=9, d=-3; thus a+b+c+d=12, \(ab = cd = ad\) ,and \(\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2}\) =
\(\sqrt{180}\)
So 2 different values, INSUFFICIENT

Statement 2: "\(|a| = |b| = |c| = |d|\)"
Consider first case
a=b=c=d=3, thus a+b+c+d=12, \(|a| = |b| = |c| = |d|\), and \(\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2}\) = 6
Consider another case
a=b=c=6 and d=-6 thus a+b+c+d=12, \(|a| = |b| = |c| = |d|\), \(\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2}\) = 12
So 2 different values, INSUFFICIENT

Statements 1 & 2 combined:
"(1) \(ab = cd = ad\)
(2) \(|a| = |b| = |c| = |d|\)"

Testing cases we see to satisfy both conditions only possible values for a,b,c and d are as below:
a=b=c=d=3.
Thus a+b+c+d=12, \(|a| = |b| = |c| = |d|\), and \(\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2}\) = 6
Only One Value. Hence together SUFFICIENT

ANS: C
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Asked: If \(a + b + c + d = 12\), what is the value of \(\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2}\) ?

\(a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2 = (a + b + c + d)ˆ2 - 2(ab+ac+ad + bc+bd+cd)\)

(1) \(ab = cd = ad\)
\(ab = cd = ad = \sqrt{abcd}\)
\(ad = \sqrt{abcd}\)
aˆ2dˆ2 = abcd
ad = bc
ab = bc = cd = da
a = b = c = d = (a+b+c+d)/4 = 12/4 = 3
ab = ac = ad = bc = bd = cd = 3*3 = 9
\(a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2 = (a + b + c + d)ˆ2 - 2(ab+ac+ad+bc+bd+cd) = 12ˆ2 - 2*6*9= 144 - 108 = 36\)
\(\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2} = 6\)
SUFFICIENT

(2) \(|a| = |b| = |c| = |d|\)
Case 1: a=b =c=d = 3;
ab = bc = cd = da = 3*3=9
\(a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2 = (a + b + c + d)ˆ2 - 2(ab+ac+ad+bc+bd+cd) = 12ˆ2 - 2*6*9= 144 - 108 = 36\)
\(\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2} =6\)
Case2: a=b=c=4; d=-4
ab = bc = ca = 4*4 = 16; ad=bd=cd=-16
ab + ac + ad + bc + bd + cd = 16*3 - 16*3 = 0
\(a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2 = (a + b + c + d)ˆ2 - 2(ab+ac+ad+bc+bd+cd) = 12ˆ2 - 0 = 12ˆ2\)
\(\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2} =12\)
NOT SUFFICIENT

IMO A
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[quote="Bunuel"]If \(a + b + c + d = 12\), what is the value of \(\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2}\) ?

(1) \(ab = cd = ad\)

(2) \(|a| = |b| = |c| = |d|\)


1)ab=cd=ad
a+b+c+d=12.
If we consider a=3,b=3,c=3,d=3 then both the equations hold true and we can calculate the value of the expression given
Again if a=8,b=-2,c=8,d=-2 then also both the equations hold true. Thus we cannot calculate any unique value of the expression.
Thus 1 is insufficient and A,D are out.
2)|a|=|b|=|c|=|d|
If we consider a=3,b=3,c=3,d=3 then both the equations hold true and we can calculate the value of the expression given
Again if a=6,b=6,c=6,d=-6 then also both the equations hold true. Thus we cannot calculate any unique value of the expression.
thus B is out.
Combining 1 an 2 only a=3,b=3,c=3 and d=3 is the only possible solution
Thus C is the answer
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We don't know the value of BC for statement A

From statement B We just know that absolute value of A, B, C,D are equal but we don't know the value

Combining also we don't know the value
So answer is E
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Statement 1-

ab=cd=ad

Taking first and third terms,
ab=ad
ab-ad=0
a(b-d)=0

a=0 OR b=d

Taking second and third term,
cd=ad
cd-ad=0
d(c-a)=0

d=0 OR c=a

Not sufficient

Statement 2 -

|a| + |b| + |c| + |d| = 12

Let’s say all equal to |x|

4|x| = 12
|x| = 3

x=3 OR x= (-3)

Putting this value in original question stem,

-3 + (-3) + (-3) + (-3) = -12 —-> Not aligned with the information given to be true

Hence, x= 3

3 + 3 + 3 + 3 = 13

By then we can find out the value of the stated expression.

Hence, B is the correct answer
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1. We have no info about the individual values of a,b,c,d. Some variables could also be 0. NS
2. Since the modulus is the same and the sum is 12, the values for all mods must be 3, and root (9+9+9+9) will give us one definite value. Suff
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If \(a + b + c + d = 12\), what is the value of \(\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2}\) ?

(1) \(ab = cd = ad\)

(2) \(|a| = |b| = |c| = |d|\)


 


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Statement 1: \(ab = cd = ad\)
Case 1: \(a=b=c=d=3\) then we get answer \(\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2}\) = 6
Case 2: \(a=d=0\) & \(c=d=6\), then we get \(\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2}\) = 6\sqrt{2}
Not sufficient.

Statement 2: \(|a| = |b| = |c| = |d|\)
Case 1: Same as case 1 of statement 1.
Case 2: Any one of a,b,c and d can be -6 and rest three can be +6 then also we get the sum 12. In this case \(\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2}\) = 12
Not sufficient.

Combining 1 & 2, there is only 1 case possible which is \(a=b=c=d=3\), for which we get a definite answer as \(\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2}\) = 6
Answer C
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Given = a+b+c+d=12

Find √(a^2+ b^2 + c^2 + d^2)


Statement 1: ab=cd=ad

We can decipher : a = c, b = d

let a = c = 3 and b = d = 3

then : √(a^2+ b^2 + c^2 + d^2) = √36 = +6 or - 6

OR

let a = c = 2 and b = d = 4

then : √(a^2+ b^2 + c^2 + d^2) = √40


Statement A (Insufficient)

Statement 2: |a|=|b|=|c|=|d|

Here we can surely say: |a|=|b|=|c|=|d| = 3

But √(a^2+ b^2 + c^2 + d^2) = √36 = +6 or - 6


Statement B (Insufficient)


Even after combining both the statements we get both +6 and -6 as the values.


Hence OPTION E
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(1) \(ab = cd = ad\)

(2) \(|a| = |b| = |c| = |d|\)


 


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