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Just wanted to know how similar verbal in GMAT is to LSAT? I have taken a diagnostic test off the LSAC website, and have seen for the most part that most questions on LSAT are really similar to verbal section on GMAT such as strengthen/weaken questions, which of the following are most similar in reasoning, which of the following concludes this passage, etc etc

the RC is similar as well... a little more detailed/tougher reading than RC on GMAT but still somewhat similar, then there is the logic games and its not that similar to GMAT but when I did that section i did pretty good, was a little short on time though since some of the games confused me at times.

Let me know what you think about the similarity and mostly if I can use the RC books I had for the GMAT in order to help in the LSAT. thanks
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Just wanted to know how similar verbal in GMAT is to LSAT? I have taken a diagnostic test off the LSAC website, and have seen for the most part that most questions on LSAT are really similar to verbal section on GMAT such as strengthen/weaken questions, which of the following are most similar in reasoning, which of the following concludes this passage, etc etc

the RC is similar as well... a little more detailed/tougher reading than RC on GMAT but still somewhat similar, then there is the logic games and its not that similar to GMAT but when I did that section i did pretty good, was a little short on time though since some of the games confused me at times.

Let me know what you think about the similarity and mostly if I can use the RC books I had for the GMAT in order to help in the LSAT. thanks
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The GMAT CR and RC questions are very similar to the LSAT logical reasoning and reading comprehension questions. The format of the LSAT will be different than the GMAT verbal though.

1. Five 35 minute sections, and they will only have one question type. There are two graded sections of logical reasoning, and one graded section of reading comp and analytical reasoning (aka logic games). The fifth section is experimental, and could be any of the three types.
2. All logical reasoning sections will have 24-26 questions each.

On the GMAT there are 75 minutes to do 41 questions in the entire section, gives you an average of 109.75 seconds each question. For native English speakers, we often can finish this section in 50-60 minutes and still get a great score.

On the LSAT, you have 35 minutes to do 25 questions on average for each section, a little more than that for RC, a little less for games. But with 35 minutes to do 25 questions, you have an average of 84 seconds to do each question, which is nearly 25% less time on average. In addition, LSAT LR blurbs (their class instructors tend to say stimulus/stimuli) are also more complicated than the GMAT CR.

Also, there are different question types, most notably parallel reasoning, and more "everything is an assumption of the argument except" type questions. It is a harder exam on average.

LSAT LR (and RC and games) also requires that you understand sufficient vs. necessary conditions (If A then B ). If you don't have this down, you won't do well on the LSAT. The GMAT CR rarely if ever has questions that require your use and application of conditional reasoning.

3. LSAT Reading Comp, you have four passages and about 27 questions on average. Three passages are about 500 words each, and one passage is comparative reading, where you get two 200-250 word passages and compare those two in a set of questions. LSAT RC is nothing like GMAT RC in my opinion because the passages are longer and the material is denser because of the longer passage lengths.

4. The logic games also involve sufficient vs. necessary conditions and are a series of puzzles for you to figure out. No equivalent on the GMAT. You have four games and should get 22-24 questions of them.

If you're going to take the LSAT for October, you should use separate material to study for that exam. Unlike the GMAT, three LSAT's a year are released for the public to purchase and you should purchase them. You should definitely take every exam for the last three years (9 tests or so) to get a good feel of what the LSAT will be like if and when you take it in October/December. In addition, when you take the tests, you should also take an additional section as an experimental so you can take a full five sections (3 back to back to back, a 15 minute break, then the rest back to back) each time you take the exam. Also make use of an error log for the LSAT LR questions.

Hope this helps.