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# Disastrous GMAT score

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27 Sep 2018, 12:04
Hi all, I have been preparing for GMAT from last 5 months and when I took my first GMAT prep test it was 610 V24 Q48 and till yesterday my Mocks were varying from 690 to 720. I was confident to get a 710 atleast if not 720. I had targetted for 740 but settled at 720 as target score.

After this long preparation , I was only at 630 today with V28 and Q49. It was disastrous as I was just at home while preparations and was dilligent to complete my course materials. Test wasn't difficult and no glitch I could face but I still ended up at V28 and 630. Please guide me.

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27 Sep 2018, 12:20
Sorry to hear about the test-day letdown, mbamm19!

I'm not sure if this will help but maybe take a look at this article, and see if anything looks familiar at all?
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27 Sep 2018, 12:35
Sorry to hear that, I have faced a similar experience my mocks on MGMAT were 660-690 and one GMATprep (the only one I took back then) was 710. However on the actual test I scored 610 (50Q/24V) I’m sure if you look at your ESR it would provide you some guidance.

In my particular case and according to my ESR I really did awful on the verbal on the second quarter (if we treat them in 4 quarters) I know I had some issues in 2nd and 4th quarter.

I can share my ESR in this post or send it to you if it would help you understand how my experience went. The sad part for me is that on all my mocks my verbal was consistently above 34.

All the best!

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27 Sep 2018, 12:42
Salsanousi wrote:
Sorry to hear that, I have faced a similar experience my mocks on MGMAT were 660-690 and one GMATprep (the only one I took back then) was 710. However on the actual test I scored 610 (50Q/24V) I’m sure if you look at your ESR it would provide you some guidance.

In my particular case and according to my ESR I really did awful on the verbal on the second quarter (if we treat them in 4 quarters) I know I had some issues in 2nd and 4th quarter.

I can share my ESR in this post or send it to you if it would help you understand how my experience went. The sad part for me is that on all my mocks my verbal was consistently above 34.

All the best!

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Please share , may be it will help. And even I was consistent with my Verbal at 35-37 in mocks. but test day had a bad picture
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27 Sep 2018, 14:31
mbamm19 wrote:
Salsanousi wrote:
Sorry to hear that, I have faced a similar experience my mocks on MGMAT were 660-690 and one GMATprep (the only one I took back then) was 710. However on the actual test I scored 610 (50Q/24V) I’m sure if you look at your ESR it would provide you some guidance.

In my particular case and according to my ESR I really did awful on the verbal on the second quarter (if we treat them in 4 quarters) I know I had some issues in 2nd and 4th quarter.

I can share my ESR in this post or send it to you if it would help you understand how my experience went. The sad part for me is that on all my mocks my verbal was consistently above 34.

All the best!

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Please share , may be it will help. And even I was consistent with my Verbal at 35-37 in mocks. but test day had a bad picture

I have attached the ESR, hope it sheds light.
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27 Sep 2018, 19:49
Hi mbamm19,

I'm sorry to hear that Test Day didn't go as well as planned. When these types of score drops occur, the two likely "causes" involve either something that was unrealistic during practice or something that was surprising (or not accounted for) on Test Day. If you can answer a few questions, then we should be able to figure this out:

1) On what date did you take each CAT and how did you score on EACH (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for EACH)?
2) Did you take the ENTIRE CAT each time (including the Essay and IR sections)?
3) Did you take them at home?
4) Did you take them at the same time of day as when you took your Official GMAT?
5) Did you ever do ANYTHING during your CATs that you couldn't do on Test Day (pause the CAT, skip sections, take longer breaks, etc.)?
6) Did you ever take a CAT more than once? Had you seen any of the questions BEFORE (re: on a prior CAT, in an online forum or in a practice set)?

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Updated on: 01 Oct 2018, 01:06
Hi mbamm19,

• Rohan improved from 610 (Q46 V25) to 750 (Q50 V40). Click here to watch his very inspiring video interview.
• Jaqueline, mother of a 6-month old, improved her score from 640 (Q45 V32) to 720 (Q49 V40). Click here to watch her very inspiring video interview.

If you need any further guidance, please feel free to write to us at support@e-gmat.com.

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28 Sep 2018, 18:06
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03 Oct 2018, 17:19
Hi mbamm19,

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17 Jan 2019, 08:58
ScottTargetTestPrep wrote:
Hi mbamm19,

ScottTargetTestPrep wrote:
Hi mbamm19,

I am sorry for replying so late. I was out for some personal issues, now I have decided to retake my GMAT within 1 month.

Now , some questions i shall answer.

1) I had taken full test at almost same time at home , give or take 15-30 mins.
2)I had not done IR and essay every time, but even in my GMAT exam, my IR and essay section was last.
3) i have not done or experiences anything unusual in my real test than my home tests.

I am.pretty sure my verbal was not upto mark. I had taken egmat course but i lagged somewhere.

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17 Jan 2019, 20:27
Hi mbamm19,

Since it's been over 3.5 months since your original post, it would help to know how you've been studying during that time.

1) What study routine have you been following since you took the Official GMAT? Did you take any 'time off'?
2) What study materials have you used over the course of ALL of your studies?
3) How have you scored on EACH of your CATs/mocks since you took the GMAT (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for EACH)?

You might also choose to purchase the Enhanced Score Report. While the ESR doesn't provide a lot of information, there are usually a few data points that we can use to define what went wrong (and what you should work on to score higher). If you purchase the ESR, then I'll be happy to analyze it for you.

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19 Jan 2019, 07:17
Hi mbamm19,

Thank you for reaching back out. So, clearly your verbal score is holding you back from hitting your GMAT score goal, right? Despite scoring as high as 720 on your practice exams, since you scored a V28 on the actual test, it’s clear that you have numerous verbal weaknesses that were exposed on test day. Your score drop likely was because in your preparation, you did not really learn to do what you have to do in order to score high on verbal. Rather, you picked up on some patterns that were effective in getting you relatively high scores on practice tests.

To hit your verbal score goal, you probably have to adjust the way that you have been preparing. You have to focus your preparation on developing skills, such as use of logic, that you can use to correctly answer GMAT verbal questions regardless of what verbal tricks the test presents to you. In order to develop those skills, you may need to slow way down in your verbal preparation, and analyze questions and answer choices until you clearly see the logic of questions. In other words, your preparation has to be deeper and has to result in your much more clearly seeing what is going on in verbal questions.

Say you begin studying Critical Reasoning. First, you need to ensure that you fully understand the essence of the various question types. Do you know the importance of an assumption within an argument? Can you easily spot a conclusion? Do you know how to resolve a paradox? Do you know how to properly evaluate cause and effect? Do you know how to properly weaken or strengthen an argument? These are just a few examples; you really need to take a deep dive into the individual Critical Reasoning topics such that you develop the necessary skills to properly attack any Critical Reasoning questions that you encounter.

As you learn each Critical Reasoning problem type, do focused practice so that you can track your skill in answering each type. If, for example, you incorrectly answered a Weaken the Argument question, ask yourself why. Did you make a careless mistake? Did you not recognize the specific question type? Were you doing too much analysis in your head? Did you skip over a keyword in an answer choice? You must thoroughly analyze your mistakes and seek to turn weaknesses into strengths by focusing on the question types you dread seeing and the questions you take a long time to answer correctly.

Sentence Correction is a bit of a different animal compared to Reading Comprehension and Critical Reasoning. There are three aspects to getting correct answers to GMAT Sentence Correction questions: what you know, such as grammar rules, what you see, such as violations of grammar rules and the logic of sentence structure, and what you do, such as carefully considering each answer choice in the context of the non-underlined portion of the sentence. To drive up your Sentence Correction score, you likely will have to work on all three of those aspects. Furthermore, the likely reason that your Sentence Correction performance has not improved is that you have not been working on all three of those aspects.

Regarding what you know, tfirst and foremost, you MUST know your grammar rules. Let's be clear, though: GMAT Sentence Correction is not just a test of knowledge of grammar rules. The reason for learning grammar rules is so that you can determine what sentences convey and whether sentences are well-constructed. In fact, in many cases, incorrect answers to Sentence Correction questions are grammatically flawless. Thus, often your task is to use your knowledge of grammar rules to determine which answer choice creates the most logical sentence meaning and structure.

This determination of whether sentences are well-constructed and logical is the second aspect of finding correct answers to Sentence Correction questions, what you see. To develop this skill, you probably have to slow way down. You won't develop this skill by spending under two minutes per question. For a while, anyway, you have to spend time with each question, maybe even ten or fifteen minutes on one question sometimes, analyzing every answer choice until you see the details that you have to see in order to choose the correct answer. As you go through the answer choices, consider the meaning conveyed by each version of the sentence. Does the meaning make sense? Even if you can tell what the version is SUPPOSED to convey, does the version really convey that meaning? Is there a verb to go with the subject? Do all pronouns clearly refer to nouns? By slowing way down and looking for these details, you learn to see what you have to see in order to clearly understand which answer to a Sentence Correction question is correct.

There is only one correct answer to any Sentence Correction question, there are clear reasons why that choice is correct and the others are not, and those reasons are not that the correct version simply "sounds right." In fact, the correct version often sounds a little off at first. That correct answers may sound a little off is not surprising. If the correct answer were always the one that sounded right, then most people most of the time would get Sentence Correction questions correct, without really knowing why the wrong answers were wrong and the correct answers were correct. So, you have to go beyond choosing what "sounds right" and learn to clearly see the logical reasons why one choice is better than all of the others.

As for the third aspect of getting Sentence Correction questions correct, what you do, the main thing that you have to do is be very careful. You have to make sure that you are truly considering the structures of sentences and the meanings conveyed rather than allowing yourself to be tricked into choosing trap answers that sound right but don't convey meanings that make sense. You also have to make sure that you put some real energy into finding the correct answers. Finding the correct answer to a Sentence Correction question may take bouncing from choice to choice repeatedly until you start to see the differences between the choices that make all choices wrong except for one. Often, when you first look at the choices, only one or two seem obviously incorrect. Getting the right answers takes a certain work ethic. You have to be determined to see the differences and to figure out the precise reasons that one choice is correct.

To improve what you do when you answer Sentence Correction questions, seek to become aware of how you are going about answering them. Are you being careful and looking for logic and details, or are you quickly eliminating choices that sound a little off and then choosing the best of the rest? If you choose an incorrect answer, consider what you did that resulted in your arriving at that answer and what you could do differently in order to arrive at correct answers more consistently. Furthermore, see how many questions you can get correct in a row as you practice. If you break your streak by missing one, consider what you could have done differently to extend your streak.

As with your Critical Reasoning and Reading Comprehension regimens, after learning a particular Sentence Correction topic, engage in focused practice with 30 questions or more that involve that topic. As your skills improve, you’ll then want to practice with questions that test you on skills from multiple SC topics.

Although your quant is stronger, you can follow a similar process for that section. For example, if you are reviewing Number Properties, be sure that you practice 50 or more questions just from Number Properties: LCM, GCF, units digit patterns, divisibility, remainders, etc. When you are working on learning to answer questions of a particular type, start off taking your time, and then seek to speed up as you get more comfortable answering questions of that type. As you do such practice, do a thorough analysis of each question that you don't get right. If you got a remainder question wrong, ask yourself why. Did you make a careless mistake? Did you not properly apply the remainder formula? Was there a concept you did not understand in the question? By carefully analyzing your mistakes, you will be able to efficiently fix your weaknesses and in turn improve your GMAT quant skills. Number Properties is just one example; follow this process for all quant topics.

So, work on accuracy and generally finding correct answers, work on specific weaker areas one by one to make them strong areas, and when you take a practice GMAT or the real thing, take all the time per question available to do your absolute best to get right answers consistently. The GMAT is essentially a game of seeing how many right answers you can get in the time allotted. Approach the test with that conception in mind, and focus intently on the question in front of you with one goal in mind: getting a CORRECT answer.

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Feel free to reach out with any further questions.

Good luck!
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15 Feb 2019, 02:30
EMPOWERgmatRichC wrote:
Hi mbamm19,

Since it's been over 3.5 months since your original post, it would help to know how you've been studying during that time.

1) What study routine have you been following since you took the Official GMAT? Did you take any 'time off'?
2) What study materials have you used over the course of ALL of your studies?
3) How have you scored on EACH of your CATs/mocks since you took the GMAT (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for EACH)?

You might also choose to purchase the Enhanced Score Report. While the ESR doesn't provide a lot of information, there are usually a few data points that we can use to define what went wrong (and what you should work on to score higher). If you purchase the ESR, then I'll be happy to analyze it for you.

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
I apologize for yet again delayed reply. So frankly , i haven't done any re-preparation yet post my GMAT. But I am again gearing up for it.

1) I was on total time off and building my profile.
2) I used OG, GMAtclub materials available on forums and egmat verbal and scholarium
3) No mocks plus my course expires when i had last posted this. Need to look for free mocks. Suggestion and directions required.

I am sure ESR helps a lot but its costly for me. As i was pointed out, my biggest trouble is Verbal where CR is what i am worst at.
RC is next and SC is better than both.

Though by end of my exam i scored good in all three but it was not what i has expected

Guide me .

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15 Feb 2019, 02:32
ScottTargetTestPrep wrote:
Hi mbamm19,

Thank you for reaching back out. So, clearly your verbal score is holding you back from hitting your GMAT score goal, right? Despite scoring as high as 720 on your practice exams, since you scored a V28 on the actual test, it’s clear that you have numerous verbal weaknesses that were exposed on test day. Your score drop likely was because in your preparation, you did not really learn to do what you have to do in order to score high on verbal. Rather, you picked up on some patterns that were effective in getting you relatively high scores on practice tests.

To hit your verbal score goal, you probably have to adjust the way that you have been preparing. You have to focus your preparation on developing skills, such as use of logic, that you can use to correctly answer GMAT verbal questions regardless of what verbal tricks the test presents to you. In order to develop those skills, you may need to slow way down in your verbal preparation, and analyze questions and answer choices until you clearly see the logic of questions. In other words, your preparation has to be deeper and has to result in your much more clearly seeing what is going on in verbal questions.

Say you begin studying Critical Reasoning. First, you need to ensure that you fully understand the essence of the various question types. Do you know the importance of an assumption within an argument? Can you easily spot a conclusion? Do you know how to resolve a paradox? Do you know how to properly evaluate cause and effect? Do you know how to properly weaken or strengthen an argument? These are just a few examples; you really need to take a deep dive into the individual Critical Reasoning topics such that you develop the necessary skills to properly attack any Critical Reasoning questions that you encounter.

As you learn each Critical Reasoning problem type, do focused practice so that you can track your skill in answering each type. If, for example, you incorrectly answered a Weaken the Argument question, ask yourself why. Did you make a careless mistake? Did you not recognize the specific question type? Were you doing too much analysis in your head? Did you skip over a keyword in an answer choice? You must thoroughly analyze your mistakes and seek to turn weaknesses into strengths by focusing on the question types you dread seeing and the questions you take a long time to answer correctly.

Sentence Correction is a bit of a different animal compared to Reading Comprehension and Critical Reasoning. There are three aspects to getting correct answers to GMAT Sentence Correction questions: what you know, such as grammar rules, what you see, such as violations of grammar rules and the logic of sentence structure, and what you do, such as carefully considering each answer choice in the context of the non-underlined portion of the sentence. To drive up your Sentence Correction score, you likely will have to work on all three of those aspects. Furthermore, the likely reason that your Sentence Correction performance has not improved is that you have not been working on all three of those aspects.

Regarding what you know, tfirst and foremost, you MUST know your grammar rules. Let's be clear, though: GMAT Sentence Correction is not just a test of knowledge of grammar rules. The reason for learning grammar rules is so that you can determine what sentences convey and whether sentences are well-constructed. In fact, in many cases, incorrect answers to Sentence Correction questions are grammatically flawless. Thus, often your task is to use your knowledge of grammar rules to determine which answer choice creates the most logical sentence meaning and structure.

This determination of whether sentences are well-constructed and logical is the second aspect of finding correct answers to Sentence Correction questions, what you see. To develop this skill, you probably have to slow way down. You won't develop this skill by spending under two minutes per question. For a while, anyway, you have to spend time with each question, maybe even ten or fifteen minutes on one question sometimes, analyzing every answer choice until you see the details that you have to see in order to choose the correct answer. As you go through the answer choices, consider the meaning conveyed by each version of the sentence. Does the meaning make sense? Even if you can tell what the version is SUPPOSED to convey, does the version really convey that meaning? Is there a verb to go with the subject? Do all pronouns clearly refer to nouns? By slowing way down and looking for these details, you learn to see what you have to see in order to clearly understand which answer to a Sentence Correction question is correct.

There is only one correct answer to any Sentence Correction question, there are clear reasons why that choice is correct and the others are not, and those reasons are not that the correct version simply "sounds right." In fact, the correct version often sounds a little off at first. That correct answers may sound a little off is not surprising. If the correct answer were always the one that sounded right, then most people most of the time would get Sentence Correction questions correct, without really knowing why the wrong answers were wrong and the correct answers were correct. So, you have to go beyond choosing what "sounds right" and learn to clearly see the logical reasons why one choice is better than all of the others.

As for the third aspect of getting Sentence Correction questions correct, what you do, the main thing that you have to do is be very careful. You have to make sure that you are truly considering the structures of sentences and the meanings conveyed rather than allowing yourself to be tricked into choosing trap answers that sound right but don't convey meanings that make sense. You also have to make sure that you put some real energy into finding the correct answers. Finding the correct answer to a Sentence Correction question may take bouncing from choice to choice repeatedly until you start to see the differences between the choices that make all choices wrong except for one. Often, when you first look at the choices, only one or two seem obviously incorrect. Getting the right answers takes a certain work ethic. You have to be determined to see the differences and to figure out the precise reasons that one choice is correct.

To improve what you do when you answer Sentence Correction questions, seek to become aware of how you are going about answering them. Are you being careful and looking for logic and details, or are you quickly eliminating choices that sound a little off and then choosing the best of the rest? If you choose an incorrect answer, consider what you did that resulted in your arriving at that answer and what you could do differently in order to arrive at correct answers more consistently. Furthermore, see how many questions you can get correct in a row as you practice. If you break your streak by missing one, consider what you could have done differently to extend your streak.

As with your Critical Reasoning and Reading Comprehension regimens, after learning a particular Sentence Correction topic, engage in focused practice with 30 questions or more that involve that topic. As your skills improve, you’ll then want to practice with questions that test you on skills from multiple SC topics.

Although your quant is stronger, you can follow a similar process for that section. For example, if you are reviewing Number Properties, be sure that you practice 50 or more questions just from Number Properties: LCM, GCF, units digit patterns, divisibility, remainders, etc. When you are working on learning to answer questions of a particular type, start off taking your time, and then seek to speed up as you get more comfortable answering questions of that type. As you do such practice, do a thorough analysis of each question that you don't get right. If you got a remainder question wrong, ask yourself why. Did you make a careless mistake? Did you not properly apply the remainder formula? Was there a concept you did not understand in the question? By carefully analyzing your mistakes, you will be able to efficiently fix your weaknesses and in turn improve your GMAT quant skills. Number Properties is just one example; follow this process for all quant topics.

So, work on accuracy and generally finding correct answers, work on specific weaker areas one by one to make them strong areas, and when you take a practice GMAT or the real thing, take all the time per question available to do your absolute best to get right answers consistently. The GMAT is essentially a game of seeing how many right answers you can get in the time allotted. Approach the test with that conception in mind, and focus intently on the question in front of you with one goal in mind: getting a CORRECT answer.

how to score a 700+ on the GMAT helpful.

Feel free to reach out with any further questions.

Good luck!
Thanks a lot Scott for such detailed response. You correctly mentioned that i might have got the pattern which made me score good in mocks but in real time i failed . will take care and reach out to you for more guidance.

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