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Fernando purchased a university meal plan that allows him to have a total of 3 lunches and 3 dinners per week. If the cafeteria is closed on weekends and Fernando always goes home for a dinner on Friday nights, how many options does he have to allocate his meals?

Sorry I dont have the answer choices, but the correct answer is
5C3 × 4C3
this problem is from veritas probability book.

Sat ... sun .. mon... tue ...wed...thur...fri
off......off.......L+D... L+D ..L+D...L+D... L

3 L and 3 D available.

5 lunches with 3 lunch packs and 4 dinners with 3 dinner packs = 5C3 × 4C3 = 40
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Option only for 3 Lunch and 3 Dinner from below

MO TU WE TH FR
L L L L L
D D D D D

5C3 * 4C3
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total possible ways
5c3 for lunches and 4c3 for dinners
5c3*4c3 = 10*4 ; 40
IMO C

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Fernando purchased a university meal plan that allows him to have a total of 3 lunches and 3 dinners per week. If the cafeteria is closed on weekends and Fernando always goes home for a dinner on Friday nights, how many options does he have to allocate his meals?

(A) 20

(B) 24

(C) 40

(D) 100

(E) 120

5C3 × 4C3
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Can you please explain how 5C3*4C3= 40?

My solution:

5C3= 5*4*3*2*1 / 3*2*1 = 20 and(Mulitply) by 4C3= 4*3*2*1 / 3*2*1 = 4


Thus: 20 * 4 = 80.

Thanks in advance!
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Bunuel

Can you please explain how 5C3*4C3= 40?

My solution:

5C3= 5*4*3*2*1 / 3*2*1 = 20 and(Mulitply) by 4C3= 4*3*2*1 / 3*2*1 = 4


Thus: 20 * 4 = 80.

Thanks in advance!
­5C3 = 5!/(3!2!) = 10, not 20.
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Can you please explain how 5C3*4C3= 40?

My solution:

5C3= 5*4*3*2*1 / 3*2*1 = 20 and(Mulitply) by 4C3= 4*3*2*1 / 3*2*1 = 4


Thus: 20 * 4 = 80.

Thanks in advance!
­5C3 = 5!/(3!2!) = 10, not 20.
­Of course it is 10.  Silly me again!

I was so frustrated why it was 10 and not 20. I think a need a cup of coffee!

Thank you very much for your quick response, and you are a HERO!
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can someone explain why 9c6 doesnt work here? 9 total meals (5 Lunches + 4 dinners) and we have to choose 6.
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can someone explain why 9c6 doesnt work here? 9 total meals (5 Lunches + 4 dinners) and we have to choose 6.

9C6 counts every way to choose 6 meal slots from the 9 available slots. However, it also includes invalid selections, such as 4 lunches and 2 dinners or 5 lunches and 1 dinner.

Fernando must choose exactly 3 of the 5 lunch slots and exactly 3 of the 4 dinner slots, so the choices must be counted separately:

5C3 * 4C3.
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Hi architkap,

Good instinct to look for a one-shot count, but here's the snag: lunches and dinners aren't interchangeable slots, so they can't go into one pool.

Look back at Argha's and Bunuel's setup: the plan forces exactly 3 lunchesandexactly 3 dinners. When you do 9C6, you're just grabbing any 6 of the 9 slots - with no rule that 3 of them must be lunches and 3 must be dinners.

That's the constraint your method quietly drops. For example, 9C6 happily counts a pick like 5 lunches + 1 dinner, or 2 lunches + 4 dinners. Neither is a legal meal plan, but they're all inside your 9C6 count. So you'd be over-counting with a bunch of invalid combos.

The fix is to keep the two choices separate, because they're independent:

- Lunches: choose 3 of the 5 weekdays - 5C3 = 10
- Dinners: choose 3 of the 4 allowed days (no Friday) - 4C3 = 4
- Multiply, since the two are independent - 10 × 4 = 40

Quick way to feel the difference: shrink it down. Say you must pick 1 fruit and 1 drink from {apple, banana} and {tea, coffee}. The right count is 2 × 2 = 4 valid meals. But if you dumped all 4 items in one bag and did 4C2 = 6, you'd also count "apple + banana" and "tea + coffee" - picks that break the 'one of each' rule. That's exactly what 9C6 does to your meal plan.

Whenever a problem fixes how many from each separate group, count each group on its own and multiply - don't merge them into one pool.

Answer: C

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can someone explain why 9c6 doesnt work here? 9 total meals (5 Lunches + 4 dinners) and we have to choose 6.
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