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These are the details of Tucks 2011 - 2012 loan program for internationals. Fingers crossed that they don't mind me posting this. Also, the loan program seems to be independent from scholarships, I was awarded a reasonable scholarship and I was still allowed to take the maximum amount out in loans.

• Individual maximum amount varies and is determined by Tuck’s Financial Aid office by performing needs analysis
• Finance up to the cost of tuition and mandatory fees (not to exceed $57,000 annually)
• Apply once and secure financing for your entire graduate studies with a unique Line of Credit structure
• Zero origination or pre-payment fees
• Variable interest rate based on Prime Rate plus 4.00% for student only
• 0.50% interest rate discount for borrowers with an approved U.S. co-signer
• Co-signer not required
• Interest is added to principal upon entering repayment
• Flexible repayment options, including full deferment of payments while in school
• 20 or 25 year repayment period, depending on loan balance – or repay early at any time with no penalty
• 6 month grace period prior to entering repayment
• 0.25% rate discount for automatic electronic payment during repayment
• Optional graduated repayment which provides lower payments during the first two years of repayment
• 24/7 Call Center and Online Application
• Loan is granted and held by your not-for-profit credit union – a lender relationship you can trust

Tuck will determine the maximum line of credit amount the student may be eligible to borrow. This is determined by a needs analysis based on a variety of factors, including cost of the program, their ability to contribute, debt levels consistent with successful repayment, and availability of funds. The school reserves the right to limit or decline educational loans or lines of credit on the basis of a student’s overall debt burden, credit history, or other relevant factors.

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Hello everyone,

I am really glad I found this thread, it is really important and the whole financial aid matter is not explored enough on this forum as much as it is for domestic US students.

Like many international students here, I will not apply to any school I could see myself in because of the financing options. For example, there is no reason for me to apply to Wharton if my country in western Balkans is sanctioned by OFAC on Quorum loans offered by Wharton. The only way for me to finance my MBA is through private loans and scholarship while the personal assets will be just a humble contribution. And if I cannot get aid from the schools, potential admission would not matter to me if I could not attend.

After my research I see it is doable to get these loans but not at all schools. For example, at Duke/MIT you can fully finance your MBA through loans while Columbia does not offer them to international students. I think the key before applying to any school in the USA is knowing your limits (or limits of the school). You simply cannot think the same way Americans do about attending, say, Columbia unless you come from a very wealthy family or country (wealthy countries have better financial markets and better options of getting those loans).

My goal is to find a dream school out of those that offer loans and there is nothing wrong with that. To help some people out, I created a small table about financing options at 14 schools in the US. Some of these schools are of interest to me, some of them I looked into just for my curiosity. The file is attached to this post, you will be able to see the price of the first year, availability of loans, specialization of some schools (not fully researched), and scholarship range I looked from Aringo MBA admission consulting website.

My question for you people is this: I know that if I got into Duke I would be able to get loans for the cost of attendance. Naturally, I would prefer to get a scholarship first and to cover the rest in loans. But, is it realistic to hope for a person (not just me and my profile) to get both scholarship and loans, or it is 1) full loans or 2)partial scholarship while I cover the rest?

p.s. let's keep this topic alive!

EDIT: So a person PMed me with various questions regarding the spreadsheet I created. I realized it is not comprehensible for most people (I do not blame them), so I am editing this post by posting my reply to the person who has sent me his questions. I hope it clarifies things a little more for all of you.

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First of all, I guess I needed to provide more clarification in that post. I made the spreadsheet more for myself than for other people but I decided to share it. However, I will gladly provide you with the necessary info.

-The colors mean the following: Green means "you can go for it since you can get fully financed without any scholarship", orange means "it is doable but you will need at least some kind of scholarship because there are certain limits to how much you can borrow" while red means "you cannot finance it since you either need a US co-signor or there are other limitations."

-As I mentioned, scholarship range I got is from Aringo MBA consulting website. That means if you get admitted your scholarship could also be significantly higher or lower. It is more of a yardstick, not a definitive scenario. Moreover, it kind of makes sense for Sloan to offer lower scholarships than most schools (although that may not be actually the case), since they guarantee financing to every student in full amount of cost of attendance (COA).

-As far as Kellog is concerned, I do not remember things all that well since I am not all that interested in applying. But I do believe that my info is correct. You should check it on their website. If it is your target school, contact the financial aid office. They could have changed financing options since 2010, such things happen especially in this kind of economy.

-Tuck, YSOM (and I think Johnson was the same scenario). It means that you can borrow up to a full tuition but not total cost of attendance (room, board and fees). Thus, if you received, say, $30K scholarship from those schools it would apply towards tuition cost only. You still have to pay for other costs from your own pocket. Do you see what I mean?

-Anderson is same as three schools above except that you can, to my understanding, receive scholarship for room&board and fees and then apply loans towards tuition. And yes, they do provide loans without co-signor, but not in the full amount of COA.

-"$$$ = Scholarship for room/board to cover the difference" means that you cannot receive scholarship for room/board, only tuition (I kind of said it already). It is just an explanation, like an asterix

-and those four schools I mentioned are my schools I will be looking at. That's all.

-"/" in the scholarship column means that I could not get any info.

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I'm not sure exactly how it will work for international students but you should check out CommonBond.co and SoFi.com. They are both companies that specialize giving and refinancing loans for MBA's.

Also, try to get the loans in your home country, sometimes that works better. Where i'm from you can apply to a "loan-scholarship" which is a government program that encourages study abroad so they will give you the loan interest free as long as you return to the country.

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A couple of questions for loans:

I noticed that for most of the top US schools, Prodigy funds up to 80% of the cost of attendance, which is similar to other programs offered by the schools. Can I borrow (assuming I'm approved), 80% from Prodigy and 20% from another loan program?

Similarly, are there loan options for people with US based co-signers that will cover the full cost of attendance?
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Does anyone have experience with Discover Student Loans? They require a co-signer but you can get up to 100% of the cost of attendance loaned. However, this page: https://www.discover.com/student-loans/ ... ional.html says:

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You may need to send us a copy of your passport and one of the following documents for loan approval. We will notify you when we need them during the application process.
F-1 Visa
H1-B Visa
J-1 Visa
L-1 (L1A or L1B) Visa
Form DS-2019
Form I-20
Form I-766
Form I-797


Given that I'll need to show capability to pay for the costs of the MBA when I apply for a student visa, how likely is it for Discover to require those docs (they mention that they MAY require but not WILL require). If they do require those docs, it's a chicken and egg situation where I can't get Discover approval without a visa and I can't get a visa without loan approval.

I've emailed them a couple of times but I just get robo responses and no clear answer



This will be something that will fall on the shoulders of your co-signer to break through to try to convince them to approve or at least pre-approve the loan.
This issue has existed for as long as I can remember and I am surprised it has not been resolved yet. However, if you have a US co-signer you have a good availability of options to apply for. You can also check SoFi, M7 Financial, and Prodigy Finance to compare quotes options and amount of headache (which may end up the deciding factor)
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Many internationals at Columbia are also having tough time because they don't offer
no-cosigner loan anymore. I had to struggle to find someone to cosign and I applied to Citibank and got a 1yr loan approved for 95000$ which is the amount in my I-20 for 1year expenses including tuition. Interest rate is 9.15% and a loan fee of 3%. All in all, a rip off. But then, I got no choice.

Many other schools, in fact all schools I believe in top 10 offers no cosigner loans and some schools like Darden also offers nocosigner loan, a friend is getting 7% interest rate from Darden. Oh well.

(In order to get my I-20 I requested my cosigner to give me a letter of sponsorship saying I will be funded by this person- of course this was just namesake just get I-20 as I was anyways going to apply for the loan. So may be you could do that too)
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Hi all, a bit late for this post but did any body figure out a generic option for covering cost of education in US MBA's for Indian/Chinese students? Apart from Kellogg/Wharton/Booth/HBS which have their own programs, is there any other institution in the US which covers our loans?

I heard somebody above got Citibank for the first year at an exorbitant interest rate, which is what I may be forced to do in the end as I'm Indian, but otherwise what else? What about 2nd year?
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Hi there,

Here is my situation (quite complicated) and I would like your help, advice, tips, comments.
I am Portuguese. I am currently living and working in Canada (Montreal). I came here to do my undergraduate and got a job in Finance just after (very recent).

I have been accepted at MIT Sloan MBA program but I do not know how to pay for not only the tuitions fees but also the live expenses of Boston.

Here is a quick summary of my situation:
- My Family is very very poor, so not an option at all
- I have few thousands of dollars (canadian) in my account but nothing too fency
- The Portuguese Banks (due mostly to the economic conditions) are not able to help me (No banks is financing abroad studies)
- I am not a permanent resident in Canada (work permit)
- I have no co-signer for the loan application
- I do not have historical credit (Cultural habits), I always pay cash (just a credit card)
- Not sure that my employer is willing to pay for such a cost

Should I reconsider going to a MBA (by the way it has always been my dream and it is my number goal).

Do you know other ways? how can I get a student loan in Canada or the US ?

am I screwed ?

Thank you for your time and consideration,


No buddy you're not screwed at all. There are companies who offer loans to international students. Have you heard of Prodigy finance? Its just one of those companies. Secondly I believe MIT Federal Credit Union provides loan assistance up to $170,000 for students enrolling at MIT Sloan program without the need for a co-borrower.

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I would recommend you guys apply ONLY to schools, for which you can get financing. period.
Alena85 and others please DO your own due diligence or research regarding whether a particular school offers financing with or without co-signor before applying. It will take you one hour to check the financing requirements for about 10 school, you may post your research here.
Believe me, IT WILL TAKE YOU MUCH MORE TIME and effort to prepare a strong application, prepare for interview, etc than do a 5 minute check of school's financing requirements.
You may end up with admit letter from your top choice school and you will cry be very frustrated because you can not accept it due to financing restrictions.
Several years ago I was accepted to a top-10 US MBA program and since that school canceled its non-cosignor program few weeks after application deadline, I was screwed and forced to reject the admissions offer. This applicatoin season I did ont apply to schools, which do not offer loans without US co-signor.
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Hello guys.

I would like to share my experience with Prodigy.
I was accepted in UNC Kenan-Flagler this year. Since then I started looking for ways to finance my MBA.

I knew that the school loan for international students at UNC covered ~75% of the tuition costs.
Therefore, I decided to apply for the Prodigy's loan just after being accepted at UNC. I got the approval for the other 30% and also for the living expenses!!

You do have to apply for each year, but when you got your first year approval they also pre-approve your second year (if it is the case). So, there is no gamble here.
Considering the exchange rate of Brazilian Reais, I decided to take the full amount that prodigy allowed

The rates are very competitive.
Without Prodigy I would not be able to finance my studies, they were crucial in my decision to attend the MBA.
I encourage you guys to check their website and learn more about. They also have an awesome customer service!!!
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Hi. I am looking to understand that for an Indian student applying to US B schools, will it be better to get loan from Indian lenders like SBI or from US lenders like Prodigy. Especially when collateral might not be a problem
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Thanks for your input, unplugged - it's much appreciated. Wish I knew this about Cornell ahead of time, but I guess I didn't do my homework and have no one to blame but myself. It's good to know though that there are schools like Kellogg out there. Best of luck and congrats on your admit again!
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Nice initiative. +1
Financial and Visa are the two most daunting issues for international students. It was really nice to hear about Kellogg.
I would request all - including Non -internationals, to share their experiencse regarding financial issues they have faced.
Moreover its equally important to know about the post-MBA prediction for repaying the Loans.

Please shed some light.
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gurpreetsingh, very glad you're finding this discussion useful.

Praz, I feel your pain. The loan does sound like a rip, but sometimes we don't exactly have a choice, I know. I had no idea that Columbia didn't offer no co-signer loans, so this is a great heads up for future applicants, even though they might secure one next year.

Glad that you got everything sorted out though, I know how stressful this whole experience can get.
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I want to go to Carnegie Mellon. While a good GMAT score is essential for getting a scholarship, I would like to know the chances of getting the scholarship. I am looking to enroll in Heinz School of Management, for my Masters in IT field.

Anyone with any experience?

I guess I have seen only one person from CMU here, he got admitted to Tepper School of Business I believe.
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Grateful for this wonderful thread. From third party sources I know Chicago and haas offer non- Cosignor loans and so does Ross.
Ariel - that you cannot use school loan to get I-20 is simply incomprehensible. Are you sure you don't want to escalate this to someone in admissions and recheck?

You may want to look at Global Student Loan corporation for loan based on a co-signor in your home country.

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